HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Bacchus1]

Stop asking questions on things that have been provided.

It’s not just one or two incidents.

If you feel that he deserves a shot, that’s cool. I respect the opinion. But stop asking for things that have been given.

If you had provided a link to the post, I would have read it. I can't find WTK with a search. But luckily someone provide a list.

Don't care about the kid, but I hate intolerance, ironically.

 

[Rapala]

Yes, but for each individual the progression is different. Specially when they don't play that many games in a year, I think it's important for Buium to repeat and then probably solidify with another year away from the pros.

Show that he didn't get it easy because he was young.

Anything is possible and like any youngster you are never sure of what you have until they play at the pro level.
A really advanced dman will show it in camp.

 

[WeThreeKings]

@WeThreeKings what is your top 5 and who do you think are realistic targets for the Habs at 5?

Celebrini
Demidov
Lindstrom
Dickinson
Catton

I'd say the only unrealistic options are Celebrini and Levshunov. I have extreme doubts they'd go LD with a top 5 pick. So no Dickinson Levshunov or Silayev.

I'd say you're looking at Demidov first, Lindstrom 2nd, Iginla 3rd, Catton 4th, Parekh 5th.

 

[Bacchus1]

2nd one I can write off as just being a dumb and edgy teenager like pretty much every teenager ever. First one is actually the biggest red flag, at no point in most people's lives would they have considered that a normal thing to do lmao

I actually think that #1 and #4 are the worst. If the kid pooped in a bag when he was sub 8 years old, then maaaaaaaaybe. If he did it when he was 16, then definitely a super jerk move .... although I bet a ton of NHLs have done VERY similar. Not condoning it, as I think the NHL has a lot of toxic masculinity. #4 is an issue for a hockey team ... but is teachable. Sam Bennett couldn't do a pull up during his draft year, and look at him now. Lots can be trained/learned.

Dumping in a bag, though, is some stupid stuff.

When I was in high school, some jerk geek kids thought that they were smart putting salt in another kid's water bottle during a 80 km bike trip. They though, wow, won't he be surprised! They didn't realize how dangerous it could be. They were 16 years old, and pretty smart geeks ... so ... yeah ... boys do dumb stuff.

 

[skidcells]

Anyone like Daniil Ustinkov with the Avs late second or the early third rounders?

 

[le_sean]

Funny to see people defend Connelly to the death considering even if he didn’t have the massive amounts of baggage, he shouldn’t even be selected at where we are selecting. So it’s arguing for the sake of arguing. Really weird hill to die on.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

If you had provided a link to the post, I would have read it. I can't find WTK with a search. But luckily someone provide a list.

Don't care about the kid, but I hate intolerance, ironically.

It’s two pages ago. Persistent bullying, moving from team to team, Nazi symbol, racist comments, dumping in a teammate’s bag…. He’s a chronic jackass.

If it was just the Nazi thing and he apologized sincerely and had no other record of anything m, then you can chalk it up to a really stupid mistake but this guy’s a gong show all over.

 

[Big Empty]

Celebrini
Demidov
Lindstrom
Dickinson
Catton

I'd say the only unrealistic options are Celebrini and Levshunov. I have extreme doubts they'd go LD with a top 5 pick. So no Dickinson Levshunov or Silayev.

I'd say you're looking at Demidov first, Lindstrom 2nd, Iginla 3rd, Catton 4th, Parekh 5th.

Thank you. I like Catton's play style. Admittedly I did not have plenty of time to follow the draft this year but on the surface, Catton passes the eye test and his numbers are excellent. Dynamic player.

 

[The Great Weal]

To those of you wanting to avoid drafting a defensive minded dman, are you comfortable having both Hutson and Mailloux in the top 4 as a playoff team? Because Guhle-Reinbacher will be overworked in terms of defensive assignments and odds are we will play the 3rd pair in those situations anyway.

 

[Mrb1p]

Anyone like Daniil Ustinkov with the Avs late second or the early third rounders?

Id go Muggli before Ustinkov, but I do like him.

 

[Bacchus1]

Funny to see people defend Connelly to the death considering even if he didn’t have the massive amounts of baggage, he shouldn’t even be selected at where we are selecting. So it’s arguing for the sake of arguing. Really weird hill to die on.

First, if he falls, because of the type of intolerance demonstrated by some people, then he could come to us. But, I don't care if he comes to us or not.

Second, as I have written, it isn't about him, but about the ruckus crowd that you seem to be in that wants to paint everyone who has ever done anything wrong with tar and feathers and claim that they are beyond reproach.

Finally, why aren't you finding it really weird when people who write that he is terrible, or they wouldn't touch him, or pass ... when you think he is unlikely to be available when we draft? Yep, I thought so.

 

[Mrb1p]

To those of you wanting to avoid drafting a defensive minded dman, are you comfortable having both Hutson and Mailloux in the top 4 as a playoff team? Because Guhle-Reinbacher will be overworked in terms of defensive assignments and odds are we will play the 3rd pair in those situations anyway.

