Toggle sidebar

HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

  • Work is still on-going to rebuild the site styling and features. Please report any issues you may experience so we can look into it. Click Here for Updates

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • Total voters
    422
Status
Not open for further replies.
Reader mode
MarkovsKnee said:
I mean I generally love St. Louis analysis, but his mention of his lack of physical play is almost laughable. It's like one sentence at the end of the video, which you almost can't hear. Lol

He definitely only goes over Catton's highlights. He's a rush player, and he's really good at it.
Click to expand...
Cam Robinson, who works for EP with David, really likes Catton but he also expressed his concern for his lack of physical play. “He’s a little small and doesn’t attack the middle of the ice”
 
le_sean said:
Cam Robinson, who works for EP with David, really likes Catton but he also expressed his concern for his lack of physical play. “He’s a little small and doesn’t attack the middle of the ice”
Click to expand...

They had him neck and neck with Iginla and decided to put Iginla ahead. I have no problem with that. If Iginla Demidov and Lindstrom are gone though, Catton remains the best choice of the remaining forwards.

Unless you like floors with Helenius or the one tool for Eiserman. But I'd reiterate that Catton despite being smaller is the far more competitive and inside driven player between Him and Eiserman.

Catton is also a great PK player so there's defensive ability there despite the moments on defense he's conserving energy to play 30na night.
 
  • Like
Reactions: habsfan891, MarkovsKnee, McGees and 1 other person
WeThreeKings said:
They had him neck and neck with Iginla and decided to put Iginla ahead. I have no problem with that. If Iginla Demidov and Lindstrom are gone though, Catton remains the best choice of the remaining forwards.

Unless you like floors with Helenius or the one tool for Eiserman. But I'd reiterate that Catton despite being smaller is the far more competitive and inside driven player between Him and Eiserman.

Catton is also a great PK player so there's defensive ability there despite the moments on defense he's conserving energy to play 30na night.
Click to expand...
I mean he clearly goes to the middle in transition when he does his outside-in move. It’s that he’s not going inside when his team has possession in the zone. I guess it really depends on the type of team you want. I’m so used to the Habs prioritizing the guys that “get you through” as opposed to the guys that “get you there” that I don’t see it being a fit. He seems like a Sens player, that Stutzle model.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Goldthorpe, jaffy27 and MarkovsKnee
le_sean said:
I mean he clearly goes to the middle in transition when he does his outside-in move. It’s that he’s not going inside when his team has possession in the zone. I guess it really depends on the type of team you want. I’m so used to the Habs prioritizing the guys that “get you through” as opposed to the guys that “get you there” that I don’t see it being a fit. He seems like a Sens player, that Stutzle model.
Click to expand...

At some point you gotta go with the most talented guy and if he's coachable. He takes space, I've seen him open up space and get inside plenty. He doesn't do it like a power forward no.

Like unless you believe in Helenius offensive upside, which I don't really, what are you gonna do? There's not an inside ice offensive player left worth that level of pick.

Plus Parekh isn't a physical guy either. So at some point you need to just take upside and let Nicholas work with these kids. Coach ability and malleable will matter
 
  • Like
Reactions: habsfan891
WeThreeKings said:
At some point you gotta go with the most talented guy and if he's coachable. He takes space, I've seen him open up space and get inside plenty. He doesn't do it like a power forward no.

Like unless you believe in Helenius offensive upside, which I don't really, what are you gonna do? There's not an inside ice offensive player left worth that level of pick.

Plus Parekh isn't a physical guy either. So at some point you need to just take upside and let Nicholas work with these kids. Coach ability and malleable will matter
Click to expand...
Well that’s why they go with Grant’s boy Sennecke at 7 :sarcasm:
 
le_sean said:
I mean he clearly goes to the middle in transition when he does his outside-in move. It’s that he’s not going inside when his team has possession in the zone. I guess it really depends on the type of team you want. I’m so used to the Habs prioritizing the guys that “get you through” as opposed to the guys that “get you there” that I don’t see it being a fit. He seems like a Sens player, that Stutzle model.
Click to expand...

