Pre-Game Talk: 2024 Draft Thread

[sfvega]

here is a new 2 round mock draft from Flohockey -https://www.flohockey.tv/articles/12650697-nhl-mock-draft-2024-predicting-every-pick-in-the-first-two-rounds

Three forwards including passing on great D prospects in round 2? Worst case scenario. I like Hage tho.

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

Three forwards including passing on great D prospects in round 2? Worst case scenario. I like Hage tho.

One big problem I have with Hage is he took himself out of the playoffs losing his cool. The refs blew that game no question, but they blew it for everyone. If he can get his s**t together, then he could be a second line center. He is just quite a ways from there and probably won’t be successful bottom six.

If they passed over Freij 3 times and the third for Simon Zether, then I would probably throw my laptop.

 

[LogosBlue]

Any chance we find a partner in Philly to move up to 12? Trade our 16 and a 2nd. Briere said he would be open to that. 12 could possibly get Parekh or Catton or Sennecke? Would be better than Jiricek or MBN. Any takers

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[Beauterham]

Any chance we find a partner in Philly to move up to 12? Trade our 16 and a 2nd. Briere said he would be open to that. 12 could possibly get Parekh or Catton or Sennecke? Would be better than Jiricek or MBN. Any takers

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I thought Philly where trying to move up? If so it might be easier to make a deal with either BUF or NJ as they are reported to potentially wanting to trade down for the right package.

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

I would be more willing to trade down.

 

[LogosBlue]

I thought Philly where trying to move up? If so it might be easier to make a deal with either BUF or NJ as they are reported to potentially wanting to trade down for the right package.

I read he'd be willing to go up or down. Basically, he said open for wheeling and dealing

 

[Blueswin]

I read he'd be willing to go up or down. Basically, he said open for wheeling and dealing

Yes but yesterday some came out & said Philly might have a deal with the Sens to move from 12 to 7.

 

[Majorityof1]

Any chance we find a partner in Philly to move up to 12? Trade our 16 and a 2nd. Briere said he would be open to that. 12 could possibly get Parekh or Catton or Sennecke? Would be better than Jiricek or MBN. Any takers

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Seems kinda pre-mature to say. Depends on who our scouts like and how the board falls. I could see laying the ground work for a deal if the board falls a certain way, but not locking a trade down until we see. It would suck to trade our 16th for 12 and then 5 teams go way off board.

We did something similar with a potential trade with Detroit if Dvorsky or Leonard iirc were picked where we'd move up to grab the other. Dvorsky survived so we just picked him.

 

[LogosBlue]

Seems kinda pre-mature to say. Depends on who our scouts like and how the board falls. I could see laying the ground work for a deal if the board falls a certain way, but not locking a trade down until we see. It would suck to trade our 16th for 12 and then 5 teams go way off board.

We did something similar with a potential trade with Detroit if Dvorsky or Leonard iirc were picked where we'd move up to grab the other. Dvorsky survived so we just picked him.

True. But 12 gets us up into the arguably 2nd tier of players available.

 

[PocketNines]

A week til the draft! Hoping the schedule comes out next week too

(When does last year's Final end, three weeks?)

 

[Majorityof1]

True. But 12 gets us up into the arguably 2nd tier of players available.

I agree. But I think there are 14-15 in the 2nd tier, so it's possible we get there without trading. I'd hate to trade a 2nd (possibly more) and grab a player the same tier we would gave had at 16 oa if a few teams go off board.

 

[STL fan in MN]

Seems kinda pre-mature to say. Depends on who our scouts like and how the board falls. I could see laying the ground work for a deal if the board falls a certain way, but not locking a trade down until we see. It would suck to trade our 16th for 12 and then 5 teams go way off board.

We did something similar with a potential trade with Detroit if Dvorsky or Leonard iirc were picked where we'd move up to grab the other. Dvorsky survived so we just picked him.

