HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

  • Total voters
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DiglettDangles

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I doubt MBN/Sennecke will be there at Winnipeg's pick.
@Naslund didn't say how to get them.
I think we have enough picks and Barron/Harris type prospects to get us into the late teens from 24 (e.g. Vegas might want picks after trading them all away), and I believe that should be prioritized.
There's also going to be Basha, Boisvert, Greentree, Hemming and a few Russians in that area but I feel like we might like MBN/Sennecke a bit more than the above.
 
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CDN24

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Pretty sure 3 Ds are being picked in the top 5. And if Habs are set on a Lindstrom or Iginla type player, one of them will definitely be there for us unless we pick 8OA.
I think there are teams that will pick BPA because they need everything, there are teams like us who would prefer a F and there are teams that should pick a D man everything else being equal. There should be a good F when we pick, what could upset that? If one of those D first teams wins the lottery and takes Celebrinni then there is probably one more F drafted before us that there would otherwise be.

IMO
San Jose and hawks need everything so they take best player available in their view.
Anaheim and Ottawa probably prefer a D man (lost a d and added a F in that trade with Philly) Ottawa's biggest whole is on RD
Given the amount of D they have CBJ probably prefers a F but who knows they may move a D prospect before the draft to.
Coyotes took a D last year but who knows- they have so many picks its they probably go BPA but it may6 be a D.

Worst case for us, Anaheim or Ottawa wins the lottery and does not take a D. I think us drafting after Ottawa, unless Ottawa is 1st overall has no impact- they will take a RD.
 
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FrankMTL

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Would need for Winnipeg to lose a couple and fall behind Toronto and Edmonton (they're both 1 point back of Winnipeg, with Edmonton having a game in hand). That would give us potentially pick 23. After that we would just need the Jets to lose in one of the two first rounds and hope that Tampa faces Las Vegas in the finals and boom, pick number 21. :naughty::laugh:
 

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Would need for Winnipeg to lose a couple and fall behind Toronto and Edmonton (they're both 1 point back of Winnipeg, with Edmonton having a game in hand). That would give us potentially pick 23. After that we would just need the Jets to lose in one of the two first rounds and hope that Tampa faces Las Vegas in the finals and boom, pick number 21. :naughty::laugh:
I really hope we package that Winnipeg pick to try to move up and grab another one of the "top" forwards in this draft. If we could somehow walk away with 1 of Demidov/Catton/Lindstrom/Iginla and one of Eiserman/Helenius/Greentree/etc then that would do wonders in rounding out or future top 6.

Outside of Suzuki, Slaf and Caufield our top 6 is full of question marks. I have no doubt Dach will be part of it IF he can stay healthy. Roy has potential, but I'm not fully sold on him yet. Newhook would ideally be a 3rd line guy going forward imo, and the rest of our forward prospect pool doesn't appear to have a sure fire top 6 talent as it stands.
 

FrankMTL

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I really hope we package that Winnipeg pick to try to move up and grab another one of the "top" forwards in this draft. If we could somehow walk away with 1 of Demidov/Catton/Lindstrom/Iginla and one of Eiserman/Helenius/Greentree/etc then that would do wonders in rounding out or future top 6.

Outside of Suzuki, Slaf and Caufield our top 6 is full of question marks. I have no doubt Dach will be part of it IF he can stay healthy. Roy has potential, but I'm not fully sold on him yet. Newhook would ideally be a 3rd line guy going forward imo, and the rest of our forward prospect pool doesn't appear to have a sure fire top 6 talent as it stands.

You'd have to hope that one of the top forwards slides and becomes available somewhere between 17-20. Otherwise, it will be very pricey to move up and I wouldn't sacrifice the Calgary first rounder next season. Maybe hope that the Winnipeg first and a young dman (Barron or Harris more than likely) is enough to move up a few spots if they really have their eye on somebody.
 

WeThreeKings

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You'd have to hope that one of the top forwards slides and becomes available somewhere between 17-20. Otherwise, it will be very pricey to move up and I wouldn't sacrifice the Calgary first rounder next season. Maybe hope that the Winnipeg first and a young dman (Barron or Harris more than likely) is enough to move up a few spots if they really have their eye on somebody.

The Arizona Coyotes selected Conor Geekie with the 11th overall pick in the 2022 NHL Draft.

Arizona traded up to acquire Geekie's services, sending the 27th, 34th, and 45th overall picks to the San Jose Sharks in exchange for the No. 11 selection.

