2024 NHL Draft Thread - Upd: Draft Lottery is May 7th

[CallMeShaft]

Yeah I can't see Tampa finishing bottom 10 ... just have to hope they don't win the lottery finishing in the 11th spot!

I don't know why you, or anyone else, can't see a bottom 10 finish.

They are 1-2-1 right now, only winning against Nashville and getting a loser point in Buffalo. They lost against Detroit and Ottawa, two teams (as well as Buffalo), who are division rivals looking at taking the next step this year.

They've been outplayed and out-possessed in those games, and they are missing Vasi until December (ish), and even when he returns, he's probably not going to be 100%.

Saying it now, but I get a lot of 17-18 Hawks vibes from this Tampa team. Core players are either injured or becoming long in the tooth, depletion of depth since last time as champs, and the same amount of time since their last cup win. Hawks landed the 8th overall pick after that season.

 

[Styles]

From what it sounded like when the trade happened, the 2023 1st was top 10 protected and would become their 2025 1st if conditions were met, while the 2024 1st was the same, but would become a 2026 1st if top 10 conditions were met.

That's why so many of us think it'd be bumped to 2026, because what ended up being the Moore pick was the one that could've became a 2025 pick if it had been top 10.

The only chance of us getting a 2026 draft pick is done since they weren’t in the top ten this year. Yes we would have gotten an unprotected first in 2025 since we already owned the 2024 pick of theirs.

If the scenario played out

Tampa is top ten in 2023
2024 pick protected, 2025 pick unprotected

Tampa is top ten in 2024
2025 pick already unprotected, 2026 pick unprotected

Nashville now gets 2027 pick

 

[jls24]

These were the conditions listed in the article I looked up.

"The conditions surrounding Tampa Bay's protected first-round picks are as follows: Should the 2023 first-round pick be in the top 10, the Lightning will instead transfer their own, unprotected first-round pick in the 2025 NHL Draft to the Blackhawks. In the event both of the Lightning's 2023 and 2024 picks are in the top 10, then Tampa Bay will transfer its unprotected first-round picks in the 2025 draft and the 2026 NHL Draft to Chicago."

Sounds like we get '25 unprotected if it slides according to this, although still a little ambiguous. You could also read it as '24 isn't protected on its own, but that would be weird.

 

[cassac]

These were the conditions listed in the article I looked up.

"The conditions surrounding Tampa Bay's protected first-round picks are as follows: Should the 2023 first-round pick be in the top 10, the Lightning will instead transfer their own, unprotected first-round pick in the 2025 NHL Draft to the Blackhawks. In the event both of the Lightning's 2023 and 2024 picks are in the top 10, then Tampa Bay will transfer its unprotected first-round picks in the 2025 draft and the 2026 NHL Draft to Chicago."

Sounds like we get '25 unprotected if it slides according to this, although still a little ambiguous. You could also read it as '24 isn't protected on its own, but that would be weird.

Capfriendly states the 2024 pick is top 10 protected.

 

[crazyhawk]

I don't know why you, or anyone else, can't see a bottom 10 finish.

They are 1-2-1 right now, only winning against Nashville and getting a loser point in Buffalo. They lost against Detroit and Ottawa, two teams (as well as Buffalo), who are division rivals looking at taking the next step this year.

They've been outplayed and out-possessed in those games, and they are missing Vasi until December (ish), and even when he returns, he's probably not going to be 100%.

Saying it now, but I get a lot of 17-18 Hawks vibes from this Tampa team. Core players are either injured or becoming long in the tooth, depletion of depth since last time as champs, and the same amount of time since their last cup win. Hawks landed the 8th overall pick after that season.

You could be right .. no doubt. Either way if we get their pick this year it's most likely in the 11-20 range but next year ( if they do end up bottom 10 this year ) could be as high or even higher of a pick. Long story short .. we're golden either way!

 

[WarriorofTime]

I don't know why you, or anyone else, can't see a bottom 10 finish.

They are 1-2-1 right now, only winning against Nashville and getting a loser point in Buffalo. They lost against Detroit and Ottawa, two teams (as well as Buffalo), who are division rivals looking at taking the next step this year.

They've been outplayed and out-possessed in those games, and they are missing Vasi until December (ish), and even when he returns, he's probably not going to be 100%.

Saying it now, but I get a lot of 17-18 Hawks vibes from this Tampa team. Core players are either injured or becoming long in the tooth, depletion of depth since last time as champs, and the same amount of time since their last cup win. Hawks landed the 8th overall pick after that season.

