HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

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I really like the work of the TSLH site and their hockey analysis work but above all their analysis of prospect for the NHL draft.Today, they talk about a Russian goalie who would be a raw and unknown diamond. I present to you Kirill Zarubin (sorry the text is in French but you can use the automatic translator).


Kirill Zarubin at eliteprospects.com
 

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Buium may break Hutson's record from last year for rookie points. I know Denver is in a much weaker division though. Obviously Hockey East and the Big Ten have way stronger competition.

Still have to wonder if they take the gamble on a D though if the top forwards they like are gone.

edit: realized after their regular season is already done so he can't break it, but still impressive that he tied Hutson for NCAA lead in scoring for D this year.
I love everything about Buium.
 

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Buium may break Hutson's record from last year for rookie points. I know Denver is in a much weaker division though. Obviously Hockey East and the Big Ten have way stronger competition.

Still have to wonder if they take the gamble on a D though if the top forwards they like are gone.

edit: realized after their regular season is already done so he can't break it, but still impressive that he tied Hutson for NCAA lead in scoring for D this year.
Way we playing probably draft 8th. Good chance Buium will still be on the board
 

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Habs as to go with a forward.. Buium, Parekh, Dickinson, Saliyev are off the book.
IF levshunov falls down to us though,,, ishhh i might go for it, but he's the only one in the D
 

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Habs as to go with a forward.. Buium, Parekh, Dickinson, Saliyev are off the book.
IF levshunov falls down to us though,,, ishhh i might go for it, but he's the only one in the D

He won't.. Dickinson and Levshunov won't be on the board for us unless we won the lottery to pick 2.

We will see how things evolve but unless a team is boarish on Lindstrom/Demidov, the picks are currently projected to go Celebrini and then whatever order of Levshunov, Silayev, Dickinson and Yakemchuk the scouts prefer.
 

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Ya, ok. Lets draft Keller instead of Fox when we have no 1D because we have Struble
The way you compare prospects to NHLers is peak straw man. Buium is Makar but Lindstrom/Demidov/Catton are Cozens. Buium is now Fox and our top LD is Struble.

The fact is, Buium is Buium. We don't know what he is yet, but I do know we have Guhle, Hutson, Xhekaj, Struble and Engstrom on LD currently while our top 6 needs help. We have a solid choice of fantastic forwards available to us, whether you want to compare them to Cozens or not.

Dach is not a sure thing with his injury issues. Roy and Newhook are nice, but I would rather one play on the third line. Let's draft a LD in what might be our last good draft and leave our top 6F exposed. Great plan.
 

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I could actually see Dickinson falling similar to Chychrun... not down to 15 or anything but down to 9-10 could happen pretty easily.

There's 5 good forwards and 5 good d-men in the top-10. Every defenseman has at least one elite skill that Dickinson doesn't. Parkeh and Buium have elite offense, Levshunov elite offense, good size and right handed, Silayev is a giant.

Also if Calgary is in the 8-13 range I think they go with Yakemchuk. It's hard for Canadian teams to keep players and Yakemchuk is a local kid who fills a need and loves Calgary.

Also with Buium we're talking about a 6" Hutson with better skating... how is that not the sexiest player we've had in a long time
 
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I could actually see Dickinson falling similar to Chychrun... not down to 15 or anything but down to 9-10 could happen pretty easily.

There's 5 good forwards and 5 good d-men in the top-10. Every defenseman has at least one elite skill that Dickinson doesn't. Parkeh and Buium have elite offense, Levshunov elite offense, good size and right handed, Silayev is a giant.

Also if Calgary is in the 8-13 range I think they go with Yakemchuk. It's hard for Canadian teams to keep players and Yakemchuk is a local kid who fills a need and loves Calgary.

Also with Buium we're talking about a 6" Hutson with better skating... how is that not the sexiest player we've had in a long time
Unless we are trading Hutson, I don't like the idea. Now, if the plan is to draft Buium and trade Hutson for the pick that lands Iginla, I am all for it.
 

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My understanding is that the Habs will realistically end up at pick 7 (with a possible rise up to 5). At that position, and given the need for talent up front, they will likely choose between some combination of Lindstrom, Catton, Demidov and Eiserman, depending on how many D's are drafted in the top 6. Those four seem like the most talented forwards in the draft not named Celebrini.

What are the odds that Catton's sustained production, combined with Lindstrom's prolonged absence, flips them in the final ranks? And, if both are available, which one would you rather have?

I am far from a scout, but the idea that Lindstrom's size will be more useful in the playoffs might be offset by the fact Catton seems to have a very pronounced clutch factor. I am torn.
 

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Unless we are trading Hutson, I don't like the idea. Now, if the plan is to draft Buium and trade Hutson for the pick that lands Iginla, I am all for it.
BPA.

My understanding is that the Habs will realistically end up at pick 7 (with a possible rise up to 5). At that position, and given the need for talent up front, they will likely choose between some combination of Lindstrom, Catton, Demidov and Eiserman, depending on how many D's are drafted in the top 6. Those four seem like the most talented forwards in the draft not named Celebrini.

What are the odds that Catton's sustained production, combined with Lindstrom's prolonged absence, flips them in the final ranks? And, if both are available, which one would you rather have?

I am far from a scout, but the idea that Lindstrom's size will be more useful in the playoffs might be offset by the fact Catton seems to have a very pronounced clutch factor. I am torn.
This board is in love with Lindstrom but he hasnt separated himself at all from the pack. Only Celebrini and Demidov have.
 
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The way you compare prospects to NHLers is peak straw man. Buium is Makar but Lindstrom/Demidov/Catton are Cozens. Buium is now Fox and our top LD is Struble.

The fact is, Buium is Buium. We don't know what he is yet, but I do know we have Guhle, Hutson, Xhekaj, Struble and Engstrom on LD currently while our top 6 needs help. We have a solid choice of fantastic forwards available to us, whether you want to compare them to Cozens or not.

Dach is not a sure thing with his injury issues. Roy and Newhook are nice, but I would rather one play on the third line. Let's draft a LD in what might be our last good draft and leave our top 6F exposed. Great plan.
For all we know we are picking 8th and the first 4-5 forwards are gone. What if Dickinson or Silayev falls to 8? I could easily see a scenario where we just take one then trade Guhle for a forward of a similar age. The priority of the scouts should always be BPA. Let the GM figure out what to do with a surplus of talent at one position. There’s no shortage of teams that are looking for young defenders.
 

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For all we know we are picking 8th and the first 4-5 forwards are gone. What if Dickinson or Silayev falls to 8? I could easily see a scenario where we just take one then trade Guhle for a forward of a similar age. The priority of the scouts should always be BPA. Let the GM figure out what to do with a surplus of talent at one position. There’s no shortage of teams that are looking for young defenders.
But what if Dickinson or Silayev don't end up what Guhle is? Why not just trade that pick for a forward of similar age to Guhle?

I've seen a ton of Dickinson, and I am not so sure he will be better than Guhle. His pedigree is, but the finished product might not be. Haven't seen much of the Russian though.
 
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