The thing about Catton is how much does his lack of physical strength affect his overall game? He goes to the boards, but he attacks from behind hoping to poke the puck free or lift a stick to steal. He doesn't hit at all. Everything is about attacking the puck/stick.

It could be a confidence thing where he knows he can't win a board battle, so he uses other methods. If he gains strength does he get more involved?

He's not a wimp. He stands up for himself and teammates. My preference is Iginla, but if Arizona picks before us, I can actually see them taking him.

If it goes like this:

1. San Jose: Celebrini
2. Chicago: Levshunov
3. Anaheim: Demidov
4. Columbus: Lindstrom
5. Arizona: Iginla
6. Ottawa: Buium, Dickinson or Silayev
7. Montreal:

Catton, Eiserman or Helenius are next up. It's possible we also see what we could get on a trade down, as 2 of Buium, Dickinson & Silayev are going to be there.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kent Nilsson and Leto
MarkovsKnee said:
The thing about Catton is how much does his lack of physical strength affect his overall game? He goes to the boards, but he attacks from behind hoping to poke the puck free or lift a stick to steal. He doesn't hit at all. Everything is about attacking the puck/stick.

It could be a confidence thing where he knows he can't win a board battle, so he uses other methods. If he gains strength does he get more involved?

He's not a wimp. He stands up for himself and teammates. My preference is Iginla, but if Arizona picks before us, I can actually see them taking him.

If it goes like this:

1. San Jose: Celebrini
2. Chicago: Levshunov
3. Anaheim: Demidov
4. Columbus: Lindstrom
5. Arizona: Iginla
6. Ottawa: Buium, Dickinson or Silayev
7. Montreal:

Catton, Eiserman or Helenius are next up. It's possible we also see what we could get on a trade down, as 2 of Buium, Dickinson & Silayev are going to be there.
Click to expand...
catton
 
MarkovsKnee said:
The thing about Catton is how much does his lack of physical strength affect his overall game? He goes to the boards, but he attacks from behind hoping to poke the puck free or lift a stick to steal. He doesn't hit at all. Everything is about attacking the puck/stick.

It could be a confidence thing where he knows he can't win a board battle, so he uses other methods. If he gains strength does he get more involved?

He's not a wimp. He stands up for himself and teammates. My preference is Iginla, but if Arizona picks before us, I can actually see them taking him.

If it goes like this:

1. San Jose: Celebrini
2. Chicago: Levshunov
3. Anaheim: Demidov
4. Columbus: Lindstrom
5. Arizona: Iginla
6. Ottawa: Buium, Dickinson or Silayev
7. Montreal:

Catton, Eiserman or Helenius are next up. It's possible we also see what we could get on a trade down, as 2 of Buium, Dickinson & Silayev are going to be there.
Click to expand...
I really don’t see four of the first five picks being forwards. There will be a run on defence given that’s the premium. Always will be.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Benstheman and Schooner Guy
MarkovsKnee said:
The thing about Catton is how much does his lack of physical strength affect his overall game? He goes to the boards, but he attacks from behind hoping to poke the puck free or lift a stick to steal. He doesn't hit at all. Everything is about attacking the puck/stick.

It could be a confidence thing where he knows he can't win a board battle, so he uses other methods. If he gains strength does he get more involved?

He's not a wimp. He stands up for himself and teammates. My preference is Iginla, but if Arizona picks before us, I can actually see them taking him.

If it goes like this:

1. San Jose: Celebrini
2. Chicago: Levshunov
3. Anaheim: Demidov
4. Columbus: Lindstrom
5. Arizona: Iginla
6. Ottawa: Buium, Dickinson or Silayev
7. Montreal:

Catton, Eiserman or Helenius are next up. It's possible we also see what we could get on a trade down, as 2 of Buium, Dickinson & Silayev are going to be there.
Click to expand...
Maybe Timmins pushes CBJ to go for his favorite American Dman...leaving us Lindstrom or Iggy
 
  • Like
Reactions: MarkovsKnee
austin316 said:
I really don’t see four of the first five picks being forwards. There will be a run on defence given that’s the premium. Always will be.
Click to expand...

