HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[yianik]

He may not be built like those two but he’s the better hockey player. It’s clear as day.

The question is who will be the better hockey player in the NHL.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

The question is who will be the better hockey player in the NHL.

That's debatable and clearly hard to answer, nobody unless they have a crystal ball know that.

 

[Schooner Guy]

We factually know that will not be the case after Hughes' comments

I believe Hughes comments were along the lines of "all things being equal" they would go with needs. If they think an LD like Buium/Dickinson/Silayev is miles ahead of any forwards or RD still left on their draft board, they'll go with the LD.

 

[yianik]

That's debatable and clearly hard to answer, nobody unless they have a crystal ball know that.

Lol. I certainly don't, but I'm hoping the scouting staff we have uses something other than a crystal ball. Hughes has said what they try to do is figure out who the best player is 5 years from now, not the best today.

 

[vokiel]

I think we'd want to keep size in the rest our D. We'd be trading them both and going with Guhle Engstrom Xhekaj on LD
Buium Reinbacher Mailloux/Barron on RD

He's better than Lane Hutson right now I wouldn't worry too much about that.

Why is it meaningful? Buium is 2 years younger than Hutson, he has at least 2 more years to do in the NCAA imho.

 

[Rapala]

Why is it meaningful? Buium is 2 years younger than Hutson, he has at least 2 more years to do in the NCAA imho.

Did Fantilli Is Cellbrini how about Cale Makar?
The quality of the player will often dictate how long they spend in the NCAA.
For me he is good enough to spend one more year growing and can then make the jump straight to the NHL exactly like Cale Makar did.

 

[Shutdown]

I believe Hughes comments were along the lines of "all things being equal" they would go with needs. If they think an LD like Buium/Dickinson/Silayev is miles ahead of any forwards or RD still left on their draft board, they'll go with the LD.

he said if it looks like the best guy on their list would be at LD at their spot they would probably look to move up or down

HF Habs: - 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Simon snake Boisvert on: Lindstrom Iginla Catton Eiserman He is exactly where I am. Catton 5th overall Then Iginla , Lindstrom later He gives a lot of détails on each Starting at 37.12 (French) Catton is better than Iginla and way better than Lindstrom Interesting post. He makes it...

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[vokiel]

Did Fantilli Is Cellbrini how about Cale Makar?
The quality of the player will often dictate how long they spend in the NCAA.
For me he is good enough to spend one more year growing and can then make the jump straight to the NHL exactly like Cale Makar did.

Of this draft class only Celebrini is an exceptional talent. I like Buium a lot, but he's not on Makar's level.

 

[Rapala]

If Buium is determined to be BPA when we pick I don't think it will handcuff us in terms of being able to negotiate for a quality forward. if we select him.
I'm curious to see how everything shakes out in the final rankings leading up to the draft.

Of this draft class only Celebrini is an exceptional talent. I like Buium a lot, but he's not on Makar's level.

Celebrini may be drafted into the NHL immediately Buium not until after next season.
He's not the same animal as Makar I'll agree but I think he becomes the most talented all round defender in our group.
Do you not think Buium is a step above Jake Sanderson another example of a player who spent two years in the NCAA before making the jump.

 

[Rapala]

Anyways the Buium surge will taper off as other candidates make noise going forward.
My preference is probably still Iginla even though Kelowna has been blanked in two straight.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I don't see them being alike at all. Reinbacher's waaaaaaay better defensively.

Reinbacher isn't even very good defensively, the hope is he can get there but right now he gets burnt a ton

 

[Deebs]

Reinbacher isn't even very good defensively, the hope is he can get there but right now he gets burnt a ton

Is he taking poor angles because of the ice size difference/faster game?

 

[Rapala]

Reinbacher isn't even very good defensively, the hope is he can get there but right now he gets burnt a ton

Concerns about guys getting behind him. I think he's good enough to sort it all out.
His reach has saved his bacon more than once. Better decision making on when to be aggressive will fix a lot of those issues.

 

[BergevinBurner]

I can't wait for the U18 rosters to get announced. Eiserman should get a good chance to climb the rankings again with guys like Catton and Lindstrom sidelined.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Simon snake Boisvert on:

Lindstrom
Iginla
Catton
Eiserman


He is exactly where I am.

Catton 5th overall

Then Iginla , Lindstrom later

He gives a lot of détails on each

Starting at 37.12 (French)




Catton is better than Iginla and way better than Lindstrom

He seemed to say he'd take Connely fifth here... I don't think so sir.

 

[Leto]

He seemed to say he'd take Connely fifth here... I don't think so sir.

He is Boisvert's pocket pick. He is on record on the podcast that he'd take Connelly 2nd OA.​

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

He is Boisvert's pocket pick. He is on record on the podcast that he'd take Connelly 2nd OA.​

I haven't seen him in the top ten on any other list.

