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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • Total voters
    422
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Jaynki said:
Draft junkies, How are Celebrini, Eiserman, Demidov, Catton faring against Fantilli, Carlsson, Smith and Michkov?

MBN or Leonard?
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Celebrini is a smarter hockey player than Fantilli, I'd say the skill level is similar where Fantilli has obvious physical gifts that help him in the NHL. I like Celebrini more because of the IQ, so Celebrini has more upside but a lower floor.

MBN is better than Leonard, imo. Better finisher and has more room to grow in his offensive game.

Bedard
Carlsson
Celebrini
Fantilli
Eiserman
Michkov
Demidov
Catton
Smith
MBN
Leonard

based on who you mentioned

Carlsson would go 1OA for me still, so we are looking at 1OA in this draft going 3 last year.

Demidov has better hands, skating and playmaking than Michkov, but I think Michkov at this point has a better understanding of how to use his tools productively. Edge Michkov.

Catton and Smith/Cooley are very similar. I do think Catton is a way better finisher while not being as good of a playmaker but there's no question of Cattons motor.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
Adding Celebrini Eiserman Demidov or Catton is exactly what the rebuild ordered.
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WeThreeKings said:
Dickinson might go 2 that's how good he is.

Levshunov also has a big case for 2/3. I wouldn't be surprised to see Eiserman go at 4 just because of how valuable defenseman are and how good those two are.
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Not all that interesting for us but for discussion's sake.

I've read that Dickinson is outstanding in his own zone and great skater. But does he have the potential to QB a PP1?

As for Levshunov, from what I gather he is more aggressive offensively than Dickinson but less reliable (although still really good) defensively. Would that be accurate?

Haven't watch much of this draft class so far so trying to gather some intel before starting.
 
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Hope Of Glory said:
Not all that interesting for us but for discussion's sake.

I've read that Dickinson is outstanding in his own zone and great skater. But does he have the potential to QB a PP1?

As for Levshunov, from what I gather he is more aggressive offensively than Dickinson but less reliable (although still really good) defensively. Would that be accurate?

Haven't watch much of this draft class so far so trying to gather some intel before starting.
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He's not really a PP1 QB but he is a triggerman. Big shot, can move the puck.. kind of like a Mailloux style skill-set.

Levshunov is not as mean or polished defensively but his skating, ranginess and stick are more than enough to project a plus NHL defender with all his offensive skills and being a right shot.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
He's not really a PP1 QB but he is a triggerman. Big shot, can move the puck.. kind of like a Mailloux style skill-set.

Levshunov is not as mean or polished defensively but his skating, ranginess and stick are more than enough to project a plus NHL defender with all his offensive skills and being a right shot.
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Thanks.

Shouldn't matter much for us though. But guys like these will definitely push a few forwards down the rankings. We really need a top 5 pick.
 
Hope Of Glory said:
Thanks.

Shouldn't matter much for us though. But guys like these will definitely push a few forwards down the rankings. We really need a top 5 pick.
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Yes, that's the thing.. defenseman always go higher than anticipated in mocks. No one had Nemec at 2 but there were teams beyond NJD who valued him and Jiricek highly.. we took Reinbacher at 5 and many other teams were trying to get our pick to get him.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
Yes, that's the thing.. defenseman always go higher than anticipated in mocks. No one had Nemec at 2 but there were teams beyond NJD who valued him and Jiricek highly.. we took Reinbacher at 5 and many other teams were trying to get our pick to get him.
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And Arizona took Simashev at 6 and Vancouver went for another dmen at 11. Bob's final rankings at Reinbacher at 8th, but then no other dmen until 14th...

This year draft looks a lot more D heavy, so I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two taken in the top 5 and then more 5-10. Which might result in a good forwards where the Habs pick, but the scouting group just love dmens, so I'm not expecting them to pick a forward in a draft top heavy in Ds.

It's like useless to tank this year.
 
WeThreeKings said:
Yes, that's the thing.. defenseman always go higher than anticipated in mocks. No one had Nemec at 2 but there were teams beyond NJD who valued him and Jiricek highly.. we took Reinbacher at 5 and many other teams were trying to get our pick to get him.
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I am expecting a forward to slide where so many good defensemen at top of draft.
 
WeThreeKings said:
Celebrini is a smarter hockey player than Fantilli, I'd say the skill level is similar where Fantilli has obvious physical gifts that help him in the NHL. I like Celebrini more because of the IQ, so Celebrini has more upside but a lower floor.

MBN is better than Leonard, imo. Better finisher and has more room to grow in his offensive game.

