HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[ChesterNimitz]

Agreed. The only D i would be ok with drafting is Levshunov. I guess i would also be ok with Dickinson if Habs management sees Guhle on the right side long term but i doubt it.

I think Dickinson will be (should be) the first defenceman taken. If it’s us, I certainly wouldn’t complain.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I think Dickinson will be (should be) the first defence man taken. If it’s us, I certainly wouldn’t complain.

He is the no brainer defenseman to select. He will be a top pairing defenseman and maybe he could even play next season. If we do select him, I would trade one of Guhle or Matheson for a forward or another top pick

 

[The Last Red]

He is the no brainer defenseman to select. He will be a top pairing defenseman and maybe he could even play next season. If we do select him, I would trade one of Guhle or Matheson for a forward or another top pick

Yes, Guhle and him would be pretty redundant.

 

[The Last Red]

If Habs get the second pick they're drafting Lindstrom, you can take that to the bank. He'll be gone by 5 so things get trickier if we're not drafting top 2. I think Demidov will still be there at 5 but not sure we'd take him as there seems to be an aversion to drafting Russians high with the owneship consortium that owns this team. But at 6 or 7, they'd have a hard time justifying not taking him, it would be like a gift falling into their laps. And they're not taking a 5'10", 165 lbs. forward who's not an amazing skater in the top 9, no matter how many points he has in the WHL. So assuming we draft 5-9, outside chance of Demidov, possibly Buium (safer pick than Parekh but still with plenly of offensive skill), but I still think that Eiserman and Iginla are the most likely picks there (can't see Dickinson unless they have a trade worked our for Guhle as they're close to the same player just Dickinson is bigger).

 

[Habby4Life]

Parehk is a great gamble. I would be trilled. If so, I would eventualy possibly trade Hutson for a young top6 player.
At 6 or 7, I'm starting to like the option of Iginla, if he's there...

If they are 6 or 7, if they really like iginla they could trade down. Lots of options this year.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

(can't see Dickinson unless they have a trade worked our for Guhle as they're close to the same player just Dickinson is bigger).

Dickinson is significantly better though. I highly doubt he will drop the the Habs selection though. I assume he will be in discussion for 2nd or 3rd overall.

 

[The Last Red]

Dickinson is significantly better though. I highly doubt he will drop the the Habs selection though. I assume he will be in discussion for 2nd or 3rd overall.

We could draft second but no way we’d pass on Lindstrom there.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

We could draft second but no way we’d pass on Lindstrom there.

I would not be so sure. It is very clear in my head that all NHL teams will try to get their guy early in the draft. I would say with high probability that if the habs get 2nd overall they will either draft a RD or trade down a bit and draft a forward. There will be very HIGH demande for 2nd overall for a defenseman. Look at all the team in the bottom 5, they are in dire need of a #1 RD above all and this year there is one. Lindstrom is no Byfield, he has plenty of question mark and his injury record is not helping him, he will go high, no doubt but the bottom team will want their franchise defenseman at all cost. I would also say Parekh and Yakemchuk will go higher than projected in every mock draft.

 

[Mrb1p]

If were going LD I sure hope its Buium and not Dickinson. Buium brings something we don't have, aside from Hutson and he does so in a NHL package, as opposed to a munchkin one.

If Habs get the second pick they're drafting Lindstrom, you can take that to the bank. He'll be gone by 5 so things get trickier if we're not drafting top 2. I think Demidov will still be there at 5 but not sure we'd take him as there seems to be an aversion to drafting Russians high with the owneship consortium that owns this team. But at 6 or 7, they'd have a hard time justifying not taking him, it would be like a gift falling into their laps. And they're not taking a 5'10", 165 lbs. forward who's not an amazing skater in the top 9, no matter how many points he has in the WHL. So assuming we draft 5-9, outside chance of Demidov, possibly Buium (safer pick than Parekh but still with plenly of offensive skill), but I still think that Eiserman and Iginla are the most likely picks there (can't see Dickinson unless they have a trade worked our for Guhle as they're close to the same player just Dickinson is bigger).

They are both 6'3.

Dickinson is significantly better though. I highly doubt he will drop the the Habs selection though. I assume he will be in discussion for 2nd or 3rd overall.

