HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[crosbyshow]

Yes, just look at his record with NYR and here so far in the first round with mid-high picks. If you think he’s taking a 5’10”, 165 lbs., player in the top 9, you’re not paying close enough attention.

Does not mean that he should not take him.

Catton will be better than Lindstrom. A lot smarter and and a better vision

6.0 barr and 200 pounds..is bs. Half of the best players in history were and are not 6.0 and 200..

You need size on d and in goals but bring me 5.10, 5.11 talented forwards any day of the week.

Bobrov is far from perfect so far with his big tall picks...btw..

 

[Mrb1p]

Does not mean that he should not take him.

Catton will be better than Lindstrom. A lot smarter and and a better vision

6.0 barr and 200 pounds..is bs. Half of the best players in history were and are not 6.0 and 200..

You need size on d and in goals but bring me 5.10, 5.11 talented forwards any day of the week.

Bobrov is far from perfect so far with his big tall picks...btw..

Why not pick the half way and gave Iginla instead..everybodys happy and we get the best player of the three.

 

[Hins77]

As organisation, it may better pick bigger players over tiny players in sort of, market value speaking, they are always praise by others organization. Look at Vegas, they select most of the time 6 ft guys and +. David Edstrom been trade for Hertl. Teams knows that bigger guy take more time to develop. So, those player are keeping their value on a longer time.. pretty sure, today you call San Jose and you offer Mesar for Bysted and they refuse. Bysted hasnt a really good season so far, but he remains a 6 ft 4 giys wich could play in the nhl on a 3 rd line over Mesar barely over ppg in the OHL. Finnally, when you pick a small guy, make sure he destroy every league, every year, like Caufield aNd many else did.
On our pipeline, especially forward. There is too many small guys a la Kidney, Farell, mesar, simoneau, guindon etc. This need to stop a little.. I know BPA is important, but this is not good market value speaking to have too many of those

 

[CDN24]

Anybody know a comparable draft that had so many D going in the top 10? Surely they can't all be sure fire top 4 dmen in the nhl

2008 Had
2 Doughty
3 Bogosian
4 Pietrangelo
5 Schenn

That draft also had Erik Karlsson and John Carlsson and Roman Josi

 

[The Great Weal]

Anybody know a comparable draft that had so many D going in the top 10? Surely they can't all be sure fire top 4 dmen in the nhl

Maybe not in terms of quantity, but 2018 had 4 dmen going top 10 and even at the time, Dobson was seen as a top 10 guy. Pretty wild that all 5 besides Boqvist have become star #1 dmen.

 

[Mrb1p]

As organisation, it may better pick bigger players over tiny players in sort of, market value speaking, they are always praise by others organization. Look at Vegas, they select most of the time 6 ft guys and +. David Edstrom been trade for Hertl. Teams knows that bigger guy take more time to develop. So, those player are keeping their value on a longer time.. pretty sure, today you call San Jose and you offer Mesar for Bysted and they refuse. Bysted hasnt a really good season so far, but he remains a 6 ft 4 giys wich could play in the nhl on a 3 rd line over Mesar barely over ppg in the OHL. Finnally, when you pick a small guy, make sure he destroy every league, every year, like Caufield aNd many else did.
On our pipeline, especially forward. There is too many small guys a la Kidney, Farell, mesar, simoneau, guindon etc. This need to stop a little.. I know BPA is important, but this is not good market value speaking to have too many of those

Mesar was just a bad pick. Ask SJ to trade Bysted for Beck, Hutson, Firkus or Casey and they do ot 20/20.

Pick good players.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Levshunov to me is a pretty safe bet to be something like Sergachev or Hamilton. Tilts the ice in the right way but doesn't really have the motor or desire to be a legit #1 that makes life difficult for opposing stars to play against.

Zeev has a little competitive snarl that I like, obviously in addition to the four way mobility, puck skills, poise and high processing ability.


I don't see a high-end processor in Dickinson, especially under pressure, and because of it I think Guhle's reliability is higher.
He is not the type of profile I like in a top pick and I think has a high chance to disappoint relative to expectations. I hope someone takes him before us.

When I watch Guhle lately, high end processing under pressure is not the first thing to come to mind

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Will any goalies even go in the top 2 rounds this year? Thinking this is the worst class ever

 

[Cubebrick]

When I watch Guhle lately, high end processing under pressure is not the first thing to come to mind

That's true. But I also believe that Guhle isn't under the best circumstances at the moment; defending with a loose cannon in Matheson and on his off-side is most likely preventing him from playing his own game instinctively. Not sure why the coaches aren't at least making them swap sides, given that the latter pretty much acts as a rover anyway.

Guhle performs much better and would be more useful as a LD, imho.

 

[morhilane]

Will any goalies even go in the top 2 rounds this year? Thinking this is the worst class ever

Last year was a goalie draft, so this year having a lot less of them shouldn't be to surprising.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

That's true. But I also believe that Guhle isn't under the best circumstances at the moment; defending with a loose cannon in Matheson and on his off-side is most likely preventing him from playing his own game instinctively. Not sure why the coaches aren't at least making them swap sides, given that the latter pretty much acts as a rover anyway.

Guhle performs much better and would be more useful as a LD, imho.

Indeed, an odd way to develop him when compared how they've handled Slafkovsky this far. Not like one is more important than the other as far as how the organization is assembled today.

What's the worry? That Matheson's defense will take a nose dive playing on the right side?

 

[HuGort]

Justin Poirier is still 6 months away from turning 18 years old, what is the date of birth cut off for the draft?

I been watching him also

 

[Mrb1p]

Indeed, an odd way to develop him when compared how they've handled Slafkovsky this far. Not like one is more important than the other as far as how the organization is assembled today.

