Interesting, I think Dickinson is a pretty safe bet to be a top pairing guy and I like his offense better than Reinbacher. Buium is my next d after him, with Parekh rounding out that tier for me. Not as high on Levshunov, Yakemchuk, or Silayev.
That's exactly what I said to myself. You add the fact he's a power forward and it's a no-brainer and then the dark side of my mind tells me he has had back problems. Damn!
He's a safe bet to be a 4-6, it's the upside that Im scared of. I have a hard time going with Dickinson when Silayev is there, and I wouldn't want Silayev over anyone in the top 10. (My top 10.)
And that's the thing though, the powerforward moniker gets thrown around, a lot. Way too much.
I'd say Dickinson has better gap control, passing, more accurate shooting, and is smarter than Silayev
I don't agree with gap control, if there's anything Silayev can do its control gaps. He's almost Chara like at his age, and doing it against men.
Helenius already did more in the Liiga playoffs against pro men than Lindstrom and Catton did in the CHL playoffs against kids.
I'm not trying to take anything away from the CHL players you mentioned as I like them all but your lack of perspective on different leagues is making my belly ache again from laughing so hard. You're completely lost.
You don't draft players for what they did in their draft year, but what they do in the NHL. I'm sure you said something similar to this at least once in regards to Slaf. Don't move the goalposts, it doesn't look good.Helenius already did more in the Liiga playoffs against pro men than Lindstrom and Catton did in the CHL playoffs against kids.
Men vs kids is never the most convincing argument for me. CHL players cannot compete against men you cannot blame them on that especially when the level of the league is very poor like in Finland. I do love Helenius ability to compete at a young age but I would never put that production as a guarantee of NHL success.Helenius already did more in the Liiga playoffs against pro men than Lindstrom and Catton did in the CHL playoffs against kids.
Puljujarvi and Kotkaniemi were also heralded as top two-way options in their draft years.
No kidding but play in their draft year, how they're progressing, how they play in big games is a huge part of how you make informed decisions. That's why Slaf shot up and Wright went down in their draft years. And of course level of competition has to be considered.
To strive for a better board we should just try to remain as honest as possible. Especially this thread, it's probably the only non-toxic thread that exists on the whole internet, lets keep it that way.
Aho has nothing on Helenius other than being 5'11 finish center. He had elite traits like skating and hands but he was very frail and he was playing at the junior level on his draft year. He explosed to the forefront in his D+1. BTW if Helenius was talked about as a 2nd round pick like Aho I would be the first on saying he is a no brainer but we are talking about 5th overall there we have to get a good player.
What are you talking about by "honest"? And what does this have to do with draft talk?
Nothing's guaranteed. Otherwise everyone would have the same rankings and favourites and we'd have nothing to talk about.
Let me ask you this, What is the most important in evaluating prospect, talent + projectable traits or pure production?
Puljujarvi had a low IQ and KK couldnt skate. Helenius has probably the highest IQ in the draft and projects as an above average skater at the NHL level.
Just for curiosity, which fowards do you have over Helenius?
Puljujarvi was seen as a high IQ player in his draft year, I know you probably don't remember because you were'nt active around these parts but people were talking about him as a Barkov-like winger.
Ive already done that earlier this season, Lindstrom would be a great pick no doubt, but I think Helenius has even more offense in him and would fit greatly too. Anyway, Im sold to my top 4 fowards, any of them would propel the franchise in contender mode going foward,Let's stop wasting time on Helenius. Goldenhands, convince us on Lindstrom instead. Thanks in advance.
The wild part of this draft is I can see any one of the #10-12 ranked guys on your list going in the top 5. I could also see Sennecke or Yakemchuk going in the top 10. I've never seen a draft that's so up in the air from 2-14 and that could go in so many directions.
