HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Big Empty]

If the BPA at 5 is a dman, pick the dman and make room for him.

Do not compromise talent for need.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Didn’t like reading that he allegedly got defensive when asked about his defensive play. If he’s satisfied with the level he’s currently playing at on that side of the puck, I’m not so sure he’ll be invested in turning it around.

Didn’t hear the interview myself, so take that with a grain of salt.

It's in an article I posted earlier in this thread.

How much stock teams want to put into that is I guess in the eye of the beholder. I think it's a bit of a red flag but it's not disqualifying. I'd definitely be asking questions in the interviews though. Coachability will be so important with him.

I actually don’t get why people don’t want to draft Eiserman at 5-9 if Lindstrom is taken before then. He’s been an elite goal scorer at every level, since he was 11. He’ll continue that in the NHL. And he’s big enough. His ability to score from anywhere inside the blue line is a phenomenon.

I think you're right.

But I get why people don't want to take him. He's got big holes in his game and he's going to rely on his teammates to get the puck into the opposing zone. He's a really high end complimentary player - a lot like Brett Hull was.

He's big, he's physical and he can skate. But from what I've seen and what's been reported, he doesn't have great IQ. He'll make a hit when he shouldn't, he'll miss defensive assignments, he'll zig when he should zag.

But there's no doubt that he can score. None. If you can improve on his weaknesses (and it's important to remember that he's one of the youngest players in this draft class) and can live with some deficiencies, then I think he'd be a powerful offensive weapon.

As I've said, I think his upside is too good to pass up. I'd take him but I get why there are others who don't want to touch him.

The comparable is Brett Hull. That doesn't mean that I think he's going to score 90, but he has the upside to be a top goalscorer - fifty plus. Unfortunately, he doesn't do anything else really well. So I guess the question is, how much do you value goalscoring? I personally value it a lot. It's the single most important thing a player can offer. But he's going to need help getting the puck into the offensive zone just like Hull did. He's not a Steve Yzerman, Denis Savard type guy. He'll need a two way playmaker. Fortunately we just happen to have two of them in our lineup right now.

 

[The Last Red]

It's in an article I posted earlier in this thread.

How much stock teams want to put into that is I guess in the eye of the beholder. I think it's a bit of a red flag but it's not disqualifying. I'd definitely be asking questions in the interviews though. Coachability will be so important with him.

I think you're right.

But I get why people don't want to take him. He's got big holes in his game and he's going to rely on his teammates to get the puck into the opposing zone. He's a really high end complimentary player - a lot like Brett Hull was.

He's big, he's physical and he can skate. But from what I've seen and what's been reported, he doesn't have great IQ. He'll make a hit when he shouldn't, he'll miss defensive assignments, he'll zig when he should zag.

But there's no doubt that he can score. None. If you can improve on his weaknesses (and it's important to remember that he's one of the youngest players in this draft class) and can live with some deficiencies, then I think he'd be a powerful offensive weapon.

As I've said, I think his upside is too good to pass up. I'd take him but I get why there are others who don't want to touch him.

The comparable is Brett Hull. That doesn't mean that I think he's going to score 90, but he has the upside to be a top goalscorer - fifty plus. Unfortunately, he doesn't do anything else really well. So I guess the question is, how much do you value goalscoring? I personally value it a lot. It's the single most important thing a player can offer. But he's going to need help getting the puck into the offensive zone just like Hull did. He's not a Steve Yzerman, Denis Savard type guy. He'll need a two way playmaker. Fortunately we just happen to have two of them in our lineup right now.

We have the centers to feed him: 14 and 77. No need to overthink here. Take him.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

We have the centers to feed him: 14 and 77. No need to overthink here. Take him.

I think having CC on one line and Eiserman on another would be insane. And our PP would be incredible as well. I'd take him but I'm clearly in the minority on this one. And I understand why.

 

[The Last Red]

I think having CC on one line and Eiserman on another would be insane. And our PP would be incredible as well. I'd take him but I'm clearly in the minority on this one. And I understand why.

We’re in the minority here because this a board where people actually take a clown like Snake Boisvert seriously.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Eiserman was like 2 weeks away from being drafted in 2025. He’s that young and scoring at this rate.

Captain Nick and Slaf and Dach will set him straight, if needed.

 

[The Last Red]

If the BPA at 5 is a dman, pick the dman and make room for him.

Do not compromise talent for need.

The problem is that “BPA” doesn’t have a single, or static, meaning. It also requires context.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I think having CC on one line and Eiserman on another would be insane. And our PP would be incredible as well. I'd take him but I'm clearly in the minority on this one. And I understand why.

I did like Eiserman at last year's U18. He aggressively went to the net & was constantly finding holes to get shots through.

I didn't much like Catton at the same tournament. He wasn't a strong skater, kept giving the puck away and couldn't provide any offense in tight checking, physical games, which is still a concern with him, too.

They were both under agers.

Anyways that tournament starts the 25th. 11 days away.

 

[The Last Red]

Eiserman was like 2 weeks away from being drafted in 2025. He’s that young and scoring at this rate.

Captain Nick and Slaf and Dach will set him straight, if needed.

So will Jay Pandolfo.

 

[The Last Red]

I did like Eiserman at last year's U18. He aggressively went to the net & was constantly finding holes to get shots through.

