2024-25 Roster Thread #1: The Beginninging

JojoTheWhale

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They've built forward depth, one reason Lycksell is in LHV is he can't break into the top 9 right now, and they don't want him playing 8 minutes a night on the 4th line (Cates, Poehling, Hathaway all play on the PK as well).

At least check these things out before resorting to platitudes.

The difference between Hathaway (lowest lineup constant) and Luchanko is just over a minute of 5v5 time per game. The only player anywhere near 8 minutes is Deslauriers. This team rolls lines. You can expect about a minute difference between 3rd and 4th lines. Couturier only plays 4 mins/night more than the 4th line. It’s a non-issue.
 

Beef Invictus

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That "8 minutes on a 4th line" bit comes up every year as a reason why no prospect can ever play on the 4th line, and every year the 4th line plays well more than that.

And gee, if you improve the 4th line with some prospect instead of Deslaurier's bloated carcass, then you can play the 4th line more, too.
 

deadhead

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At least check these things out before resorting to platitudes.

The difference between Hathaway (lowest lineup constant) and Luchanko is just over a minute of 5v5 time per game. The only player anywhere near 8 minutes is Deslauriers. This team rolls lines. You can expect about a minute difference between 3rd and 4th lines. Couturier only plays 4 mins/night more than the 4th line. It’s a non-issue.
Think Richard is getting a cameo b/c of speed and offense, they've gotten faster but I think Briere wants to add more speed up front going forward. But I don't think Richard is good enough to stick.

I think Lycksell is NHL ready, but whose minutes you gonna cut?

Poehling 2:13, Hathaway 2:00, Cates 1:34 on the PK. And it's a top 5 group.
Foerster or Brink? Brink plays on the PP. As does Foerster.

Might have to wait to see if Laughton gets moved near the TDL, that would open up a spot.
 
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mja

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Think Richard is getting a cameo b/c of speed and offense, they've gotten faster but I think Briere wants to add more speed up front going forward. But I don't think Richard is good enough to stick.

I think Lycksell is NHL ready, but whose minutes you gonna cut?

Poehling 2:13, Hathaway 2:00, Cates 1:34 on the PK. And it's a top 5 group.
Foerster or Brink? Brink plays on the PP. As does Foerster.

Might have to wait to see if Laughton gets moved near the TDL, that would open up a spot.
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BillDineen

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My assumption with Frost is that they will extend him for 1 year and trade him by next year's deadline. Luchenko will either make it next year or the year after and they will likely get a center in the draft that may be able to play in the near future. Does anyone think differently?
 

ajgoal

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Nope, they crash straight into a fiery volcano and on their way down they take out the last female of a dying species of bird.
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deadhead

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My assumption with Frost is that they will extend him for 1 year and trade him by next year's deadline. Luchenko will either make it next year or the year after and they will likely get a center in the draft that may be able to play in the near future. Does anyone think differently?
I can see him packaged with a draft pick/asset to go after a young center they feel is a better fit.

My player who's a bit of a disappointment for your player who hasn't lived up to expectations kind of deal.

They're almost certain to take at least one center in this draft, probably 2 in the first 2 rounds.
I think center and defense are the two areas where they will stockpile prospects.
They have goalies, and centers can move to wing, but most wings can't move to center.
 

blackjackmulligan

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I can see him packaged with a draft pick/asset to go after a young center they feel is a better fit.

My player who's a bit of a disappointment for your player who hasn't lived up to expectations kind of deal.

They're almost certain to take at least one center in this draft, probably 2 in the first 2 rounds.
I think center and defense are the two areas where they will stockpile prospects.
They have goalies, and centers can move to wing, but most wings can't move to center.
Agree. However, it will be for a vert player if I had to guess.

Also agree with your first paragraph.
 

tymed

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There's a lot of contrast of opinions on Frost, of course, but barring all the nuances, I'm curious as to what people actually want to do with him going forward. Some more basic questions though just for discussion:

Where does he fit for you in this lineup going into a future past this season? 1C? 2C? 3C? LW?

What kind of contract would you be looking to sign with him after this year?

What are some comparables, if off the top of your head, as a player and as a contract?

I'm not really sure what the reasonable scenarios are with his contract going forward here, but I do know that we already have a bunch of shit ones.
 

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