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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • Total voters
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WeThreeKings said:
Scratch out Celebrini, Levshunov and Silayev.. so you'd be looking at the pool of Dickinson, Lindstrom, Catton, Demidov, Buium, Yakemchuk, Parekh, Eiserman, Helenius and Iginla.
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If that is the pool of players we’ll be choosing from it should come down to Devidov or Lindstrom, with a slight chance of Eiserman still (I’ve seen him play in person and his shooting ability cannot be taught or learned, regardless of his supposed “stagnation” overall this season as a player).
 
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The Last Red said:
If that is the pool of players we’ll be choosing from it should come down to Devidov or Lindstrom, with a slight chance of Eiserman still (I’ve seen him play in person and his shooting ability cannot be taught or learned, regardless of his supposed “stagnation” overall this season as a player).
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Depending on where we are picking - yes, you can make a very strong assumption that the two forwards at the top of their list (behind Celebrini) are Lindstrom and Demidov.

I think after that, you're looking at Catton/Iginla with Helenius and Eiserman sitting in the conversation but likely behind them.

Nothing concrete yet, too far away from the draft, but projecting based on the two year window we have into Hugo and this amateur scouting staff.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
Depending on where we are picking - yes, you can make a very strong assumption that the two forwards at the top of their list (behind Celebrini) are Lindstrom and Demidov.

I think after that, you're looking at Catton/Iginla with Helenius and Eiserman sitting in the conversation but likely behind them.

Nothing concrete yet, too far away from the draft, but projecting based on the two year window we have into Hugo and this amateur scouting staff.
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Catton’s frame concerns me and I’ve seen the Finn described as a “middle six”’forward, which I wouldn’t use a top 10 pick on, regardless of his supposed high floor.
 
JeffreyLFC said:
That's how you end up with a player like Lias Andersson or Marco Kasper
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I think we know the scouting director (and GM) who drafted Andersson. Just saying. Also, Andersson isn’t even playing in the NHL, let alone as a middle six forward there.
 
WeThreeKings said:
Scratch out Celebrini, Levshunov and Silayev.. so you'd be looking at the pool of Dickinson, Lindstrom, Catton, Demidov, Buium, Yakemchuk, Parekh, Eiserman, Helenius and Iginla.
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How much certain we are about 2 of the top 4 teams will draft a defenseman?
 
JustAHabFan said:
How much certain we are about 2 of the top 4 teams will draft a defenseman?
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I think Anaheim is taking a D. San Jose and Chicago are going for pure talent. And Columbus will go BPA at their position although they do badly need a 2C so Lindstrom would be perfect for them. Only way to pretty much guarantee one of Lindstrom or Demidov is to get to that 4 spot which seems more possible with every day that passes
 
WeThreeKings said:
Yeah, he's not a favorite of mine.. but his Liiga production is impressive.

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For me there is a comp between Barkov and Helenius.

First off, Barkov has the size element and he will impact a game in a way that Helenius will never be able too. That said, they both come in with good production in La liga, both have a solid all around game and both come in with the same knock: will their offensive game translate to the nhl. Barkov’s did. Helenius may become a similar type of gamble for a team (minus off course and again the size element which should not be discounted).
 
JustAHabFan said:
How much certain we are about 2 of the top 4 teams will draft a defenseman?
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Pretty certain (as of right now).. Bob's list had Silayev and Levshunov at 2 and 3.

There's a small standard deviation of Bob's list to reality in the top 10, but you don't have to look far at draft trends to know that defenseman are commodities that get picked high in the draft.

I also did an exercise of what teams have done in the last few years, as what you have in your pool/young on your roster will impact where you might lean when players are very close at the top of the draft.

For example, San Jose hasn't drafted a defenseman in the first round in the last 4 drafts. They are a franchise we don't want to see win the lottery.
 
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I think Eiserman will remain high on the Habs list. Even with his down trend I will admit he is still a great fit for the Habs who have a bunch of good 200 foot players that are also pass first. They are in a position to take a bigger risk on a winger with an elite shot.

Demidov, Lindstrom, Iginla and Eiserman will be the 4 I see on the short list.
 
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I have a feeling we're going to grab the highest rated center left at our pick.

Dach's injury record can't be ignored and I doubt we'd take a pure winger when we don't have anyone in the system that can properly fill the 2C spot besides for Dach.
 
BergevinBurner said:
I have a feeling we're going to grab the highest rated center left at our pick.

Dach's injury record can't be ignored and I doubt we'd take a pure winger when we don't have anyone in the system that can properly fill the 2C spot besides for Dach.
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Well outside of Demidov, Eiserman and Iginla, they all play center or can play center.

But I don't think that's their criteria, I think their criteria is who is the best offensive boon to the club and has the qualities we are looking for.

Which is why I don't think Eiserman is a target unless he's the only option left - they made it pretty clear that Caufield is the only smaller, soft, offensive, shoot first forward they want in their top 6.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
Well outside of Demidov, Eiserman and Iginla, they all play center or can play center.

But I don't think that's their criteria, I think their criteria is who is the best offensive boon to the club and has the qualities we are looking for.

Which is why I don't think Eiserman is a target unless he's the only option left - they made it pretty clear that Caufield is the only smaller, soft, offensive, shoot first forward they want in their top 6.
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Everything I’ve read about Eiserman is that he’s a high end passenger on a line. Others do the work and he finishes.

Now, whether or not that can be improved remains to be seen. But I’d look at him more along the lines of a Brett Hull type guy. He’s going to score goals but not do much else.

Caufield I think is a little underrated in terms of two way play. He’s not big but he plays bigger than he is and he steals a lot of pucks. If Eiserman could even just do that I’d be happy if he’s putting up a bunch of goals.

But I get it. If the teams looking for a play driver, Eiserman is probably not the guy.

But it’s going to be interesting sitting here in five years if Eiserman turns into a sixty goal guy and we pass on him.
 
BergevinBurner said:
I have a feeling we're going to grab the highest rated center left at our pick.

Dach's injury record can't be ignored and I doubt we'd take a pure winger when we don't have anyone in the system that can properly fill the 2C spot besides for Dach.
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Yes, unless there’s another iron in the fire.
(Zegras)
 
WeThreeKings said:
Well outside of Demidov, Eiserman and Iginla, they all play center or can play center.

But I don't think that's their criteria, I think their criteria is who is the best offensive boon to the club and has the qualities we are looking for.

Which is why I don't think Eiserman is a target unless he's the only option left - they made it pretty clear that Caufield is the only smaller, soft, offensive, shoot first forward they want in their top 6.
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Eiserman isn’t small. He 6’0”, 195 lbs.
 
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JustAHabFan said:
If we use both the Jets and the Flames picks to move up, is it enough to get Iginla?
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In 2022, Arizona traded one 1st rounder (27th OV) and two 2nd rounders (34th & 45th OV) to move up to the 11th spot and draft C.Geekie. The Flames pick is a bit of an unknown quantity, but let's assume it's a low 1st rounder. Then the price would be ~ Jets pick, the Flames pick and Colorado's 2nd rounder. That might yield you Iginla around the 10-15th spot, assuming he isn't gone by then.
 
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JustAHabFan said:
If we use both the Jets and the Flames picks to move up, is it enough to get Iginla?
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I wouldn't mind this at all. I could see a team along the lines of Pittsburgh moving their 1st if they get 2 back. Their cupboards are completely empty so I feel like they'd be open to it.

It'd essentially mean we got a couple seasons of Monahan and a top 15 pick for free.
 
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