Bedard
Carlsson
Celebrini
Fantilli
Eiserman
Michkov
Demidov
Catton
Smith
MBN
Leonard

based on who you mentioned

Carlsson would go 1OA for me still, so we are looking at 1OA in this draft going 3 last year.

Demidov has better hands, skating and playmaking than Michkov, but I think Michkov at this point has a better understanding of how to use his tools productively. Edge Michkov.

Catton and Smith/Cooley are very similar. I do think Catton is a way better finisher while not being as good of a playmaker but there's no question of Cattons motor.
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Where would you put Reinbacher, Dickinson and Levshunov on this list?
 
Regarding Boisvert : it seems the American system is better at developing Québécois players than the actual QMJHL. Sad.

I know Hockey Québec has done a huge turn-around in the past few years, but the effects will take time to show. For now, an elite young QCois is better served going the OHL or NCAA route than the QMJHL one.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
Celebrini is a smarter hockey player than Fantilli, I'd say the skill level is similar where Fantilli has obvious physical gifts that help him in the NHL. I like Celebrini more because of the IQ, so Celebrini has more upside but a lower floor.

MBN is better than Leonard, imo. Better finisher and has more room to grow in his offensive game.

Bedard
Carlsson
Celebrini
Fantilli
Eiserman
Michkov
Demidov
Catton
Smith
MBN
Leonard

based on who you mentioned

Carlsson would go 1OA for me still, so we are looking at 1OA in this draft going 3 last year.

Demidov has better hands, skating and playmaking than Michkov, but I think Michkov at this point has a better understanding of how to use his tools productively. Edge Michkov.

Catton and Smith/Cooley are very similar. I do think Catton is a way better finisher while not being as good of a playmaker but there's no question of Cattons motor.
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I would have Celebrini over Carlsson - but only if Celebrini fully recovers from his injury by February.

I don't think Carlsson would compete against a healthy Celebrini on being a game-breaker, and I believe only Bedard has arguments over Celebrini there - and it's possible Celebrini will be a more important player than Bedard in the playoffs. We haven't seen this level of 2 way play / puck domination in a long time. Finding the proper comparable is hard.

I think you have the rest of the 2024s too high. The evidence there is if you compare the D-1 years of the 2023s vs. 2024s, the 2023s were in another league of performance a year prior already. So I would downrank everybody, including Eiserman by at least 3 rankings. Eiserman didn't do so well when he was playing with the guys 1 year older to be ranked this way. Smith in his D-1 year had better performances against D players.

Jabba11 said:
So, the tank starts again?

I hate this so much. Last year was so painful finishing with the 5th pick.

Can we just have Berkly Catton and call it even?
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Celebrini or bust, we need our star and Catton isn't it (not that he wouldn't help). Unfortunately this is an average draft.
 
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Cosentino has the top 4 as Celebrini, Eiserman, Demidov and Catton right now. We surely won't see another draft where the top 4 picks are all forwards. One of Demidov or Catton should be there at #6 or even #7.

Dickinson and Levshunov both look like top picks and it shouldn't surprise anyone if Silayev goes top 5-6 on draft day. Simashev went 6th in a better draft. NHL scouts will be drooling over that size and skating.
 
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Riggins said:
Cosentino has the top 4 as Celebrini, Eiserman, Demidov and Catton right now. We surely won't see another draft where the top 4 picks are all forwards. One of Demidov or Catton should be there at #6 or even #7.

Dickinson and Levshunov both look like top picks and it shouldn't surprise anyone if Silayev goes top 5-6 on draft day. Simashev went 6th in a better draft. NHL scouts will be drooling over that size and skating.
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I think Mews will go up around January/February
 
WeThreeKings said:
Bedard
Carlsson
Celebrini
Fantilli
Dickinson
Eiserman
Michkov
Levshunov
Demidov
Catton
Smith
Reinbacher
Brandsegg-Nygard
Leonard
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If Benson keeps up this level of play he would put himself among this group.
Likely around where Catton, smith and Reinbacher are.

I'd also currently have Connolly ahead of MBN and the other bigger 24' forwards. The skill, pace and play-driving is too good to not give him the edge. He's been dominant the games i've seen, despite little talent around him. He's neck and neck with Catton for me.
 
WeThreeKings said:
He's an interesting lil bugger ain't he?

I saw one of his goals and it was a f***en bullet
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He can rip it. IIRC, Karlsson only had 13 goals in his draft year. He in fact has more goals than any other J20 draft eligible, even Fernström who has slowed down as of late.
 
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