Guhle Reinbacher should track to be pretty close to the elite defensively. Something along the lines of Pesce and Slavin.

I'd expect at least one of Struble, Xhekaj, Engstrom, Konyushkov, Barron or Trudeau to be at least able toe either hold a #4 role or a bottom-pair defensive specialist role ?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

We’re in the minority here because this a board where people actually take a clown like Snake Boisvert seriously.

I haven’t watched many of these guys. I like the idea of Eiserman because the goals are so valuable.

But I’m absolutely open to the idea of drafting someone else. Demodov is more dynamic, Lidstrom would give us a dimension in the top six that we lack, Catton appears to be a classic scoring center.

I have no idea who’s going to get drafted when but I’m sure I’ll be happy with whoever we take. I’ll trust the scouts as they know more than I do.

But yeah… right now, Eiserman would be my pick. He could be the big scorer we’ve lacked forever. And asssuming CC bounces back we’d have two top goal scorers in the lineup for the first time since Lafleur/Shutt. That’s how you win cups.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Reinbacher isn't even very good defensively, the hope is he can get there but right now he gets burnt a ton

Reinbacher's really good for a 19-year old. Strong mobility, gap control and reads. Transitions well from defense to offense. He's far from a finished product. He was used in the Swiss league to shut down top lines. The other poster compared Levshunov to Reinbacher and they are nothing alike. Levshunov's game is far more offensively driven and far less defensively driven than Reinbacher.

 

[themilosh]

this draft imo is pretty straight forward (depending on where we pick).

In order of availability: we desperately need...
1- Cellibrini (C)
2- Lindstrom (C)
3- Levshunov (RHD)
4- Parekh (RHD)

one of these guys will be available at #5

 

[sampollock]

To those of you wanting to avoid drafting a defensive minded dman, are you comfortable having both Hutson and Mailloux in the top 4 as a playoff team? Because Guhle-Reinbacher will be overworked in terms of defensive assignments and odds are we will play the 3rd pair in those situations anyway.

If they need a dman they can always sign a UFA or trade for one
But right now they need scoring and size on the top two lines

 

[skidcells]

Id go Muggli before Ustinkov, but I do like him.

I assumed Muggli will be gone by the time we get a chance to speak with the Avs pick. I have him going top 15-20 in the second round

 

[Andrei79]

Celebrini
Demidov
Lindstrom
Dickinson
Catton

I'd say the only unrealistic options are Celebrini and Levshunov. I have extreme doubts they'd go LD with a top 5 pick. So no Dickinson Levshunov or Silayev.

I'd say you're looking at Demidov first, Lindstrom 2nd, Iginla 3rd, Catton 4th, Parekh 5th.

Levshunov is a RHD.

 

[HuGort]

I assumed Muggli will be gone by the time we get a chance to speak with the Avs pick. I have him going top 15-20 in the second round

Left D isn't he?

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

I'm replying to what I am reading here. If anyone wants to specify, they can. But one poster called him a child, which I view as prepubescent.

I've heard of 2, two, <3 incidents: derogatory comment and lego swastika. What others?

I have no dog in drafting this guy. But I do hate when people gang up on a young guy with intolerance and try to cancel him. That sucks.

Around page 306 I think, @WeThreeKings has a great post laying out all the issues. Hope that helps

 

[skidcells]

Left D isn't he?

Yes but in later rounds the whole concept of drafting for need is nonsense for me. Draft bpa and trade away from a position of strength

 

[le_sean]

This has nothing to do with an anti-resilient culture. This isn't a coach being a bit too hard on players and being cancelled or people piling on Caufield writing Homophobic Slur. It's a pattern of sociopathic behaviors over a long period that scream red flags. People are saying they hope the Canadiens steer clear, not that this guy can't live a productive life. You're taking a strange angle here and writing up long posts repeating the same things ad nauseum. Problematic adults were problematic youths. It's okay to discuss it and it's okay if people want to steer clear with all the noise around him.

Resilience is Saku Koivu coming back from cancer. It’s not racist kid learns to keep his racism more private.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Levshunov is a RHD.

Yes he is, I mean Dickinson Silayev and Buium.

 

[The Great Weal]

This has nothing to do with an anti-resilient culture. This isn't a coach being a bit too hard on players and being cancelled or people piling on Caufield writing Homophobic Slur. It's a pattern of sociopathic behaviors over a long period that scream red flags. People are saying they hope the Canadiens steer clear, not that this guy can't live a productive life. You're taking a strange angle here and writing up long posts repeating the same things ad nauseum. Problematic adults were problematic youths. It's okay to discuss it and it's okay if people want to steer clear with all the noise around him.

Yeah I can't tolerate all the things he's done. The Swastika thing was dumb but that alone is not the reason why he should be a DND. At least with Mailloux it was an isolated incident, there's a clear pattern with this kid.

 

[Skip Bayless]

I've just watched Zeev Buium highlights for the first time. Why is Levshunov ranked higher?