AngelDuck
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Killorn was a major risky signing since day 1. Looking like a big L for Verbeek there, hope he can rebound a bit.
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robbieboy3686
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He started slowly last season too. He produced at his contract last season.
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He had the excuse of breaking his hand in preseason though. No injury excuse this year.
Hockey Duckie
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I believe the Mac line had an overinflated TOI due to being stuck on ice for what seemed like two minutes in the 2nd period, iirc. If we look at ES TOI, the fourth line played 4th line minutes, but their overall TOI ballooned due to us killing four penalties. Fabbri had over 3 minutes on the PK to lead the forwards with 18:02 total TOI. Terry actually played with Mac and Z b/c Fabbri was tired out from the PK'ing.
Our top-6, it's disappointing. The top line of Cutter-Leo-Killorn line has been kept together all pre-season and Leo-Killorn have been together last season. Still no chemistry. Fabbri-Mac-Z line was put together for one pre-season game. Z went from C to LW to RW in pre-season. Individually, they are putting in the work and therein lies the problem. They're still not cohesive and may need more games to feel each other out.
I just don't like our offense. During the game, I found myself zoning out again like last season. The only excitement we got from this game are from defensive counters, which also explains how our PK unit was able to notch 12 shorties last season.
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Hockey Duckie
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Since the GDT thread closed, guess this is the place to share the stat card for the game.
The Mac line is yeesh in this metric!
The Mac line is yeesh in this metric!
MMC
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Cutter - Leo - Terry
Vatrano - McTavish - Zegras
Fabbri - Strome - Killer
4th line
Put the two garbage free agent signings on the 3rd line where they belong. Strome should not be centering any line that is expected to score regularly. If they insist on spreading the offensive talent around, then he needs to go to wing.
Cutter - Leo - Killer
Fabbri - McTavish - Terry
Vatrano - Zegras - Strome
4th line
I want to see the first lineup personally.
Vatrano - McTavish - Zegras
Fabbri - Strome - Killer
4th line
Put the two garbage free agent signings on the 3rd line where they belong. Strome should not be centering any line that is expected to score regularly. If they insist on spreading the offensive talent around, then he needs to go to wing.
Cutter - Leo - Killer
Fabbri - McTavish - Terry
Vatrano - Zegras - Strome
4th line
I want to see the first lineup personally.
MMC
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As a change in protocol, can we start a post-game thread or leave the game day thread open until the next game to continue discussion?
I really hope Verbeek pulls trades very early into the season and not kill the team at the deadline.
If we could get the following trade returns (maybe add picks on our side to get it done), I think we would have a more complete lineup:
Gibson for COL Colton, Geogiev - Ross would give us a faceoff ace, is a good physical complementary player that is still pretty young. and won a cup which PV likes.
Fowler (50% retained) for NASH Surin - We don't really have forwards that have Surin's edge. We might need to take a bad contract back from Nash.
Vaakanainen, Reimer for Liljegren, Myers - We would add 2 RHDs with different profiles which would allow Z and TL to be called up only when they are ready which is more ideal.
Vatrano - Mac - Strome (Why not keep last years top line together?)
Zegras - Colton - Terry
Gauthier - Carlsson - Killorn (Fabri has a better pace for than Killorn, but we are still with him in the top 9)
Fabri- Leason - Lundy
Bench: Johnston, McGinn
Callup: Gauthier, Nesterenko, Regenda
Lacombe - Liljegren
Minty - Gudas
Dumoulin - Myers
Callup Rotation: LHD Zellweger, RHD Luneau
Dostal
Georgiev
If we could get the following trade returns (maybe add picks on our side to get it done), I think we would have a more complete lineup:
Gibson for COL Colton, Geogiev - Ross would give us a faceoff ace, is a good physical complementary player that is still pretty young. and won a cup which PV likes.
Fowler (50% retained) for NASH Surin - We don't really have forwards that have Surin's edge. We might need to take a bad contract back from Nash.
