HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

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Puljujarvi had a low IQ and KK couldnt skate. Helenius has probably the highest IQ in the draft and projects as an above average skater at the NHL level.

A blend of Suzuki, Aho is a fair comparison IMO.


Just for curiosity, which fowards do you have over Helenius?

Celebrini (duh, lol)
Demidov
Lindstrom
Catton
Iginla
Helenius

I have mega concerns about Lindstroms back issues though. I put him there with assumption the team does a full evaluation and concerns are alleviated - otherwise he’s a DND for me.
 
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I think Montreal's current management values size a lot high in the draft. Slaf, Reinbacher... 2 in 2 so far. They also traded for 6'3 Dach.... Newhook is small however.

We'll see, but for the forwards only Lindstrom fits the profile in the top 10. Dickinson, Levshunov and Silayev for the Ds.
They would value durabilty more than size IMO.
There is no way they pass on a Helenius or an Iginla or a Catton for an inch or two.
Provided they see a physique that can eventually play 82 games plus another 20-25 in the post season.
 
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They would value durabilty more than size IMO.
There is no way the pass on a Helenius or an Iginla or a Catton for an inch or two.
Provided they see a physique that can eventually play 82 games plus another 20-25 in the post season.
To me the only players with a "size" advantage in the top of draft are Lindstrom, Levshunov, Silayev and Dickinson.

All others are either medium sized or on the smaller frame.

I am under the impression (maybe wrongly so) they value that at the top of the draft (combo of size AND talent, which most of the time can only be found in the top 10), and they are more focussed in talent alone later on.
 
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I do wonder/worry a bit if we fall down 2 spots that they might start looking towards Sennecke. They like late risers, they like big guys with tools and a lot of potential.

I don't doubt they could develop him into something good, but it gives me flashbacks of Serron Noel a few years back.
 

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I think Montreal's current management values size a lot high in the draft. Slaf, Reinbacher... 2 in 2 so far. They also traded for 6'3 Dach.... Newhook is small however.

We'll see, but for the forwards only Lindstrom fits the profile in the top 10. Dickinson, Levshunov and Silayev for the Ds.

Tij not small.

They also signed Caufield to 8 years and have been high on Hutson since the beginning. They also drafted Mesar and Beck with early pick and traded early picks for Newhook.

I dont think they are on size individually. (They stated they need to get bigger.)I think they are on talent.

Slaf and Reinbacher have been drafted mainly for their talent.
 

Michoulicious

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Tij not small.

They also signed Caufield to 8 years and have been high on Hutson since the beginning. They also drafted Mesar and Beck with early pick and traded early picks for Newhook.

I dont think they are on size individually. (They stated they need to get bigger.)I think they are on talent.

Slaf and Reinbacher have been drafted mainly for their talent.
Yeah, but Tij is not "big" either. He's medium sized, not frail. I think they value bigger players at the top of the draft when they can. Maybe I am wrong.
 

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Yeah, but Tij is not "big" either. He's medium sized, not frail. I think they value bigger players at the top of the draft when they can. Maybe I am wrong.

We will see.

One thing is sure, big or small, we are getting ourselves another top prospects (-:
 
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Im sorry but this is a very ignorant post.
Ignoring the current situation on the battle field, the incoming 150 billion funding for more arms, and the president of the federation declaring it will lead to more ruin isn't any better. This is a real issue with real forthcoming consequences for all 18-27 yo Russians.
 

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Ignoring the current situation on the battle field, the incoming 150 billion funding for more arms, and the president of the federation declaring it will lead to more ruin isn't any better. This is a real issue with real forthcoming consequences for all 18-27 yo Russians.
No it's not. It hasn't been once, and it certainly won't be now that Ukraine is losing steam. They're not going to send Demidov to the front. They're not going to send their young athletes and young students with hopeful futures.
 

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Yeah, but Tij is not "big" either. He's medium sized, not frail. I think they value bigger players at the top of the draft when they can. Maybe I am wrong.
I think all teams value size at the top of the draft, unless you’re dealing with a Bedardian talent.
 

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Injuries worry me too much on Lindstrom. If I have chance at Catton I am taking it. If all 3 top forwards are gone I am taking right D. Or, If return is huge on Guhle I may trade him for core forward and pick Dickinson. Part because I am exceptionally high on Dickinson.
It’s not even a concern.



Just a hand injury and then hurt his back. It’s not some recurring thing that’s followed him until this point.

People see “hurt back” and then they basically think a career is over at 18 years old. Could just be a pulled muscle, shit happens. Look at Eichel, he needed major neck surgery and he’s fine.
 

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It’s not even a concern.



Just a hand injury and then hurt his back. It’s not some recurring thing that’s followed him until this point.

People see “hurt back” and then they basically think a career is over at 18 years old. Could just be a pulled muscle, shit happens. Look at Eichel, he needed major neck surgery and he’s fine.

Back injuries pile up. It's the most intricate biosystem and the knowledge is poor. It's probably the single hardest area to treat. It is cause for concern.

Eichel isn't fine, he hasn't played a full season in 5 years.
 

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Iginla I think also brings size and grit.
Not really. If his last name was Palmer instead of Iginla people would never think that he's gritty.

He doesn't actively look to avoid physical contacts but he's not a gritty power forward like the old man. At all.

If Tij was playing like Jarome he'd be a top 3 pick in this draft.
 

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It’s not even a concern.



Just a hand injury and then hurt his back. It’s not some recurring thing that’s followed him until this point.

People see “hurt back” and then they basically think a career is over at 18 years old. Could just be a pulled muscle, shit happens. Look at Eichel, he needed major neck surgery and he’s fine.

Or you get in the Vilardi situation where things get bad for a few years... Tough call.

Lindstrom has also a very physical type of play vs a guy like Vilardi who was more a skill/finesse type of player. Recurring back injuries at a young age are certainly concerning.

D'Amico is saying non sense when he attributes Lindstrom back pain at 17 years old to *growth pain*. Of course his agent will say stuff like that... He knows it will concern teams. Maybe he already had an MRI done and it didn't show anything major, which would be good.

Never heard of growth pain being the cause of recurring back issues in a 17 y old. A sprain, sure... But if comes back all the time, it ain't good.
 

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We have to understand that as armchair scouts we won't get the info on the back injury, so if the Habs take him, they felt confident it isn't an issue.. if they pass on him, they either thought it was an issue or that the person they took instead was simply the better prospect.

I'm drooling at the thought of rolling into the playoffs with Dach-Slaf-Lindstrom in the top 6.
 

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Back injuries pile up. It's the most intricate biosystem and the knowledge is poor. It's probably the single hardest area to treat. It is cause for concern.
Jesus...

Not all injuries are the same.
 
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Not really. If his last name was Palmer instead of Iginla people would never think that he's gritty.

He doesn't actively look to avoid physical contacts but he's not a gritty power forward like the old man. At all.

If Tij was playing like Jarome he'd be a top 3 pick in this draft.
The chasm between a gritty forward and the best powerforward of all time is immense. To say Iginla is not gritty is just an outright misinterpretation of his skillset. He thrives in the corners and he's probably the best puck cycler in the draft. He's also a fantastic net front presence.
 

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Lindstrom back injury was from overtraining wasn’t it? I don’t know the fears feel exaggerated, guess we’ll hear more at combine
 
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Jesus...

Not all injuries are the same.
And you know that his injury isn't cause for concern?

An injury is always cause for concern. A back injury is probably the worse one a player can have. The only thing we can say is that there's this and the teams will have to do their due diligence.
 
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