The trade would’ve been with Buffalo, not Detroit. Buffalo wanted to move up to draft Benson. They got lucky and were able to get Benson at 13.

The Hawks also desperately tried to move up from 19 because they really wanted Moore. Ended up getting him at 19 too so sometimes it’s good when a deal doesn’t work out.

I’m sure the Blues are laying all sorts of groundwork that may or may not be executed depending on how the draft goes.

 

[sfvega]

One big problem I have with Hage is he took himself out of the playoffs losing his cool. The refs blew that game no question, but they blew it for everyone. If he can get his s**t together, then he could be a second line center. He is just quite a ways from there and probably won’t be successful bottom six.

If they passed over Freij 3 times and the third for Simon Zether, then I would probably throw my laptop.

Yeah, the problem is we dropped far enough in this class that everyone has warts.

Freij was eye-opening, but passing on Skahan, Brunicke, etc as well is just mind-boggling.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Hage, Freij, Brunicke in that situation for me and I'd walk away pleased.

 

[Damian Frerker]

does jessee pulkkinen play with physicality?

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

does jessee pulkkinen play with physicality?

Yes. He uses his size to his advantage.

 

[Blueswin]

2024 mock draft Hage #16 @ 2:49:20

 

[execwrite1]

Pronman seven-round draft

St. Louis Blues
16. Adam Jiricek, D, Plzen (CZECHIA)
48. Matvei Gridin, RW, Muskegon (USHL)
56. Will Skahan, D, Usa U-18 (NTDP)
81. Kasper Pikkarainen, RW, Tps Jr. (FINLAND-JR.)
95. Nate Misskey, D, Victoria (WHL)
113. Jonathan Morello, C, St. Michaels (OJHL)
145. Hugo Lejon, RW, Vasteras Jr. (SWEDEN-JR.)
209. Matt Lahey, D, Nanaimo (BCHL)
211. Jackson Smithknecht, D, Rogers (HIGH-MN)

 

[tfriede2]

Pronman seven-round draft

St. Louis Blues
16. Adam Jiricek, D, Plzen (CZECHIA)
48. Matvei Gridin, RW, Muskegon (USHL)
56. Will Skahan, D, Usa U-18 (NTDP)
81. Kasper Pikkarainen, RW, Tps Jr. (FINLAND-JR.)
95. Nate Misskey, D, Victoria (WHL)
113. Jonathan Morello, C, St. Michaels (OJHL)
145. Hugo Lejon, RW, Vasteras Jr. (SWEDEN-JR.)
209. Matt Lahey, D, Nanaimo (BCHL)
211. Jackson Smithknecht, D, Rogers (HIGH-MN)

I would be very deflated if that happened. Jiricek is such a wildcard, though. Just not sure I want to take that risk.

Edit: Wheeler’s mock (just released) has Blues taking Solberg, Stiga, and Zether. I’d be happy with that.

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

Celebrini, Macklin	1​
Demidov, Ivan	2​
Dickinson, Sam	3​
Buium, Zeev	4​
Levshunov, Artyom	5​
Lindstrom, Caden	6​
Sennecke, Beckett	7​
Silayev, Anton	8​
Catton, Berkly	9​
iginla, Tij	10​
Freij, Alfons	11​
Solberg, Stian	12​
Yakemchuk, Carter	13​
Emery, EJ	14​
Luchanko, Jett	15​
Helenius, Konsta	16​
Eiserman, Cole	17​
Parekh, Zayne	18​
Brandsegg-Nygard, Michael	19​
Badinka, Dominik	20​
Surin, Yegor	21​
Elick, Charlie	22​
Hage, Michael	23​
Artamonov, Nikita	24​
Basha, Andrew	25​
Stiga, Teddy	26​
Ericksson, Linus	27​
Pulkkinen, Jesse	28​
Hemming, Emil	29​
Chernyshov, Igor	30​
Ritchie, Ryder	31​
Beaudoin, Cole	32​
Pettersson, Lucas	33​
Brunicke, Harrison	34​
Mustard, John	35​
Greentree, Liam	36​
Vanacker, Marek	37​
Kleber, Adam	38​
Jiricek, Adam	39​
Boisvert, Sasha	40​
Mews, Henry	41​
Letourneau, Dean	42​
Parascak, Terik	43​
Danford, Ben	44​
Shuravin, Matvei	45​
Gill, Spencer	46​
Marrelli, Luca	47​
Misa, Luke	48​
Miettinen, Julius	49​
Howe, Tanner	50​
Sahlin Wallenius, Leo	HM
Fischer, Lukas	HM
Wetsch, Carson	HM
Roberts, colton	HM
Battaglia, Jacob	HM
Villeneuve, Nathan	HM
He, Kevin	HM
Traff, Herman	HM
Spellacy, AJ	HM
Johannson, Loke	WC
Svensson, Joel	WC
Rep, Ozbej	WC
Sjoqvist, Gustav	WC