I didn't much like Catton at the same tournament. He wasn't a strong skater, kept giving the puck away and couldn't provide any offense in tight checking, physical games, which is still a concern with him, too.

They were both under agers.

Anyways that tournament starts the 25th. 11 days away.

Do I want to spend the next two years worrying about Catton’s diet and time in the gym? Hell no.

 

[Paddy17]

Zeev Buium, the next Habs!

He's pretty good. X and Z pairing!

I still prefer we get one of Demidov, Lindstrom, Iginla or Catton, though.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

We’re in the minority here because this a board where people actually take a clown like Snake Boisvert seriously.

Well, I wouldn't take Eiserman, but still consider Boisvert a clown of the worst kind.

 

[le_sean]

I definitely wouldn’t draft the kid who had to be consoled by some kid uttering something stupid. I’ve heard all sorts of trash talk playing sports, and some of it was obviously quite nasty and meant to get others off their game. Not defending being able to say whatever you want to others, but just underlining the value of thick skin and reselience. I can’t imagine hearing anything from my competitors that would affect me emotionally.

Are you black? Because I played with a black player and he heard some really nasty shit on the ice and had to be consoled. it was disgusting and having a “suck it up” attitude is just showing your privilege.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

If Eiserman is as good as his most optimistic prediction, he will be picked high. He is not some hidden talent that is hard to scout.

If the concerns a lot of us have are legit, he will drop around 10. We have the benefit of just waiting and letting the decision makers make the decision.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Since the advent of the NHL Draft Lottery, there has been a cumulative 100 spots that teams have moved up. All Canadian teams combined have moved up a total of eight spots, and four of those were Winnipeg moving from 6 to 2. Yet, despite winning three Stanley Cups during that period, the Blackhawks have won the lottery often enough to move up a combined 19 places! One US team has moved up 2.5 times more spots than seven Canadian teams.

Chicago will get "lucky" again. The lack of transparency in the lottery process makes it easy

Saw this posted elsewhere. Don't know if the stats are accurate though.

 

[le_sean]

Since the advent of the NHL Draft Lottery, there has been a cumulative 100 spots that teams have moved up. All Canadian teams combined have moved up a total of eight spots, and four of those were Winnipeg moving from 6 to 2. Yet, despite winning three Stanley Cups during that period, the Blackhawks have won the lottery often enough to move up a combined 19 places! One US team has moved up 2.5 times more spots than seven Canadian teams.

Chicago will get "lucky" again. The lack of transparency in the lottery process makes it easy

Saw this posted elsewhere. Don't know if the stats are accurate though.

Matthews going to the Leafs and not Coyotes should be proof enough that it isn’t rigged. That would have saved Gary’s beloved franchise.

 

[Bobby Holik agent]

Bettman gonna be like ... mwahahahaha lottery draft here's my nhl masterplan.
McDavid to Edmonton yes!!! Mwahahahahaha.
MONEY!

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Bettman gonna be like ... mwahahahaha lottery draft here's my nhl masterplan.
McDavid to Edmonton yes!!! Mwahahahahaha.
MONEY!

There was no important team in the top 12 of that draft, (with the possible exception of Philly). The same applies to Matthews draft year. NY, Boston, LA, Chicago, Detroit are the important teams to the Buttman. And the Slafkovsky draft there was no superstar to be worth trying to move Phllly up from 5th.

 

[McGees]

You guys are crazy conspiracy theorists.
The NHL doesn’t rig the lottery.
The reason Chicago wins the lottery is because they do black magic and sacrifice babies.

 

[Nevins]

https://x.com/mndamico/status/1777876041542881459

 

[MON4NHLTOR4MLB]

Eiserman would be unreal for us. Steal of a pick at 5 or 6, don’t see Lindstrom being a guy, just looks good because of size now and Catton meh, Iggy is interesting. Demidov would be the best though

 

[MasterMatt25]

Eiserman would be unreal for us. Steal of a pick at 5 or 6, don’t see Lindstrom being a guy, just looks good because of size now and Catton meh, Iggy is interesting. Demidov would be the best though

Is it a steal if almost every mock has Eiserman falling out of the top 7, some even out of the top 10

 

[montreal]

I haven't seen too much of Buium but I don't think he's more skilled then Hutson but he's clearly bigger as he's likely got 3 inches and over 20 lbs on him while being 22 months younger. I like him a lot along with Levshunov and would have no problem if we ended up with either though I'm still holding out hope for Celebrini or Demidov at least until they announce the lottery winners.

To me Buium is someone you consider more at 7 OA or later if we somehow end up there. But it creates a problem with Hutson, clearly some D will have to be moved at some point but adding more to the mix is not my favorite idea but I say BPA whoever they think it is.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I would challenge Marco heavily on Lindstrom going top 5 - if he came back healthy and played the U18s, sure, but for now all we have is a small sample size and then some injuries.

It's possible he still does and personally if his medicals are good, then I would pull it at top 5 as well... but for teams that may have a bit more of an open book on what they're looking for, that might push him down out of the top 5.

Also, Iginla has 0 pts in 2 games against Prince George, the same team that an injured Catton had trouble producing against. Do we sound the bells about the concerns of Iginla being an unreliable playoff producer?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Is it a steal if almost every mock has Eiserman falling out of the top 7, some even out of the top 10

It is if he becomes a 50 goal scorer.