Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)

[GlassesJacketShirt]

That's what Slafkovsky averaged up until mid November of last year

To be fair, NHL is a better league and whereas Demidov looks fluid in the KHL, Slafkovsky did not play like a legit top-9 NHLer. League was too fast for him in 2022-23.

Unfortunately for Demidov, it seems like the KHL is too fast for Kuznetsov right now.......or maybe it's way too f***ing slow, depending on nasal activity.

 

[junyab]

Still not worrying about ice time. There is a ton of learning, experience and coaching from the bench, locker room and practices.

 

[Hannibal]

It helps that he has some f*** you to his game, too. He isn't a soft skilled guy. He's not gonna be mean or nasty but he doesn't mind throwing some checks and playing with some bite.

And that’s exactly one of the reason i love him. When a skill guy has some f*** you in his game, it hits home with me.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

To be fair, NHL is a better league and whereas Demidov looks fluid in the KHL, Slafkovsky did not play like a legit top-9 NHLer. League was too fast for him in 2022-23.

Unfortunately for Demidov, it seems like the KHL is too fast for Kuznetsov right now.......or maybe it's way too f***ing slow, depending on nasal activity.

Slaf is an interesting case because he didn't look anywhere near as good as Seguin, but who knows if he would have found his game if he went to the AHL. Maybe he would have found his game faster if he wasn't rushed, but from what we know he was able to find his game from playing limited minutes in the NHL

 

[26Mats]

Demidov played centre fairly often in the MHL, started the playoffs there. He’s stated he prefers to play centre and would be happy to play there if the coaching staff made that decision. I’d be curious to see how he performs if given a chance with SKA, there’s parts of his skill set that would really shine, other aspects that may not.

I’d happily pick a centre in the upcoming draft though. If things work out and we have two or more solid top-6 Cs, the transition to wing is not complicated.

In the Habs post draft videos, one of the scouts said Demidov could be a future number 1 center. I wouldn't be surprised at if he played center for us long term. Imagine we could make it work under the cap to have Demidov-Suzuki-Dach as our top 3 centers.

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

In the Habs post draft videos, one of the scouts said Demidov could be a future number 1 center. I wouldn't be surprised at if he played center for us long term. Imagine we could make it work under the cap to have Demidov-Suzuki-Dach as our top 3 centers.

He's a winger that plays like a center, he drives the play.

 

[26Mats]

He's a winger that plays like a center, he drives the play.

some are saying he may play center in the NHL.

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

some are saying he may play center in the NHL.

I'm sure he can.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

 

[morhilane]

Demidov lost his center...oh no!


That's actually good, Kuzy sucked.

 

[Redux91]

View attachment 910482

Yup, his arm/shoulder was hanging reeeal low

But yeah, he was actually a deterrent really

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Iron sharpens iron, steel sharpens steel. Demidov is gonna come out of that maelstrom a better leader and person. Even Therrien will approve!!

Only if he’s not Soff

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Drew a penalty (would have scored)
Real nice moves on a 1 on 3 but guy went to the net instead of taking the space left back by defenders, so errant pass.
Real nice entry on the PP to get it set up on a high pressured zone entry.

Other than that, not a lot of puck touches for the line, a lot of terrible plays by Kuznetsov and for some reason using him in the bumper on the PP.

Whh hi is the last Habs player that was this much of a play driver/offensive threat like this in your view?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Whh hi is the last Habs player that was this much of a play driver/offensive threat like this in your view?

Kovalev during his good season.

 

[Thomas Sowell]

I'd love to know what his p/60 this year is is compared to michkovs season last year. Anybody have that info?

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

I'd love to know what his p/60 this year is is compared to michkovs season last year. Anybody have that info?

Very valid question

 

[SlafySZN]

I'd love to know what his p/60 this year is is compared to michkovs season last year. Anybody have that info?

They don’t have the same ice time and chances on the first PP. I don’t think it can be compared.

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

They don’t have the same ice time and chances on the first PP. I don’t think it can be compared.

Correct me if wrong but the p/60 is designed for those reasons no? To determine who is the most productive per time played?

 

[Kennerback]

Yeah Michkov was always on the PP from day 1. They gave him good players to play with. And he always had solid ice time every game. No periods where he had only one or two 20 second shifts.

But in Sochi, Michkov was more of an opportunist that would take advantage of a defensive breakdown. He didn’t take control of the play like Demidov does all the time even with his inconsequential ice time.

 

[SlafySZN]

Correct me if wrong but the p/60 is designed for those reasons no? To determine who is the most productive per time played?

Ah, maybe your right i might’ve responded wrong.

But Demidov played 9 games so it should be compared at the end of his season

 

[Kennerback]

View attachment 910482

Gaylord, did you get this on the SKA telegram channel? If you did could you post the link. I used to have it but can’t find it anymore.

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Ah, maybe your right i might’ve responded wrong.

But Demidov played 9 games so it should be compared at the end of his season

I’ll be curious to see the season totals for Demidov as well. I’m also curious to see if he will be given prime opportunities like Michkov was. PP1 and top line minutes. Demidov is so dominant

 

[morhilane]

I'd love to know what his p/60 this year is is compared to michkovs season last year. Anybody have that info?

I had to calculate the p/60 manually so it might not be 100% accurate, the KHL website has a lots of stats but not that one. Michov TOI/g was 16:58 last year, while Demidov is at 13:08 right now.

Demidov in 9 games: 0.778 p/g and ~3.589 p/60
Michkov last year in 48 games: 0.854 p/g and ~3.014 p/60

Demidov p/60 would probably drop if he played a bit more thought.

 

[Redux91]

Correct me if wrong but the p/60 is designed for those reasons no? To determine who is the most productive per time played?

The teams and and opportunities are too different to get an accurate number for this

Per time played =/= playing with top6 players/PP1

If you want Demidovs p/60 then you match it with Michkov's SKA p/60 and not his Sochi p/60

 

[BenchBrawl]

I won't over-analyze his game this season. Watching the occasional highlight will suffice. Too many factors making the situation complex in Russia to really be worth it. See you next year, Ivan!