salbutera
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It actually was due to Habs lacking a minute eating LDman behind Markov or a legit 1C, not Theodore and Danis (Huet was not part of the org at 2005 draft)
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Ozmodiar
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So the heavier, thicker player can’t compete in terms of size. lol
Are you paying attention to what you’re writing?
SannywithoutCompy
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He was, I rewatched the draft video prior to posting that. He was acquired in June 2004
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Hedman will go down as one of, if not the best defenseman of his generation.
Kucherov and Point are hart trophy candidates. Kucherov just had 144 points this year, but I guess he isn't generational?
Catton is better than Caufield and Newhook at the same age
We draft him and we can trade one of the others in 2 years.
Dont Be too confident that we will not draft him....cause I red in 2018 that we will not draft kk and last year with Reinbacher.
Catton is rhe most talented forward except Celebrini and Demidov...and we need talent to win the cup.
Plenty of hall of fame players who won the Cup were at 5.11 175 pounds at 18 years old
salbutera
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“They have so many other needs, very unproven on D, no big body presence down middle…”
My error re:Huet
Career highs for 20-22-23yr old players lol
What’s encouraging is that their respective point totals have been trending up every season, the team is getting better and the talent on defence is just arriving.
Expect these point totals to jump even more in the next two years as this team gels and matures!
Three 80pt+ players on this team is very likely.
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Goes to show how big Gainey's sack was to go with Price, knowing he's the superior prospect, despite needs elsewhere in the organization. And what a decision it was.
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The Devils blueprint didn’t work because Hughes hasn’t won a Cup by age 23? That’s quite the tight window.
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You could argue that Kopitar would have been the better pick, but definitely lucky we didn't opt for Brulé
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You might've missed the point of my comment. The other person claims he/she is certain the Habs are going to emulate the Dallas stars trajectory and therefore need to draft accordingly. I argue we have open roles across the lineup and no sure things anywhere -- therefore going with (percieved) talent over size is obvious, to me. My argument isn't against the current players... I want to add talent to them
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Yeah how dare a small player get injured, our big players never get injured! And I can't believe Hughes and Nemec aren't already in their prime, despicable
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Tampa won two cups and made four finals with Point and Kucherov... but the Habs must never draft a super skilled, super productive player under 5'11"... because uhh Alex Newhook or something
Ozmodiar
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Kooch missed the season, returned, and led his team in playoff scoring by a wide margin.
Their top 9 scoring forwards in PO’s that season all under 200lbs.
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Lol. I will say though, I'm a massive WaWa fan and do believe he will be a 60 point player. We are probably drafting another top 6 forward with our 5th OA, and trading/signing one isn't completely impossible. We should be fine in having "top 6 players" but we need the elite talent as opposed to a bunch of 2nd liners. Suzuki/Slaf might be in the ball park as a Robertson/Hintz as we get better, but that's still not enough.
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Yes. And the Lightning were a very strong cup winner. Deep everywhere, size and skill. Maybe we'll never be as good as they were, but we don't have to be in order to win a cup.
I used to argue in favour of teams like Pittsburgh, LA and Chicago. People would make fun of those teams but I'd say... wait and see. All of them went on to win multiple cups.
Have some patience.
Kucherov is a HOFer. Not generational. And you're comparing guys who've already had their prime or are in it to kids.
I'm not sure how you guys don't understand that it takes time to build a winner. Even if you have all the ingredients you have to give them time to mature. Look at Slaf from one year to the next... Nobody knew Kucherov was going to be a superstar. If they did, he wouldn't have been drafted 58th overall. Maybe Lane Hutson becomes a superstar, entirely possible. People had written off Slaf after his rookie year... remember that?
All we can do is draft high and trade for good young prospects. Some things will work out (Slaf last year) and some things will go wrong (Dach and CC injuries.) You keep going and re-evaluating as you go.
