HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[le_sean]

If Player A is considered to be a 4.5 star talent with a 4 star physical profile and Player B is considered to be a 4 star talent with a 4.5 star physical build, do you think in 2024 the Habs ought to prefer Player B?

The only thing I want is for the Habs to evaluate talent better than you.

 

[Ozmodiar]

And TBay won nothing for years w those small players until Brisebois came in and added size & grit to the lineup - Paul, Goodrow, Hagel, Schenn, Maroon etc

This hammers home the point that they can always add size to the bottom 6 to complement the talent in the top 6 (if the latter is undersized).

At 5OA, we’re not talking about players like Paul, Goodrow, Hagel, Schenn, Maroon.

 

[Scintillating10]

Yeah that's why we need more guys like Anderson, not that bum in your profile picture

Gives you big advantage in playoffs. Skill and size combined you need. Anderson was good year we went to finals but has took many injuries. Career could be done. Leafs say he was giving their defensemen fits in their own end. He was affective year Colombus upset Tampa.

 

[Vachon23]

Pronman's latest mock:

1. Celebrini
2. Levshunov
3. Silayev
4. Lindstrom
5. Demidov

We get Julius Miettinen with our WPG 1st.

Would prefer someone else then Miettinen though

 

[Gravity]

This hammers home the point that they can always add size to the bottom 6 to complement the talent in the top 6 (if the latter is undersized).

At 5OA, we’re not talking about players like Paul, Goodrow, Hagel, Schenn, Maroon.

Yup talent above everything given where we are now. It'd be Demidov then Catton for me.

 

[ReHabs]

This hammers home the point that they can always add size to the bottom 6 to complement the talent in the top 6 (if the latter is undersized).

At 5OA, we’re not talking about players like Paul, Goodrow, Hagel, Schenn, Maroon.

It's funny to see the cart be put before the horse so badly by some commentators. Tampa was very much a team that built a winner in a modern way: tanking, losing, re-tooling, trading, and tinkering.

It's likely 2024 is the last 5OA pick of this generation. The question is simply: Do we have sufficient super-talent players in the organization? Maybe we do...

 

[WeThreeKings]

Would prefer someone else then Miettinen though

Letourneau was the best option after us. Surin, Hage, boisvert were gone ahead of us

 

[Vachon23]

Letourneau was the best option after us. Surin, Hage, boisvert were gone ahead of us

Who were the other players available?

 

[Team_Spirit]

I'm up to like 20 games of Sennecke now. I try so hard but I can't get over the posture, the fact he can't stop gliding, the way he looks like Benoit Pouliot effort level wise at times, the way pucks just float away from him despite his seemingly very good stick-handling and the way he seems to be mostly in the wrong spot often. It's tough because you see the talent, he's skilled, he's raw, he does have shifts where he works super hard, he has shifts where he pushes the play and flashes shot, hands, skating and passing but when you compare him with Lindstrom and Iginla I'm not sure I can see it and of course with Catton and Demidov it's just not the pick, we'd be reaching hard on size.

Benoit Pouliot o lord, these 3~4 inches really blind people

 

[Habs Halifax]

It's funny to see the cart be put before the horse so badly by some commentators. Tampa was very much a team that built a winner in a modern way: tanking, losing, re-tooling, trading, and tinkering.

It's likely 2024 is the last 5OA pick of this generation. The question is simply: Do we have sufficient super-talent players in the organization? Maybe we do...

Not probable that we have a top 10 star but if we have a complete roster with a top 5D in the league, we can do some damage. All we need is Suzuki, Dach, Slaf, Caufield, and our next pick to be top 20 or top 30 players in the league and we will be fine.

Lots of work to do yet but this rebuild is very sound. It has both quality and quantity and we have a shit load more draft power to come to keep working on adding quality.

 

[Ozmodiar]

It's funny to see the cart be put before the horse so badly by some commentators. Tampa was very much a team that built a winner in a modern way: tanking, losing, re-tooling, trading, and tinkering.

It's likely 2024 is the last 5OA pick of this generation. The question is simply: Do we have sufficient super-talent players in the organization? Maybe we do...

Without breaking up the top line, they definitely need more offensive talent on Line 2.

 

[crosbyshow]

Sure, if Catton was a 140 point player. But he isn’t.

If Kucherov was suppose to be a 140 points player at 18..he would not have bern drafted in the second round..

Catton all the way at 5...we need talent

 

[The Great Weal]

Once upon a time, KK was a good kid who wanted to learn, unlike the lazy Galchenyuk... Everything is fine and dandy until it's not anymore.

