Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)

[morhilane]

Demidov lost his center...oh no!


That's actually good, Kuzy sucked.

 

[Redux91]

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Yup, his arm/shoulder was hanging reeeal low

But yeah, he was actually a deterrent really

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Iron sharpens iron, steel sharpens steel. Demidov is gonna come out of that maelstrom a better leader and person. Even Therrien will approve!!

Only if he’s not Soff

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Drew a penalty (would have scored)
Real nice moves on a 1 on 3 but guy went to the net instead of taking the space left back by defenders, so errant pass.
Real nice entry on the PP to get it set up on a high pressured zone entry.

Other than that, not a lot of puck touches for the line, a lot of terrible plays by Kuznetsov and for some reason using him in the bumper on the PP.

Whh hi is the last Habs player that was this much of a play driver/offensive threat like this in your view?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Whh hi is the last Habs player that was this much of a play driver/offensive threat like this in your view?

Kovalev during his good season.

 

[Thomas Sowell]

I'd love to know what his p/60 this year is is compared to michkovs season last year. Anybody have that info?

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

I'd love to know what his p/60 this year is is compared to michkovs season last year. Anybody have that info?

Very valid question

 

[SlafySZN]

I'd love to know what his p/60 this year is is compared to michkovs season last year. Anybody have that info?

They don’t have the same ice time and chances on the first PP. I don’t think it can be compared.

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

They don’t have the same ice time and chances on the first PP. I don’t think it can be compared.

Correct me if wrong but the p/60 is designed for those reasons no? To determine who is the most productive per time played?

 

[Kennerback]

Yeah Michkov was always on the PP from day 1. They gave him good players to play with. And he always had solid ice time every game. No periods where he had only one or two 20 second shifts.

But in Sochi, Michkov was more of an opportunist that would take advantage of a defensive breakdown. He didn’t take control of the play like Demidov does all the time even with his inconsequential ice time.

 

[SlafySZN]

Correct me if wrong but the p/60 is designed for those reasons no? To determine who is the most productive per time played?

Ah, maybe your right i might’ve responded wrong.

But Demidov played 9 games so it should be compared at the end of his season

 

[Kennerback]

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Gaylord, did you get this on the SKA telegram channel? If you did could you post the link. I used to have it but can’t find it anymore.

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Ah, maybe your right i might’ve responded wrong.

But Demidov played 9 games so it should be compared at the end of his season

I’ll be curious to see the season totals for Demidov as well. I’m also curious to see if he will be given prime opportunities like Michkov was. PP1 and top line minutes. Demidov is so dominant

 

[morhilane]

I'd love to know what his p/60 this year is is compared to michkovs season last year. Anybody have that info?

I had to calculate the p/60 manually so it might not be 100% accurate, the KHL website has a lots of stats but not that one. Michov TOI/g was 16:58 last year, while Demidov is at 13:08 right now.

Demidov in 9 games: 0.778 p/g and ~3.589 p/60
Michkov last year in 48 games: 0.854 p/g and ~3.014 p/60

Demidov p/60 would probably drop if he played a bit more thought.

 

[Redux91]

Correct me if wrong but the p/60 is designed for those reasons no? To determine who is the most productive per time played?

The teams and and opportunities are too different to get an accurate number for this

Per time played =/= playing with top6 players/PP1

If you want Demidovs p/60 then you match it with Michkov's SKA p/60 and not his Sochi p/60

 

[BenchBrawl]

I won't over-analyze his game this season. Watching the occasional highlight will suffice. Too many factors making the situation complex in Russia to really be worth it. See you next year, Ivan!

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

The teams and and opportunities are too different to get an accurate number for this

Per time played =/= playing with top6 players/PP1

If you want Demidovs p/60 then you match it with Michkov's SKA p/60 and not his Sochi p/60

That makes sense.

That said, Demidov is truly proving to be a game changer regardless where he plays

 

[WeThreeKings]

I'd love to know what his p/60 this year is is compared to michkovs season last year. Anybody have that info?

They don’t have the same ice time and chances on the first PP. I don’t think it can be compared.

I asked Marc Dumont for this but he didn't do it. I guess he had to summarize another article from a major news outlet we all already seen.

I had to calculate the p/60 manually so it might not be 100% accurate, the KHL website has a lots of stats but not that one. Michov TOI/g was 16:58 last year, while Demidov is at 13:08 right now.

Demidov in 9 games: 0.778 p/g and ~3.589 p/60
Michkov last year in 48 games: 0.854 p/g and ~3.014 p/60

Demidov p/60 would probably drop if he played a bit more thought.

His p/60 would drop but his raw point totals would increase.

The p/60 is likely going to be the biggest way to compare the two, if we are into that sort of thing.

I think they are of similar talent levels and we got more of what we needed in Demidov by way of his playmaking, puck carrying, and physicality on the ice.

Caufield and Laine give us enough raw sniping.

 

[Doom Bot]

You need to compare even strength p/60. If one guy is playing PP and one isn't it's going to be skewed. Also the guy playing lower down the lineup with more favourable matchups and less ice time usually gets a boost. Back in the day Galchenyuk was highly ranked in the league for p/60 at a few points for this reason.

 

[Justin11]

I can only imagine if the kid would have time on the PP, his numbers will look even better.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Kuznetsov is going to have more free time now.

 

[River Meadow]

Kuznetsov is going to have more free time now.

Kuznetsov with all his new free time:

 

[Redux91]

Kuznetsov with all his new free time:

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More like..

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Gaylord, did you get this on the SKA telegram channel? If you did could you post the link. I used to have it but can’t find it anymore.

No, I got it off the KHL Facebook page

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

Gaylord, did you get this on the SKA telegram channel? If you did could you post the link. I used to have it but can’t find it anymore.

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