21-23 would have more value up front, so if the Habs could give up the Avs 2nd and their future 2nd to a team, they could likely get between 12-16.
 

WeThreeKings

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I'd do that deal in a heartbeat if a team in that range was interested. We're at the point now where we need quality over quantity, especially up front.

I agree totally.

So if we see a faller like Benson was last year, they should be aggressive in pursuing that.

We have a high volume of picks and we can certainly give up some young NHL defenseman in Harris, Struble or Barron.
 

26Mats

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Never heard this story before. But it's another case of the dangers of drafting based on need.

At the 2006 draft table, Andre Savard was vehemently arguing to take Giroux when he was available to us at 20th overall. Another person high up (not Timmins) was vehemently arguing for David Fischer. Gainey steped in and said, if you guys can't decide, take the big defenseman over the small forward. We have enough small forwards and not enough dmen.

 
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bcv

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Never heard this story before. But it's another case of the dangers of drafting based on need.

At the 2006 draft table, Andre Savard was vehemently arguing to take Giroux when he was available to us at 20th overall. Another person high up (not Timmins) was vehemently arguing for David Fischer. Gainey steped in and said, if you guys can't decide, take the big defenseman over the small forward. We have enough small forwards and not enough dmen.


The way you describe it, it does not fit drafting by need. The need was the tie-breaker, which makes perfect sense.
 
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26Mats

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The way you describe it, it does not fit drafting by need. The need was the tie-breaker, which makes perfect sense.
Putting aside whether need should be a tie breaker, if it isn't the tie breaker don't do it!

If Catton is the next Claude Giroux and he's the top player on your list, take him, even though he's a 5'll center.
 
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Rozz

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here's my updated wish list

Celebrini

Demidov

Catton
Iginla <--- these 3 are VERY close
Lindstrom

Levshunov
Eiserman
Parekh
Helenius
Buium
Dickinson

My question for jets pick is who has the highest offensive potential in that range? I'm open minded as for who to pick in that range as I know very little of those guys...so please, sell me your guys!! lol
 

Apfel Struble

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In the eventuality that the Habs win the lottery and then most likely pick Celebrini, what kind of player is he?

What kind of game does he play, would he be a center or winger long term, is he a playmaker, scorer or more hybrid of a player?
 
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Never heard this story before. But it's another case of the dangers of drafting based on need.

At the 2006 draft table, Andre Savard was vehemently arguing to take Giroux when he was available to us at 20th overall. Another person high up (not Timmins) was vehemently arguing for David Fischer. Gainey steped in and said, if you guys can't decide, take the big defenseman over the small forward. We have enough small forwards and not enough dmen.



Goes to show how well put together the scouting department needs to be. Realistically, GMs have only so much time to pay attention to draft eligibles when they have multiple rosters to run themselves, more or less.

I can only give my outside observations regarding the current drafting team, but I can say that previous Habs scouting squads had questionable "real" scouts based on the stories I've heard. We may dunk on independent scout services and amateurs; there were some real dumbbells making cases in those draft rooms back then.
 

BergevinBurner

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In the eventuality that the Habs win the lottery and then most likely pick Celebrini, what kind of player is he?

What kind of game does he play, would he be a center or winger long term, is he a playmaker, scorer or more hybrid of a player?
IMO he's 100% going to be a center at the NHL level no matter which team picks him and he'll probably end up as the 1C on whatever team he goes to, except maybe Chicago or New Jersey if they win the lottery. I see him being similar to Toews, but with more of a goal scoring touch.
 

Hannibal

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Look how he navigates in traffic and his board play. Jesus, he’s impressive. So strong already for his young age.

I dont know how this organisation would pass on him for Catton.
 
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jaffy27

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Nah. The time is now to add to the current roster. I’d rather use that to get someone like Necas than someone that is 2-4 years away.
I’m on that train!!

Winnipeg 1st, the later of next year’s 1st and either a BARON/MESAR/2nd round pick would probably do the trick.

We have tons of picks!….plus next year, we’ll be in position to trade Savard, Armia, Dvorak, Kovacevic for yet more picks, 1st and 2nd’s for sure!!


Slaf-Suzuki-Necas
Demidov/Lindstrom/Iginla-Dach-Caufield

Now that’s a top 6 I’m willing to roll with!


Look how he navigates in traffic and his board play. Jesus, he’s impressive. So strong already for his young age.

I dont know how this organisation would pass on him for Catton.
f*** he’s tenacious on that puck
 
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