HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

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The Last Red

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I have watched a few clip of Eiserman and I believe he would be hated by the Montreal fanbase. He is basically always looking to shot the puck and get open but never track back or put any effort retrieving the puck. My comparison is Mike Hoffman with a better shot.

I mean people say Caufield is unidimensional goalscore but he is clearly not as static as Eiserman is and he is miles more involved in the offensive zone. They have nothing in common other than having a lethal shot.
Jay Pandolfo will straighten him out next year at Boston University. If we're drafting 7-9, and he's still there, he will be the pick. His ability to shoot and score from anywhere inside the blue line is not teachable. Everything else is.
 
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KevSkillz4

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Can’t imagine him and caufield in the slot on opposite sides. Amazing.

Yes. With Eiserman, the top 6 will look very very good for many years to come. I will see him with Suzuki.

Eiserman - Suzuki - Roy.
Slaf - Dach - Caufield.

Caufield will shine more with 2 big players like Slaf and Dach. Eiserman with 2 players with great playmaking ability and strong two-way game aswell.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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Yes. With Eiserman, the top 6 will look very very good for many years to come. I will see him with Suzuki.

Eiserman - Suzuki - Roy.
Slaf - Dach - Caufield.

Caufield will shine more with 2 big players like Slaf and Dach. Eiserman with 2 players with great playmaking ability and strong two-way game aswell.
Those are the lines I could see as well. Pretty good top six assuming they can develop Eiserman properly.
 

KevSkillz4

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Those are the lines I could see as well. Pretty good top six assuming they can develop Eiserman properly.

Yes, I think Roy will show even more his talent with a player like Suzuki. Suzuki will the perfect teacher for him, like Monahan did to him.

Eiserman with a good development, he is going to be a impact offensive player, for sure. He just need to be better in details of the game, that's easily can be better for him in few years. The offensive talent, he have already that and he is going to fun to watch. Hands, shot, stickhandling... elite.
 

teamfirst

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Two guys who are six feet and one who’s 5’11?

I'm really intrigue by this Eiserman kid, goal scoring is something that cannot be teach and to see that he is 4th on McKenzie's list , hard to think he could be as bad as some say's here
 

WeThreeKings

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I'm really intrigue by this Eiserman kid, goal scoring is something that cannot be teach and to see that he is 4th on McKenzie's list , hard to think he could be as bad as some say's here

He won't be 4th in the final rankings, the question will be - is he even in the top 10?
 

teamfirst

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He won't be 4th in the final rankings, the question will be - is he even in the top 10?

Never saw him play so i can't really know but Bob's list are ''normaly'' pretty assurate i think and it's the one from January......but like i said i'm just going by stats and Bob's list
 

WeThreeKings

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Never saw him play so i can't really know but Bob's list are ''normaly'' pretty assurate i think and it's the one from January......but like i said i'm just going by stats and Bob's list

His final list is the most accurate one.. the january to final rankings have the most variance, the reason for that is the pre-season rankings are set and it takes awhile for the scouting community to react to the changes.. and since things like the WJC, playoffs, U18s get weighed a lot by scouts, it changes things around.

Reinbacher shot up a lot at the end.
 
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le_sean

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I’m always wary of drafting kids like Eiserman who drop in rankings throughout the year. Scouts are seeing red flags while he’s under more spotlight. Yeah he has an elite skill that is important to have - the shooting - but it’s just that, one skill. I’d rather not pick a heavily flawed player in the top 10. It’s basically the opposite of what they did in picking Slaf who had all of the tools but lacked production. You can develop that. Eiserman doesn’t seem to have the physical capabilities to do the same, maybe he can work on the mental part (drive, effort). Caufield, a sniper like Eiserman, always had the drive.
 

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If the average is 6’1” then it’s not an “average” sized line by definition.
The average height for NHL forwards is 6'0, so 6'1 is average at worst, and taller than average at best.

I’m always wary of drafting kids like Eiserman who drop in rankings throughout the year. Scouts are seeing red flags while he’s under more spotlight. Yeah he has an elite skill that is important to have - the shooting - but it’s just that, one skill. I’d rather not pick a heavily flawed player in the top 10. It’s basically the opposite of what they did in picking Slaf who had all of the tools but lacked production. You can develop that. Eiserman doesn’t seem to have the physical capabilities to do the same, maybe he can work on the mental part (drive, effort). Caufield always had the drive.
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Lafleurs Guy

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I’m always wary of drafting kids like Eiserman who drop in rankings throughout the year. Scouts are seeing red flags while he’s under more spotlight. Yeah he has an elite skill that is important to have - the shooting - but it’s just that, one skill. I’d rather not pick a heavily flawed player in the top 10. It’s basically the opposite of what they did in picking Slaf who had all of the tools but lacked production. You can develop that. Eiserman doesn’t seem to have the physical capabilities to do the same, maybe he can work on the mental part (drive, effort). Caufield, a sniper like Eiserman, always had the drive.
The physical part is not a problem. His skating is reported to be good as is his passing ability.

The problem is that he’s selfish. He’s not doing the job defensively and isn’t passing the puck. And that is a legit reason to not draft him.

What the scouts need to figure out is if this stuff can be corrected. But the talent - and upside is there.
 
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MarkovsKnee

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Dobson was way overlooked and that miss is the reason why I am very interested in Dickinson this year. Effective, reliable defensively, with physical tools are so important.

You can't know the future. You do not pick Dickinson because we have a lot of LDs. You don't play Dickinson in the NHL next year anyway. You take BPA, or who you think is BPA. The only time is if have 2 candidates who are pretty equal.
 

MarkovsKnee

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I’m always wary of drafting kids like Eiserman who drop in rankings throughout the year. Scouts are seeing red flags while he’s under more spotlight. Yeah he has an elite skill that is important to have - the shooting - but it’s just that, one skill. I’d rather not pick a heavily flawed player in the top 10. It’s basically the opposite of what they did in picking Slaf who had all of the tools but lacked production. You can develop that. Eiserman doesn’t seem to have the physical capabilities to do the same, maybe he can work on the mental part (drive, effort). Caufield, a sniper like Eiserman, always had the drive.

Eiserman isn't overly special in that area, which is also why he’s dropping. Lindstrom, Iginla, Catton, MBN, Hemming, Chernyshov & Boisvert are all goal scorers nevermind the defensemen like Yakemchuk. Why would you draft a one dimensional goal scorer when other players bring that same value and more multi-faceted games.
 

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Eiserman isn't overly special in that area, which is also why he’s dropping. Lindstrom, Iginla, Catton, MBN, Hemming, Chernyshov & Boisvert are all goal scorers nevermind the defensemen like Yakemchuk. Why would you draft a one dimensional goal scorer when other players bring that same value and more multi-faceted games.
you might not like Eiserman (not a huge fan either) but his goal scoring is elite, you can't take that away from him.
 
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