However, that could be entirely because of his off ice drama. I'd be curious to see where he'd rank on most lists without that baggage.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I can't wait for the U18 rosters to get announced. Eiserman should get a good chance to climb the rankings again with guys like Catton and Lindstrom sidelined.

Eiserman's so interesting. I've been watching clips of him and reading everything I can.

To me, he's got the talent to be be a truly legit top scorer. But there's a lot of work that's going to have to go into his game. It all comes down to coachability with him. He's never going to be a Selke candidate but he has to round out his overall game better than it is now. He's not a dynamic puck carrier, not flashy... but he sits in the circle and - bang! - it's in the net.

I totally get why some people don't want anything to do with him. But to me, if you round out his game a little, he could be a lethal part of the attack. Everyone needs goals and that's what he provides. The best comparable I can think of is Brett Hull. An incomplete player but a guy who can score in bunches.

 

[Leto]

I haven't seen him in the top ten on any other list.

However, that could be entirely because of his off ice drama. I'd be curious to see where he'd rank on most lists without that baggage.

Probably top 10 or on the bubble of a top 10 pick. He is ranked 11th in Bob's midseason ranking.​

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Probably top 10 or on the bubble of a top 10 pick. He is ranked 11th in Bob's midseason ranking.​

I've got that recorded on my DVR. I may go back and give that a listen again.

 

[The Last Red]

He seemed to say he'd take Connely fifth here... I don't think so sir.

Maybe Boisvert should get an NHL team to hire him. Then he can move out if his parents’ basement and get his own place. Just saying.

 

[bcv]

Eiserman's so interesting. I've been watching clips of him and reading everything I can.

To me, he's got the talent to be be a truly legit top scorer. But there's a lot of work that's going to have to go into his game. It all comes down to coachability with him. He's never going to be a Selke candidate but he has to round out his overall game better than it is now. He's not a dynamic puck carrier, not flashy... but he sits in the circle and - bang! - it's in the net.

I totally get why some people don't want anything to do with him. But to me, if you round out his game a little, he could be a lethal part of the attack. Everyone needs goals and that's what he provides. The best comparable I can think of is Brett Hull. An incomplete player but a guy who can score in bunches.

Didn’t like reading that he allegedly got defensive when asked about his defensive play. If he’s satisfied with the level he’s currently playing at on that side of the puck, I’m not so sure he’ll be invested in turning it around.

Didn’t hear the interview myself, so take that with a grain of salt.

 

[The Last Red]

Eiserman's so interesting. I've been watching clips of him and reading everything I can.

To me, he's got the talent to be be a truly legit top scorer. But there's a lot of work that's going to have to go into his game. It all comes down to coachability with him. He's never going to be a Selke candidate but he has to round out his overall game better than it is now. He's not a dynamic puck carrier, not flashy... but he sits in the circle and - bang! - it's in the net.

I totally get why some people don't want anything to do with him. But to me, if you round out his game a little, he could be a lethal part of the attack. Everyone needs goals and that's what he provides. The best comparable I can think of is Brett Hull. An incomplete player but a guy who can score in bunches.

I actually don’t get why people don’t want to draft Eiserman at 5-9 if Lindstrom is taken before then. He’s been an elite goal scorer at every level, since he was 11. He’ll continue that in the NHL. And he’s big enough. His ability to score from anywhere inside the blue line is a phenomenon.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Is he taking poor angles because of the ice size difference/faster game?

No because he had those issues this season in the NLA too

It's mostly a timing thing as he should have the athleticism and reach to get better

But right now his offensive potential is more encouraging than his defensive potential

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Great.

But that doesn’t mean you have to draft an asshole bully. It doesn’t mean you have to draft a guy who wound up moving from team to team… shat in someone’s hockey bag and thought it would be funny to take a pic with a swazitka.

You want to say he’s young and shouldn’t be ‘canceled’? Okay. But he’s not owed anything either. No NHL team owes it to him to draft him. I sure as hell wouldn’t want him around my team. And I can tell you that if I acted like an asshole with my colleagues, then I’m not going to be working there very long.

You can blame youth for a stupid mistake. If it was just the swaztika thing then maybe it could be overlooked if he demonstrated that he was sorry. But this guy is a disaster wherever he’s gone.

Nobody owes him a career. If he’s going to be an asshole he shouldn’t be surprised if people treat him like one.

The Canadiens are building a good culture right now. They seem to be tight and I think everyone wants to maintain that momentum. MSL has told CC and Suzuki “It’s your house. Up to you how you want to build it.” I see no reason why we’d insert some jackass into the mix right now. It’s drama we don’t need and there’s no reason to go down that path.

At the end of the day drafting is hiring. If a candidate shows up with THAT WORK RESUME, you don’t hire them. Period. Some need to see that. It’s not just who has the best stats