They probably need one more injury for the bottom to really fall off that dramatically. They still have a really good Top 4 FWD (Kucherov, Point, Stamkos, Hagel)/Top 2 D (Hedman, Sergachev) and depending on how he comes back, an elite goaltender for the majority of the season. I think we're about a year away from going full 2017-18 Blackhawks. The addition of Panarin was masking a lot of issues with the team the prior years and then he got scapegoated for the playoff exits and he was gone.

 

[bwanajamba]

Meet Anton Silayev, the 2024 NHL Draft's 6-foot-7 unicorn with 'elite skating'

It's not hard to see exactly why NHL clubs are so excited and intrigued about what Silayev has shown, and what he might become.

theathletic.com

Good piece from Wheeler on Silayev, with some impressive video clips. Some interesting tidbits:

1. At least one NHL analyst quoted in the piece thinks he could challenge for #1 overall
2. There's a mention in there that he has played his off side a bit this year, which is pretty impressive for a 17 year old in one of the world's better pro leagues

Say what you will about the possible decline of the KHL, but that's an immensely intriguing talent (and even if the Blackhawks aren't ultimately in position to draft him, him coming out of nowhere to start the year could push another high-end name down into their laps, which would be nice)

 

[clydesdale line]

Meet Anton Silayev, the 2024 NHL Draft's 6-foot-7 unicorn with 'elite skating'

It's not hard to see exactly why NHL clubs are so excited and intrigued about what Silayev has shown, and what he might become.

theathletic.com

Good piece from Wheeler on Silayev, with some impressive video clips. Some interesting tidbits:

1. At least one NHL analyst quoted in the piece thinks he could challenge for #1 overall
2. There's a mention in there that he has played his off side a bit this year, which is pretty impressive for a 17 year old in one of the world's better pro leagues

Say what you will about the possible decline of the KHL, but that's an immensely intriguing talent (and even if the Blackhawks aren't ultimately in position to draft him, him coming out of nowhere to start the year could push another high-end name down into their laps, which would be nice)

My god.. I knew he was a smooth skater for his size but he makes Vlasic look average... and Vlasic is a pretty good skater for his size himself. This kid is a unicorn with that skating at that size.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

NHL moves forward with plan to destroy NHL draft experience and turn it into a crappy nonsensical preplanned gimmick + draft pick tipping and no more surprises of fun

2024 either is end of NHL draft being a watchable/quality event or the first of the new awful experience.

Leave it up to the NHL to ruin one of the few things it does right

 

[BHawk21]

Holy smokes that Silayev can skate.

 

[u2wojo]

Central scouting came out with the premilinary list. 28 A rated players include RHD's Jirecek, Levshunov, Mews, Parekh, & Yakemchuk and an additional 10 RHD given a B rating. Really good draft year for a team desperately thing on RHD prospects to have 7 picks in the first 3 rounds and 2 1st so far.

 

[kmwtrucks]

NHL moves forward with plan to destroy NHL draft experience and turn it into a crappy nonsensical preplanned gimmick + draft pick tipping and no more surprises of fun

2024 either is end of NHL draft being a watchable/quality event or the first of the new awful experience.

Leave it up to the NHL to ruin one of the few things it does right

that is how the NFL does it. they setup camera's in every teams war room. its probalby worse for people that attend but better from watching from home.

 

[WarriorofTime]

I went to the draft when it was here in 2017, I don't know what excitement I got out of seeing the teams at their little tables to be honest. The process of 20 people walking up was kind of annoying and just delayed things. Coolest part by far was seeing all the prospects just walking around the arena, like you'd go the restroom and all of a sudden some future NHL player would be there in line.

 

[belfour30]

I want the Hawks to draft Levshunov so badly at this moment.
We'll see if I change my mind.

 

[clydesdale line]

We'll see if I change my mind.

You will.

 

[wladyslaw]

My god.. I knew he was a smooth skater for his size but he makes Vlasic look average... and Vlasic is a pretty good skater for his size himself. This kid is a unicorn with that skating at that size.

I agree-- watched Silayev hilites few weeks ago-- Looks like Hossa / D man speed/stride...
Don't know how this kid w that stride/reach doesn't become long term Fixture as top shut down D man... If he adds any offense-- gonna be a stud for long time--Hedman like if His IQ is solid.

 

[cassac]

I went to the draft when it was here in 2017, I don't know what excitement I got out of seeing the teams at their little tables to be honest. The process of 20 people walking up was kind of annoying and just delayed things. Coolest part by far was seeing all the prospects just walking around the arena, like you'd go the restroom and all of a sudden some future NHL player would be there in line.