Some guys will pan out and some won't. But I think we're on a really good path. A ton of young talent and excess prospects to trade with. We've got a whack more picks in the next couple of drafts and I think we'll probably miss the playoffs again next year which means we'll have a decent enough pick then too.
Slaf, CC, Hutson, Roy, Guhle, RB, Beck, Mailloux... they should all be better three to five years from now. Great young players. Dach is a bit of a question mark but he can be replaced if we have to. We've got guys like Engstrom, Mesar, Struble, Harris and others to trade with as well... Suzuki's a good captain and we've got a good culture. This is by far the best young group we've had in at least 30 years - probably the best young group since the up and coming mid 80s teams.
As I've said many times here, I'd like to see us with more goalscoring ability. CC's shoulder is a concern. I'm hopeful he bounces back but we'll see. I continue to maintain the unpopular belief that Eiserman has the highest ceiling in this draft outside Cellebrini and would crush it for us. He needs development but won the scoring record with a bad overall game.
Incredible. Anway, he's not going to be taken by us... so I really am good with any of Demidov, Lidstrom or Iginla. Demidov would be the most fun to watch. He oozes skill. Lidstrom provides a dimension that we've lacked since the 80s - a big team that's hard to play against. Him, Dach and Slaf would be amazing in the top six. And Iginla has some sniping ability that is a consolation to me for not getting Eiserman.As I've said repeatedly, I'll be fine with whoever we take. After the 2022 draft, the scouting group has earned the benefit of the doubt. Still hoping we trade up and grab Eiserman later but that's a pipe dream.
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I'm up to like 20 games of Sennecke now. I try so hard but I can't get over the posture, the fact he can't stop gliding, the way he looks like Benoit Pouliot effort level wise at times, the way pucks just float away from him despite his seemingly very good stick-handling and the way he seems to be mostly in the wrong spot often. It's tough because you see the talent, he's skilled, he's raw, he does have shifts where he works super hard, he has shifts where he pushes the play and flashes shot, hands, skating and passing but when you compare him with Lindstrom and Iginla I'm not sure I can see it and of course with Catton and Demidov it's just not the pick, we'd be reaching hard on size.
I'm also unsure what the use of picking a guy thats 6'3 if he stays 60 feet from the play 75% of the time. He's a project, but I think we probably should be past these projects at this point. The Habs need that elusive #3 forward to compiment Slaf and Suzuki and slide down CC to 4-5. I think all three of Iggy, Catton and Demidov are pretty much locks to be just that, why risk it, really ?
I'm also unsure what the use of picking a guy thats 6'3 if he stays 60 feet from the play 75% of the time. He's a project, but I think we probably should be past these projects at this point. The Habs need that elusive #3 forward to compiment Slaf and Suzuki and slide down CC to 4-5. I think all three of Iggy, Catton and Demidov are pretty much locks to be just that, why risk it, really ?
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According to what we were able to learn while strolling in the lobby of the chic hotel where the elite of the NHL are gathered this week, it is that the Demidov clan ensures that the young Russian's plan is to make the jump in North America at the end of his contract in Russia, i.e. at the end of the next season. » - Kevin Dubé, TVA Sports
“It seems that SKA wanted to ensure that Demidov would have a long-term agreement with the team, which the Russian player's clan refused in order to keep their doors open and ensure they could make the jump to north America. North, if he wanted, without having to wait three years like Michkov. » - Kevin Dubé, TVA Sports
“It seems that SKA wanted to ensure that Demidov would have a long-term agreement with the team, which the Russian player's clan refused in order to keep their doors open and ensure they could make the jump to north America. North, if he wanted, without having to wait three years like Michkov. » - Kevin Dubé, TVA Sports
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I agree which is why I've got him last in that tier of forwards. I wouldn't be upset if we picked him, I just think it would be a huge gamble on our development team.
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You can't have it both ways with a short term argument and then claiming you want a long term window. lol
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None of the prospects not yet drafted have scored a single point in the NHL. Maybe I don't understand, what is your point?
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