No he's not significantly better than Guhle, at least not as he projects.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

If Habs get the second pick they're drafting Lindstrom, you can take that to the bank. He'll be gone by 5 so things get trickier if we're not drafting top 2. I think Demidov will still be there at 5 but not sure we'd take him as there seems to be an aversion to drafting Russians high with the owneship consortium that owns this team. But at 6 or 7, they'd have a hard time justifying not taking him, it would be like a gift falling into their laps. And they're not taking a 5'10", 165 lbs. forward who's not an amazing skater in the top 9, no matter how many points he has in the WHL. So assuming we draft 5-9, outside chance of Demidov, possibly Buium (safer pick than Parekh but still with plenly of offensive skill), but I still think that Eiserman and Iginla are the most likely picks there (can't see Dickinson unless they have a trade worked our for Guhle as they're close to the same player just Dickinson is bigger).

I don’t think you can take anything to the bank in this draft other than Celebrini going number one.

 

[Playmaker09]

Buium has the makings of an actual norris winning D. Its so tough to differenciate between him and Levshunov for me.

Levshunov to me is a pretty safe bet to be something like Sergachev or Hamilton. Tilts the ice in the right way but doesn't really have the motor or desire to be a legit #1 that makes life difficult for opposing stars to play against.

Zeev has a little competitive snarl that I like, obviously in addition to the four way mobility, puck skills, poise and high processing ability.

Dickinson is significantly better though. I highly doubt he will drop the the Habs selection though. I assume he will be in discussion for 2nd or 3rd overall.

I don't see a high-end processor in Dickinson, especially under pressure, and because of it I think Guhle's reliability is higher.
He is not the type of profile I like in a top pick and I think has a high chance to disappoint relative to expectations. I hope someone takes him before us.

 

[montreal]

not a lot of Artamonov (#79 white), not his best game as he looked disinterested in the 1st but after he got hit it seemed to wake him up a bit but he's facing the best goalie, defense and team in the MHL.

They said that the team sent Silayev home to rest. After that hit he took in the KHL playoffs I thought he blew his knee out so I was shocked when they sent him to the MHL playoffs but then I figured it must have just looked worse then it was.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Levshunov to me is a pretty safe bet to be something like Sergachev or Hamilton. Tilts the ice in the right way but doesn't really have the motor or desire to be a legit #1 that makes life difficult for opposing stars to play against.

Zeev has a little competitive snarl that I like, obviously in addition to the four way mobility, puck skills, poise and high processing ability.


I don't see a high-end processor in Dickinson, especially under pressure, and because of it I think Guhle's reliability is higher.
He is not the type of profile I like in a top pick and I think has a high chance to disappoint relative to expectations. I hope someone takes him before us.

Fair, this is still how you view it.

Now go see all other team prospect pool and current young players on all bottom teams the only team who have drafted top rated RD (top 10) the past few years are Montreal and Columbus.

As for Guhle vs Dickinson you are entitled to your opinion but to me it's not even really close at least at the same age of both prospect. Dickinson is way more polished than Guhle was coming out of his draft year, way more poise. That being said, safe prospect with easily projectable pro career like him will go very high to a team that need stability the most likely candidate are Chicago, San Jose or Columbus.

As for RD, you might find him as best case scenario as #2, that is a very fair projection but nowaday young #2 RD are VERY valuable. Look at the habs drafting one 5th overall with Arizona also highly interested in him at 6th overall. San Jose does not have that quality in their pool, neither do the blackhawks and the Senators. They will be way more valuable than the forward (After Macklin) look at last year forward pool way better than this year and many top forward prospect dropped lower than they were supposed to like Dvorsky and Benson while defenseman went surprisingly higher, I think this year will be very similar. With team focusing even more on defenseman since they all lack that quality in their prospect pool.

 

[Jaynki]

Only on HFHabs would we spite on a physical goalscoring 6ft4 top 6C because of his flaws, only to draft another player with flaws too right?

 

[bcv]

Only on HFHabs would we spite on a physical goalscoring 6ft4 top 6C because of his flaws, only to draft another player with flaws too right?

How dare we prefer other players.

 

[Jaynki]

How dare we prefer other players.

Well true.

Lets just not be too low on the asset we covet since more than two decades. We got Dach but we have to admit the injury are a concern.

 

[Zilo44]

Well true.

Lets just not be too low on the asset we covet since more than two decades. We got Dach but we have to admit the injury are a concern.

Plus I have never seen a team complain about having 3 6’4 forwards with skills in their top 6

 

[Rapala]

I'm starting to like the idea of taking Parekh if he's there at our pick. If we could run Hutson-Reinbacher and Guhle-Parekh as our top 4 in a few years then that could have the potential to be one of the most dangerous blue lines in the league and it'd give us a ton of flexibility on the powerplay and in overtime.

