HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Doublechin]

It was before the pick. Tkachuk had 8 goals in his draft year and people thought he was just a grinder. It was a very popular opinion. Almost nobody on this board was advocating for Tkachuk to be our pick. It was KK, Boqvist, Zadina and Hughes that were mostly talked about here.

Gotta add a name to the hat from my POV back then, Dobson

 

[HuGort]

Yes, most people definitely wanted Zadina.

Check out this poll on the main boards. The results weren't particularly close.

Who is the 3rd best prospect in the 2018 draft class?

With Dahlin and Svechnikov pretty much being the consensus best and 2nd best prospects in this draft class, who do you feel the 3rd best prospect is?

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Yup, Habs poster named Suzuki, did say he's torn between Zadina or Dobson though. He's only one here though. Rest was either KK or Zadina

 

[Habs Icing]

Passing on Bobby Orr for D’Agostini is not smart. Drafting Mike Weaver instead of Selanne is also not how you build a team.



Just my 2 cents.

Considering Bobby was 60 when D'Agostino was drafted and limping on two nonexistent knees, it would not be smart to draft Orr.

A penny for my thought.

 

[Wats]

This draft seems to have a lot of high upside D. Would be interesting to see if Habs end up taking a F.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Of course not, they're no Jordan Weal or Reid Boucher.

Of course they aren't, or you really think any of them is able to score 67 points in 53 AHL games?

 

[Seb]

This draft seems to have a lot of high upside D. Would be interesting to see if Habs end up taking a F.

There's also a few high upside F and they're most likely going to be available. It's a no brainer IMO and I don't want to hear about BPA, it's very subjective and and this tier they're pretty much interchangeable.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Don't think you play Celebrini on the 3rd line at all, I think he replaces Caufield on LW of the first line and PP.

1st line LW would be fine. On the PP though, Newhook would be replaced. No way you remove CC with the man advantage.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

There's also a few high upside F and they're most likely going to be available. It's a no brainer IMO and I don't want to hear about BPA, it's very subjective and and this tier they're pretty much interchangeable.

One way or another we’re getting a forward. If we were to somehow get the 2nd overall, I could see us trading down to 5th or sixth to let other clubs draft blueliners.

Lots of interesting and really different forwards and blueliners will likely go first. Good scenario for us.

Still hoping for Eiserman. Having two snipers would be terrific.

 

[jaffy27]

Agree but in the case of Bergevin, its not that what he said was bad, its how he acted it.

How can you value leadership and attitude and end up with player like Galchenyuk, Beaulieu? KK over Tkachuk?

Lamoriello drafted Mike Danton…..go figure

 

[WeThreeKings]

Of course they aren't, or you really think any of them is able to score 67 points in 53 AHL games?

When did Michkov do this?

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I have watched a few clip of Eiserman and I believe he would be hated by the Montreal fanbase. He is basically always looking to shot the puck and get open but never track back or put any effort retrieving the puck. My comparison is Mike Hoffman with a better shot.

I mean people say Caufield is unidimensional goalscore but he is clearly not as static as Eiserman is and he is miles more involved in the offensive zone. They have nothing in common other than having a lethal shot.

 

[SOLR]

1st line LW would be fine. On the PP though, Newhook would be replaced. No way you remove CC with the man advantage.

Roles: Celebrini is a better shooter than Caufield, and has other options, unlike Caufield. And then Caufield can't really be used in the front of the net.

Now, you could make the point that Slaf is the one that should sit; since Celebrini slides most naturally on that side, then you have a competition between Newhook and Slaf for the front of the net; that one is not as obvious as it looks, at least right now.

 

[bcv]

I have watched a few clip of Eiserman and I believe he would be hated by the Montreal fanbase. He is basically always looking to shot the puck and get open but never track back or put any effort retrieving the puck. My comparison is Mike Hoffman with a better shot.

I mean people say Caufield is unidimensional goalscore but he is clearly not as static as Eiserman is and he is miles more involved in the offensive zone. They have nothing in common other than having a lethal shot.

He does, and he's good at it, he's just very inconsistent with it.

This is a coachable "issue" but we just don't have the ressources to know if he's coachable. So, if the Habs pick him, I'm expecting big things from him since they've known him a long time.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Of course not, they're no Jordan Weal or Reid Boucher.