Seth Jones was supposed to go #2 in his draft. He fell to 4th. No one expected Gauthier to go before Jiricek. Defense tends to drop. Forwards, especially centers rise on draft day.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Doublechin
McGees said:
Maybe Timmins pushes CBJ to go for his favorite American Dman...leaving us Lindstrom or Iggy
Click to expand...

Yeah, if we finish 7th - behind Ottawa and Arizona then we need 3D to go in front of us if we want one of: Lindstrom, Iginla or Demidov. Our best bets are Chicago and Ottawa. After that one of Columbus, Anaheim or Arizona also need to take a D.
 
MarkovsKnee said:
The thing about Catton is how much does his lack of physical strength affect his overall game? He goes to the boards, but he attacks from behind hoping to poke the puck free or lift a stick to steal. He doesn't hit at all. Everything is about attacking the puck/stick.

It could be a confidence thing where he knows he can't win a board battle, so he uses other methods. If he gains strength does he get more involved?

He's not a wimp. He stands up for himself and teammates. My preference is Iginla, but if Arizona picks before us, I can actually see them taking him.

If it goes like this:

1. San Jose: Celebrini
2. Chicago: Levshunov
3. Anaheim: Demidov
4. Columbus: Lindstrom
5. Arizona: Iginla
6. Ottawa: Buium, Dickinson or Silayev
7. Montreal:

Catton, Eiserman or Helenius are next up. It's possible we also see what we could get on a trade down, as 2 of Buium, Dickinson & Silayev are going to be there.
Click to expand...
OTT is not taking a LD in my opinion. RD will be their target, or a forward if their choice is gone

MarkovsKnee said:
Seth Jones was supposed to go #2 in his draft. He fell to 4th. No one expected Gauthier to go before Jiricek. Defense tends to drop. Forwards, especially centers rise on draft day.
Click to expand...
I disagree : recent drafts have shown teams don t heistate to reach for Dmen.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Frank JT
MarkovsKnee said:
The thing about Catton is how much does his lack of physical strength affect his overall game? He goes to the boards, but he attacks from behind hoping to poke the puck free or lift a stick to steal. He doesn't hit at all. Everything is about attacking the puck/stick.

It could be a confidence thing where he knows he can't win a board battle, so he uses other methods. If he gains strength does he get more involved?

He's not a wimp. He stands up for himself and teammates. My preference is Iginla, but if Arizona picks before us, I can actually see them taking him.

If it goes like this:

1. San Jose: Celebrini
2. Chicago: Levshunov
3. Anaheim: Demidov
4. Columbus: Lindstrom
5. Arizona: Iginla
6. Ottawa: Buium, Dickinson or Silayev
7. Montreal:

Catton, Eiserman or Helenius are next up. It's possible we also see what we could get on a trade down, as 2 of Buium, Dickinson & Silayev are going to be there.
Click to expand...

That would be an absolute fail and sad.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Leto
McGees said:
I think this is the very likely scenario.
We are trending for 6-8 slot and I could easily see the top 4 forwards being gone - leaving the choice between Catton/Helenius/Eiserman/Defence
Click to expand...
It's Catton then depends on the defenseman to me I have very little interest in Helenius
 
MarkovsKnee said:
Seth Jones was supposed to go #2 in his draft. He fell to 4th. No one expected Gauthier to go before Jiricek. Defense tends to drop. Forwards, especially centers rise on draft day.
Click to expand...
Well if some of these elite D drop during draft day to 6-8 overall (which I don’t see happening) we will be in a great position to add a coveted #1 defensemen to our group.
 
EP Rinkside's last video they said that the top forwards have been rising more than the D as the year has progressed, so this 'D filled draft' isn't shaping up that way anymore.
They have only Levshunov and Parekh in their top 7.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MarkovsKnee
McGees said:
EP Rinkside's last video they said that the top forwards have been rising more than the D as the year has progressed, so this 'D filled draft' isn't shaping up that way anymore.
They have only Levshunov and Parekh in their top 7.
Click to expand...

EP is always forward leaning and aren't really scout connected. What they believe may not be shared by NHL teams.
 
  • Like
Reactions: habsfan891, Estimated_Prophet, badfish and 3 others
Reader mode
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Top Bottom