Top 50 w/ honorable mentions and Wild cards I would like to see the Blues draft.

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

Massive data overload for numbers nerds.... This is a compilation of rankings and mocks that I kept throughout the year. Starting from beginning of year to the end. It's not complete. I do need to update heights and weights. and add some more comparative formulas into it, but enjoy nonetheless. Lots of reading. lots of research. Sift through the garbage and guess wrong too....haha.

 

[stl76]

The closer we get to this draft, the move convinced I am that there will be a really good prospect available at #16. And with this year being so wide open in terms of rankings, it seems prime for picks to be traded and good scouting teams to take advantage. I'm liking the way this is shaping up for the Blues.

 

[Beauterham]

Massive data overload for numbers nerds.... This is a compilation of rankings and mocks that I kept throughout the year. Starting from beginning of year to the end. It's not complete. I do need to update heights and weights. and add some more comparative formulas into it, but enjoy nonetheless. Lots of reading. lots of research. Sift through the garbage and guess wrong too....haha.

Browsing through your list. This was.... a lot of work, haha. You mad man, haha! Appreciate the hard work!

 

[PocketNines]

I am super happy there is a kid named John Mustard available and he better get picked by Nashville

 

[STL fan in MN]

Pronman seven-round draft

St. Louis Blues
16. Adam Jiricek, D, Plzen (CZECHIA)
48. Matvei Gridin, RW, Muskegon (USHL)
56. Will Skahan, D, Usa U-18 (NTDP)
81. Kasper Pikkarainen, RW, Tps Jr. (FINLAND-JR.)
95. Nate Misskey, D, Victoria (WHL)
113. Jonathan Morello, C, St. Michaels (OJHL)
145. Hugo Lejon, RW, Vasteras Jr. (SWEDEN-JR.)
209. Matt Lahey, D, Nanaimo (BCHL)
211. Jackson Smithknecht, D, Rogers (HIGH-MN)

Here’s who I would’ve ended go with (next highest on my board in parentheses).

16. Luchanko (MBN)
48. Freij (Basha)
56. Shuravin (Brunicke)
81. Brunicke (Fransen)
95. Fransen (T. Smith)
113. T. Smith (Skahan)
145. Skahan (He)
209. Swanson
211. Hendrickson

At 209, all of my top 100 were gone so of my HMs, I considered Swanson, Lassila, Hendrickson and Suoniemi. I really wanted to pick Lassila but also wanted to pick a goalie so went with Hendrickson.

Observations:

Do I have some of the D rated too high? I know the Blues need D so did I subconsciously like some of the d-men better than I should have? Most of the time the next highest guy on my board was still available the next time a Blues pick came up.

If the draft played out like this, there’s no way I’d actually pick 5 lefty d-men. I believe in BPA early in the draft but starting at pick 95 and beyond I’m probably taking a couple of He, Misa and Villeneuve instead of the LDs. If the Blues had their 6th (177th overall) both Villeneuve and Misa were available there in Pronman’s mock.