What's the worry? That Matheson's defense will take a nose dive playing on the right side?

Lmaoooooo.

 

[The Last Red]

Does not mean that he should not take him

Catton will be better than Lindstrom. A lot smarter and and a better vision

6.0 barr and 200 pounds..is bs. Half of the best players in history were and are not 6.0 and 200..

You need size on d and in goals but bring me 5.10, 5.11 talented forwards any day of the week.

Bobrov is far from perfect so far with his big tall picks...btw..

Bro, I'm no great fan of Nick Bobrov. But look at his first round picks: Andersson, Kravtsov, Kakko, Slaf, Rienbacher . . . He prefers bigger players n the first round, it's clear. He's not drafting Catton over Lindstrom . . . ever. And you do need size up front too. You can't have 4 forwards in your top 6 who are under 6 feet tall and expect to win in the playoffs.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

As organisation, it may better pick bigger players over tiny players in sort of, market value speaking, they are always praise by others organization. Look at Vegas, they select most of the time 6 ft guys and +. David Edstrom been trade for Hertl. Teams knows that bigger guy take more time to develop. So, those player are keeping their value on a longer time.. pretty sure, today you call San Jose and you offer Mesar for Bysted and they refuse. Bysted hasnt a really good season so far, but he remains a 6 ft 4 giys wich could play in the nhl on a 3 rd line over Mesar barely over ppg in the OHL. Finnally, when you pick a small guy, make sure he destroy every league, every year, like Caufield aNd many else did.
On our pipeline, especially forward. There is too many small guys a la Kidney, Farell, mesar, simoneau, guindon etc. This need to stop a little.. I know BPA is important, but this is not good market value speaking to have too many of those

Size is very much a part of determining BPA

 

[HuGort]

Would SahlinWallenius somebody we would take with Jets pick?

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Time for a blindspot of mine: what are ya'll thoughts on Emil Hemming?

I like him: good shot, good speed, good size. He isn't getting a lot of ice time in Liiga, so he's falling a bit. Depending on how things land with the Jets pick: I'd like to grab one of Hemming or Chernyshov.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

As organisation, it may better pick bigger players over tiny players in sort of, market value speaking, they are always praise by others organization. Look at Vegas, they select most of the time 6 ft guys and +. David Edstrom been trade for Hertl. Teams knows that bigger guy take more time to develop. So, those player are keeping their value on a longer time.. pretty sure, today you call San Jose and you offer Mesar for Bysted and they refuse. Bysted hasnt a really good season so far, but he remains a 6 ft 4 giys wich could play in the nhl on a 3 rd line over Mesar barely over ppg in the OHL. Finnally, when you pick a small guy, make sure he destroy every league, every year, like Caufield aNd many else did.
On our pipeline, especially forward. There is too many small guys a la Kidney, Farell, mesar, simoneau, guindon etc. This need to stop a little.. I know BPA is important, but this is not good market value speaking to have too many of those

That's an interesting perspective. However, it may lead to passing on players with much more potential to take the guy with size and safety to become an NHLer.

Time and time again fans have clamored for homerun swings. Homerun swings late first don't tend to have skills AND size. Those go top 10 usually. You have to compromise somewhere.

 

[SlafySZN]

not a lot of Artamonov (#79 white), not his best game as he looked disinterested in the 1st but after he got hit it seemed to wake him up a bit but he's facing the best goalie, defense and team in the MHL.

They said that the team sent Silayev home to rest. After that hit he took in the KHL playoffs I thought he blew his knee out so I was shocked when they sent him to the MHL playoffs but then I figured it must have just looked worse then it was.

Do you have some shift to shift from Yegor Surin? I watched his game today but i would love to have more videos.

 

[montreal]

 

[montreal]

Do you have some shift to shift from Yegor Surin? I watched his game today but i would love to have more videos.

I never heard of him but if you go here,

https://engmhl.khl.ru/calendar/1219/0/13667/

that's every game his team played. click on video for each game and it will give you the link to the full game on youtube or highlights if they don't have the full game or both.

 

[crosbyshow]

Bro, I'm no great fan of Nick Bobrov. But look at his first round picks: Andersson, Kravtsov, Kakko, Slaf, Rienbacher . . . He prefers bigger players n the first round, it's clear. He's not drafting Catton over Lindstrom . . . ever. And you do need size up front too. You can't have 4 forwards in your top 6 who are under 6 feet tall and expect to win in the playoffs.

You are right than Bobrov will not draft Catton and you know..it will be a big f..mistake. Anderson , Kravtsov are big, tall and it was a big f mistake too.

Pittsburgh won 3 cups and only Malkin and Bonino were tall in their top 9.

Rocket, Crosby Yzerman, Sakic, Pat Kane, St louis, Naslund, Fleury, Marchesseault, Dionne etc etc..were all great in playoffs just to name a few.
.6.0 barr is bs.

We never hear someone saying ...they should draft a 6.4 instead than a 6.2....so why we hear that we should draft a 6.1 instead than a 5.11....

Reach is more important than height.

Bring me small forwards any day of the week cause they have some grit and they played thought adversity all their life

 

[HuGort]

What was his injury?

 

[Ezpz]

Buium may break Hutson's record from last year for rookie points. I know Denver is in a much weaker division though. Obviously Hockey East and the Big Ten have way stronger competition.

Still have to wonder if they take the gamble on a D though if the top forwards they like are gone.

edit: realized after their regular season is already done so he can't break it, but still impressive that he tied Hutson for NCAA lead in scoring for D this year.

 

[Schooner Guy]

He has a Shane Wright face thing going on, tough to look at

Haha!! The Wright/Eiserman/Drouin face?