Yeah and Reinbacher is no Anthony Huguenin

 

[Colezuki]

Yup, Habs poster named Suzuki, did say he's torn between Zadina or Dobson though. He's only one here though. Rest was either KK or Zadina

I wanted KK because i wanted the center, But also was cool with Tkachuk or Zadina, but it was like
1. KK
2. Zadina
3. Tkachuk

 

[Kshahdoo]

When did Michkov do this?

Michkov scored 41 points in 46 games in the KHL which is tougher than AHL. In the season when he had 4 illnesses during the regular, including pneumonia.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Yeah and Reinbacher is no Anthony Huguenin

Might wanna read the conversation before jumping in.

Michkov scored 41 points in 46 games in the KHL which is tougher than AHL. In the season when he had 4 illnesses during the regular, including pneumonia.

Eh no it really isn't anymore. The KHL is not what it was before which is why the point totals are higher in that league than you'd see historically.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Roles: Celebrini is a better shooter than Caufield, and has other options, unlike Caufield. And then Caufield can't really be used in the front of the net.

Now, you could make the point that Slaf is the one that should sit; since Celebrini slides most naturally on that side, then you have a competition between Newhook and Slaf for the front of the net; that one is not as obvious as it looks, at least right now.

You sit Newhook. No brainer.

 

[teamfirst]

Eh no it really isn't anymore. The KHL is not what it was before which is why the point totals are higher in that league than you'd see historically.

Would it be more like the SHL level

 

[JC Superstar]

Considering Bobby was 60 when D'Agostino was drafted and limping on two nonexistent knees, it would not be smart to draft Orr.

A penny for my thought.

Bobby Orr was drafted in 2021 by Carolina.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Yup, Habs poster named Suzuki, did say he's torn between Zadina or Dobson though. He's only one here though. Rest was either KK or Zadina

Nope, I wanted Dobson. You can check our own poll. Something like only 8 people voted for Dobson, and I was one of them. We had Weber & Petry at the time, so people didn't want another RD. I was like, yeah, but they're old. Lol

This is why you don't draft based on position. The year we drafted Price, we were seriously deep at goaltending in the organization. It was the right call, though.

Dobson would have been sweet.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Would it be more like the SHL level

Probably on par with the SHL and Finnish leagues now.. it's not what it once was, and you'd rarely see anyone get the ice time Michkov has gotten in Sochi either.

There's a lot of context and nuance there to his numbers and the analytics on the KHL are still carried by previous years of it being stingier, more competitive, more talented, and more old school in the deployment of young players.

It's not to take away from him - obviously you want your guys to produce and he's producing. But the whole point was are there players like Michkov available in this draft, and there are, will they ever produce as much as him, who knows, but a small scoring winger isn't a difficult archetype to find and the generational talent talk on Michkov is barely more relevant than it would be for Shane Wright.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Roles: Celebrini is a better shooter than Caufield, and has other options, unlike Caufield. And then Caufield can't really be used in the front of the net.

Now, you could make the point that Slaf is the one that should sit; since Celebrini slides most naturally on that side, then you have a competition between Newhook and Slaf for the front of the net; that one is not as obvious as it looks, at least right now.

I like Newhook, but he isn't that good. Slafkovsky is a far better player now & in the future. I'm really not worried about it. Chances are high we don't draft Celebrini.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I have watched a few clip of Eiserman and I believe he would be hated by the Montreal fanbase. He is basically always looking to shot the puck and get open but never track back or put any effort retrieving the puck. My comparison is Mike Hoffman with a better shot.

I mean people say Caufield is unidimensional goalscore but he is clearly not as static as Eiserman is and he is miles more involved in the offensive zone. They have nothing in common other than having a lethal shot.

Yeah, that’s not good. But Hoffman was never as highly touted as Eiserman. Eiserman sounds like he’s in the Brett Hull vein of players. Not a complete player but can score buckets of goals.

Again, I’ll leave it up to the scouts. He has decent size, can skate and pass. Just a really selfish player by all accounts. The question is really - how coachable is he? The guy can obviously shoot and that can’t be taught but the rest can. But if he doesn’t have any heart or motor, that’s concerning.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Nope, I wanted Dobson. You can check our own poll. Something like only 8 people voted for Dobson, and I was one of them. We had Weber & Petry at the time, so people didn't want another RD. I was like, yeah, but they're old. Lol

This is why you don't draft based on position. The year we drafted Price, we were seriously deep at goaltending in the organization. It was the right call, though.

Dobson would have been sweet.

Dobson was way overlooked and that miss is the reason why I am very interested in Dickinson this year. Effective, reliable defensively, with physical tools are so important.