I took my son to the draft this summer. We had a blast on day 1. I went to the second day and that was not nearly as fun.

 

[Castle8130]

I'm looking at Macklin, Cole, Ivan, Tij, or Konsta. Any of those players would be great additions to our team

 

[hawksfan50]

One of the more intriguing prosoects for tge 2024 draft is Center Dean Letourneau 6'6 and 209lbs already !!!

Scouting rdpirt is tgatvhecis antique combo of hogh endxskill and size with great scoring ability...Hexwas given just a British by Central Scoutingbon its Preliminary Watch List ..but just coukd ruse to sphere in round 1 by year end of he dominates in his prep .school games..He plays for St.Andews iprep Colkege in Canada...

Do nit know how high in 1st roubd he could get to but if Hawks muss out on one ofctge consensus big prizes in top 5-6 of this draft he might be a good pick for our 2nd pick in round 1 (fromTB)*unless they Fall into topb 10 protected and the pick gets delayed to unprotected for 2025 draft Ior doesctgexdelay go till 2026 draft i tgat case?

But if we get to use tgeTB first in the 2024 draft Letourneau could be a gem of a puck..His shot compares to Taige Thompson ..but from what I read hie skates a lot faster.


Anyway...keep tge name in mind and we shall see where he gets ranked by the Final Rankings at season end.

He will play at Northeastern next season.

 

[MicronMega]

Not sure where the TB pick ends up, but there are some nice players in the mid-first:

Igor Chernyshov
Sacha Boisvert
Emil Hemming

 

[Castle8130]

I'm hoping we can add a 3rd 1st round pick in this draft. If you take away Bedard and Celebrini from both drafts, I think 2024 is a superior draft. Atleast that's how it is looking now. In fact, I think this draft might end up being a top 3 draft over the last 10-15 draft years.

Not sure where the TB pick ends up, but there are some nice players in the mid-first:

Igor Chernyshov
Sacha Boisvert
Emil Hemming

Below are the favorites from the CHL only;

Ryder Ritchie
Berkley Catton
Maxim Masse
Terik Parasack
Cayden Lindstrom
Tij Iginla
Liam Greentree
Luke Misa
Zayne Parekh
Sam Dickinson
Carter Yakemchuk
Henry Mews (not as confident in)
Tanner Howe (maybe not 1st round, but interesting history with Bedard)

A couple others with good production;

Andrew Basha
Alexandre Blais


On top of all this, Europe (including Russia) has a very strong draft crop of players. The USNTDP and USHL is about average, but they have some good players like Sacha, EJ Emery, Hutson, Connelly, and Eiserman

 

[clydesdale line]

If you take away Bedard and Celebrini from both drafts, I think 2024 is a superior draft.

Than last years? 0 shot. Much better draft as far as defenseman, absolutely, but the elite talent from this past draft will be one for the ages. Michkov alone is right there with Bedard and will be when he comes over.

 

[Castle8130]

Than last years? 0 shot. Much better draft as far as defenseman, absolutely, but the elite talent from this past draft will be one for the ages. Michkov alone is right there with Bedard and will be when he comes over.

Definitely a shot. Even pro scouts were saying outside the top 5 talents, it wasn't a special draft. That's why there were so many picks traded. Ottawa handed their picks out and stated they didn't think the draft was very good.

'Golden Misfits' as valuable as ever, 2023 draft FAQ, and 4 other NHL items

Four were selected in the 2017 NHL expansion draft; two were acquired via trade on the same day. Four are now in their 30s; two are in their late 20s.Together, Jonathan Marchessault, William Karlsson, Reilly Smith, William Carrier, Shea Theodore, and Brayden McNabb represent the past and present...

www.thescore.com

The link above is an article where you can find the opinion of a pro scout via quotes

 

[EddieTheEagle]

The top 5 of this past draft are miles ahead of 2024. Say what you want about the "depth" of round 1 but the fact that the high-end talent was so superior makes 2023 a knockout draft already by comparison.

Look at how many of the 2023 draft are IMMEDIATELY in the NHL and doing well. Bedard, Carlsson, Fantilli, Benson (probably going back but still), and Michkov (is killing the KHL for his age).

 

[clydesdale line]

Definitely a shot. Even pro scouts were saying outside the top 5 talents, it wasn't a special draft. That's why there were so many picks traded. Ottawa handed their picks out and stated they didn't think the draft was very good.

Ottawa said that because they gave up their own 1st round pick. If they still had it, they wouldn't of said that at all. Of course Dorion is gonna come out and say that to save face. It's no different than him trying to save face for the DeBrincat trade.