Vaakanainen, Reimer for Liljegren, Myers - We would add 2 RHDs with different profiles which would allow Z and TL to be called up only when they are ready which is more ideal.
Vatrano - Mac - Strome (Why not keep last years top line together?)
Zegras - Colton - Terry
Gauthier - Carlsson - Killorn (Fabri has a better pace for than Killorn, but we are still with him in the top 9)
Fabri- Leason - Lundy
Bench: Johnston, McGinn
Callup: Gauthier, Nesterenko, Regenda
Lacombe - Liljegren
Minty - Gudas
Dumoulin - Myers
Callup Rotation: LHD Zellweger, RHD Luneau
Dostal
Georgiev
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I want my unhinged, reactionary hot takes to be in the proper context for each game dammit!
MMC
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How does this make us a better team? This is essentially just making trades for the sake of it
Dumping Gibson's contract and potential drama created if Dostal takes the lead by season's end would be a win. Colton would be a big addition for a team that is soft and can't win faceoffs, and there is no way we could add someone like him without overpaying with a Strome type contract. The new RHDs give balance and players in their prime at 25/27 years old versus two 20-year-old top prospects still learning the pro game forced into an already young blueline. I think this would make us a steadier team to compete over the course of the season, with ideally our prospects eventually pushing though.
MMC
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We don’t need Colton at $4M for the next two seasons after this one, we have enough centers already. Myers is a tweener, we could’ve signed Lindstrom if we wanted that, and Liljegren is not the type of RHD we need. Fowler shouldn’t be traded now unless some team is overpaying and I don’t consider Surin that
Zergas needs to play center, and reward Lundestrom for his play + he’s good at holding onto the puck.
Gauthier - Carlsson - Lundestrom
Fabbri - Zegras - Terry
Vatrano - McTavish - Killorn
McGinn - Strome - Leason
Or
Gauthier - Carlsson - Lundestrom
Killorn - Zegras - Terry
Vatrano - McTavish - Strome
McGinn - X/Gaucher - Leason
Gauthier - Carlsson - Lundestrom
Fabbri - Zegras - Terry
Vatrano - McTavish - Killorn
McGinn - Strome - Leason
Or
Gauthier - Carlsson - Lundestrom
Killorn - Zegras - Terry
Vatrano - McTavish - Strome
McGinn - X/Gaucher - Leason
Second time I'm asking, why does this matter? Honeymoon bliss got his ability to make basic plays all f***ed up? Like I said last night I can understand Terry having a somewhat valid excuse if he's got a newborn keeping him up at night, but I don't see why getting married should be detrimental to on ice play.
Yeah no problem. We don’t have enough posts here in a GDT to have a PGT. So will just keep it open till when the next GDT is posted.
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None of our centers have shown to consistently win faceoffs and we are still soft up front. Myers is a tweener but there's no point of having 3 goalies with Reimer/Dansk if we picked up Georgiev, but at least he has size that we have little of and is only 27 years old. Surin would be an overpay, you are dreaming if you think we can get more than a late 1st round return for Cam with retention. Surin is the Solberg version up front in the 2024 draft.
you just reminded me how lousy our team is. All prospects hoping to explode. Thats all we got.
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I like that top grouping... but might run the line up we have right now for another couple games before i press the eject button
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I dont mind the Gibson trade .... Colton would be a great add, but id also prefer to chase Bennet in the off season.
-Gibson for Georgiev + 26 1st (or 25+26 2nds)
Fowler trade seems pretty meh, id hope wed be able to figure out something better in a fowler trade.
The last trade is just confusing across the board... liljegren just doesnt make a ton of sense in terms of fit.... myers makes little to no sense... and Reimer is just waiver fodder.... and vaaks is a solid 7 for us.
This is the terrifying truth. Through our absolute shit years we weren't able to draft 1st and get that bonafide superstar to build around so it's a lot of hope and prayers.