We should get a nice long look at Parekh in the post season.
His defensive liabilities will get exposed in a 7 game series but he may also be able to adjust his game some..
I remember watching Mailloux against PBO the OHL finals and he got exposed that series.
Actually many of us here thought Dickenson was the best Defender for London even then. (He Was)

I'm still wondering which Dmen could possibly sway us from selecting a forward.
If A guy like Sam Dickinson falls to 7th as per Bobby Mac's rankings it would be kind of hard to ignore.

Is this a draft where we should try to turn 31 into 20 in a deal with Calgary?

 

[le_sean]

We should get a nice long look at Parekh in the post season.
His defensive liabilities will get exposed in a 7 game series but he may also be able to adjust his game some..
I remember watching Mailloux against PBO the OHL finals and he got exposed that series.
Actually many of us here thought Dickenson was the best Defender for London even then. (He Was)

I'm still wondering which Dmen could possibly sway us from selecting a forward.
If A guy like Sam Dickinson falls to 7th as per Bobby Mac's rankings it would be kind of hard to ignore.

Is this a draft where we should try to turn 31 into 20 in a deal with Calgary?

Bobrov loves his Europeans and size. I think if there’s a defender he’d covet more than certain forwards at the top of the draft, it would be Silayev. We can talk about all of the LD we have on the team, but we don’t have one that is 6’7.

The only sticking point the Habs don’t seem to like right now is having another organization be in charge of his development.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Anybody know a comparable draft that had so many D going in the top 10? Surely they can't all be sure fire top 4 dmen in the nhl

 

[Sorinth]

Anybody know a comparable draft that had so many D going in the top 10? Surely they can't all be sure fire top 4 dmen in the nhl

2012 had 8 D drafted in the top 10

 

[The Last Red]

Bobrov loves his Europeans and size. I think if there’s a defender he’d covet more than certain forwards at the top of the draft, it would be Silayev. We can talk about all of the LD we have on the team, but we don’t have one that is 6’7.

The only sticking point the Habs don’t seem to like right now is having another organization be in charge of his development.

Yes, just look at his record with NYR and here so far in the first round with mid-high picks. If you think he’s taking a 5’10”, 165 lbs., player in the top 9, you’re not paying close enough attention.

 

[Mrb1p]

Fair, this is still how you view it.

Now go see all other team prospect pool and current young players on all bottom teams the only team who have drafted top rated RD (top 10) the past few years are Montreal and Columbus.

As for Guhle vs Dickinson you are entitled to your opinion but to me it's not even really close at least at the same age of both prospect. Dickinson is way more polished than Guhle was coming out of his draft year, way more poise. That being said, safe prospect with easily projectable pro career like him will go very high to a team that need stability the most likely candidate are Chicago, San Jose or Columbus.

As for RD, you might find him as best case scenario as #2, that is a very fair projection but nowaday young #2 RD are VERY valuable. Look at the habs drafting one 5th overall with Arizona also highly interested in him at 6th overall. San Jose does not have that quality in their pool, neither do the blackhawks and the Senators. They will be way more valuable than the forward (After Macklin) look at last year forward pool way better than this year and many top forward prospect dropped lower than they were supposed to like Dvorsky and Benson while defenseman went surprisingly higher, I think this year will be very similar. With team focusing even more on defenseman since they all lack that quality in their prospect pool.

You are right about Dickinson being ahead of Guhle on draft day, but you cant discount Guhles abnormal growth he had since being drafted. He went from a potentially #3-4 D to a guy that could be a 1D. You cant expect this growth out of every player. Its not saying Dickinson wont have that either, but there is less chance of that happening, imo.

Anybody know a comparable draft that had so many D going in the top 10? Surely they can't all be sure fire top 4 dmen in the nhl

Theres a bunch. 2012, 2008 come to mind.

Generally 6 forwards to 4 D is an healthy balance.

Dickinson, Levshunov are the only two guaranteed top 10 IMO. Demidov, Celebrini, Lindstrom are guaranteed top 10. Thats 5 spots and Im thinking at least Iggy, Eiserman, Catton get in the top 10.

Well see Buium and Silayev go top 10, IMO, so a 6/4 as usual.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

Time for a blindspot of mine: what are ya'll thoughts on Emil Hemming?

 

[Mrb1p]

Time for a blindspot of mine: what are ya'll thoughts on Emil Hemming?

Aside from u20s i havent seen much of him yet. He didnt show much there and wasnt used much, tough to gauge. Hes big and hes fast and he can whip it, which is always a very interesting combination.

I see theres a shift by shift from early season, Ill give it a watch when I have a sec.