I'd imagine that if he didn't seem like a good kid, he wouldn't have been drafted at 3rd overall. But yes it's hard to know pre-draft who will be lazy and too entitled to listen to criticism and who will actually put in the work.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

The problem with KK even back to his draft year was his conditioning. He'd regularly be great in the first period but after that played like a wet fart. He never improved on it unfortunately. He was a smart player, had good vision. He could never get his shot off though.

 

[PavelBrendl]

You developp them, by putting them in situttion they can succeed. We don't have that in Montreal for Catton. Not everybody can be Tampa and I would'nt compare myself to a dynasty.

It's evident the way the roster is build and the reinbacker pick that we're aiming to be the next Dallas stars, not the next Lightning. And it's great like that.

Surely, a guy like Catton can’t play his game in our top 6 when he’s getting pushed around alongside our other undersized players like Suzuki, Slafkovsky and Dach… right?

Too many size queens see one small forward like Caufield in our top 6, and suddenly the entire top 6 is undersized.

And I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: take a look at the top 20 scorers in the NHL and you’ll find a wild and crazy statistic: half of them are ~185 lbs or less.

The Reinbacher pick also tells us that we absolutely needed to address the absolute black hole at RD much more than it tells us we’re trying to be the Dallas Stars. The fact that we’re comparing Tampa and Dallas also tells us one thing: there are many ways to build a contender and the only thing that’s non-negotiable is talent.

 

[le_sean]

The only thing I want is for the Habs to evaluate talent better than you.

*Better than you AND me @ReHabs.

I re-read my post and it was a lot meaner than I expected it would come off

 

[Jaynki]

Size is important in the concept of a team.

Not individually.

Lightning won when they acquired big, gritty players. Their core was smallish but it was still a big team that played big too.

While individually looking at a player, talent will always prime over size.

But when a player has both, like Lindstrom, then an evident premium becomes attached to it because you have the potential for something very rare.

On the other hands, plenty of small talented forward and plenty of big unskilled player are always available.

Pretty simple.

 

[Runner77]

Don’t know where D’Amico is hearing it from, but we’ll take it.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1798310219367543024

 

[le_sean]

Don’t know where D’Amico is hearing it from, but we’ll take it.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1798310219367543024

But the Ducks can’t make two picks at 3

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Don’t know where D’Amico is hearing it from, but we’ll take it.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1798310219367543024

I thought that was pretty well established since the lottery. Important thing is if 3 d go in the top 5, then Demidov is there for us.

 

[Runner77]

I thought that was pretty well established since the lottery. Important thing is if 3 d go in the top 5, then Demidov is there for us.

I thought there was nothing well established after Celebrini.

Happy with one of Demidov/ Lindstrom, should D’Amico’s scenario pan out.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

The only thing I want is for the Habs to evaluate talent better than you.

That could be said for any of us man

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Size is important in the concept of a team.

Not individually.

Lightning won when they acquired big, gritty players. Their core was smallish but it was still a big team that played big too.

While individually looking at a player, talent will always prime over size.

But when a player has both, like Lindstrom, then an evident premium becomes attached to it because you have the potential for something very rare.

On the other hands, plenty of small talented forward and plenty of big unskilled player are always available.

Pretty simple.

Talent and size is the ideal. That’s why we’re all so hopeful about Slaf. A shame Lindstrom’s back got all mangled. I wanted to see what he could do. On the flipside, I guess if he had a great year he wouldn’t be available to us.

 

[crosbyshow]

Size is important in the concept of a team.

Not individually.

Lightning won when they acquired big, gritty players. Their core was smallish but it was still a big team that played big too.

While individually looking at a player, talent will always prime over size.

But when a player has both, like Lindstrom, then an evident premium becomes attached to it because you have the potential for something very rare.

On the other hands, plenty of small talented forward and plenty of big unskilled player are always available.

Pretty simple.

3rd and 4th line.. i agree..you need size...but in the first 2 lines you need talent even if you have 2 undersized players...Catton is more talented than Lindstrom..way more...you take him..

 

[Jaynki]

Talent and size is the ideal. That’s why we’re all so hopeful about Slaf. A shame Lindstrom’s back got all mangled. I wanted to see what he could do. On the flipside, I guess if he had a great year he wouldn’t be available to us.

It might one big luck since i doubt a 6ft4 50 goals scoring centerman would be available at 5, in any given draft year.

On the other hand, its concerning, isnt it.

There is no free lunch