2024-25 Roster Thread #1: The Beginninging

[deadhead]

Tippett averages 27 goals, 51 points the last two years. Is that a placeholder?
TK, Sanheim, York, Farabee?

 

[Curufinwe]

Anyone with 7+ years left is core. The Flyers almost never trade anyone lol

 

[BiggE]

Players on current roster who should be considered core players for building a contender in 4-5 years:
Michkov
York

Players on the current roster with potential to become core players:
Foerster
Brink

Players who could be useful but aren’t critical to building said contender:
Drysdale
Ersson
Farabee
Frost
Cates
Tippett

Players who we are stuck with because they were re-signed rather than dealt:
Couturier
Konecny
Laughton
Sanheim
Fisto
Seeler
Hathaway

 

[BernieParent]

Players on current roster who should be considered core players for building a contender in 4-5 years:
Michkov
York

Players on the current roster with potential to become core players:
Foerster
Brink

Players who could be useful but aren’t critical to building said contender:
Drysdale
Ersson
Farabee
Frost
Cates
Tippett

Players who we are stuck with because they were re-signed rather than dealt:
Couturier
Konecny
Laughton
Sanheim
Fisto
Seeler
Hathaway

Good list, Big. I'd move Ersson to potential for core and Andrae in useful but not critical. Goaltending is about the only position where I believe the Flyers have a high chance of having the long-term answer in house.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1856019999757902180

Oof.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Drysdale was placed on IR apparently.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Drysdale was placed on IR apparently.

Hope he stays there, gets forgotten and everyone can move on.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Drysdale was placed on IR apparently.

#shocked...

 

[Striiker]

Now Frost is a healthy scratch?

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Now Frost is a healthy scratch?

shocked right ?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Briere has shown no sign he has any interest in Hayes/JVR signings, Niskanen type trades, etc.
They've built forward depth, one reason Lycksell is in LHV is he can't break into the top 9 right now, and they don't want him playing 8 minutes a night on the 4th line (Cates, Poehling, Hathaway all play on the PK as well).

What they need is more top 6/top 4 talent.

Forward depth!?!?!?! They're one Couturier or TK injury away from being dead in the water! They have nothing in the wings. Nothing.

If the Flyers share your devotion to antiquated 70s visions of 4th lines then it's a major insight into why they're nonstop failures in a cap era that emphasizes efficiency over all.


Briere just signed Tippett for eternity. That's a Hayes/JVR-tier signing; and I'm not using hindsight here, please recall I urgently urged that they trade him at peak value instead of doing what they did. He traded for Johnson. That's the crackhead's version of trading for Niskanen.

 

[dats81]

Players on current roster who should be considered core players for building a contender in 4-5 years:
Michkov
York

Players on the current roster with potential to become core players:
Foerster
Brink

Players who could be useful but aren’t critical to building said contender:
Drysdale
Ersson
Farabee
Frost
Cates
Tippett

Players who we are stuck with because they were re-signed rather than dealt:
Couturier
Konecny
Laughton
Sanheim
Fisto
Seeler
Hathaway

Travis Konecny and Travis Sanheim in the "stuck with" category sounds a little harsh.
Both are legit and young enough to still contribute in 3-5 years. Similar to what Kimmo Timonen and Dany Briere meant to the 2010ish Flyers.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Flyers should have signed Tyanulin this past summer. He played in NA for 5 years so didn't need to get used to new culture and spoke English fluently. He's natural LW, played with Michkov for 2 seasons and had great chemistry with him. And he can play hockey. He's PPG right now on shity Sochi team, and he's one of those players who can play both top6 and bottom6 roles equally well. Great skater, gritty, can PK and very skilled.

He's certanly better than Richards and any other Flyers LW but probably Farabee and Tippett. And even then he's certainly smarter than Tippett and can pass. The only problem he's small. But if the same size Andrae can play defense then Tyanulin could play LW for sure.

Artur Tyanulin - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Artur Tyanulin, 1997-01-20 Kazan, RUS Russia. Most recently in the KHL with HK Sochi. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

 

[Appleyard]

Flyers should have signed Tyanulin this past summer. He played in NA for 5 years so didn't need to get used to new culture and spoke English fluently. He's natural LW, played with Michkov for 2 seasons and had great chemistry with him. And he can play hockey. He's PPG right now on shity Sochi team, and he's one of those players who can play both top6 and bottom6 roles equally well. Great skater, gritty, can PK and very skilled.

He's certanly better than Richards and any other Flyers LW but probably Farabee and Tippett. And even then he's certainly smarter than Tippett and can pass. The only problem he's small. But if the same size Andrae can play defense then Tyanulin could play LW for sure.

Artur Tyanulin - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Artur Tyanulin, 1997-01-20 Kazan, RUS Russia. Most recently in the KHL with HK Sochi. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

And he is a lovely guy ahaha.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Charlie thinks they send down one of the goalies when York comes back. Either Koloslov or put Fedotov through waivers.

I’m not saying that’s the wrong choice given what you’re looking at currently but it’s hilarious they got to this point. Bad moves/evaluations compounding themselves.

 

[renberg]

Charlie thinks they send down one of the goalies when York comes back. Either Koloslov or put Fedotov through waivers.

I’m not saying that’s the wrong choice given what you’re looking at currently but it’s hilarious they got to this point. Bad moves/evaluations compounding themselves.

If Fedotov was to get claimed, so what? The organization loses a contract which they could well afford to do. Kolosov looks to be the better of the two Russian goalies at this point. Makiniemi is with them at LV if they need to bring up a third goalie for whatever reason.

 

[deadhead]

Fedotov looked much better his last game.
Better a numbers crunch than a shortage.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

If Fedotov was to get claimed, so what? The organization loses a contract which they could well afford to do. Kolosov looks to be the better of the two Russian goalies at this point. Makiniemi is with them at LV if they need to bring up a third goalie for whatever reason.

Well yeah but nobody is claiming him with that contract so that’s a moot point. My point was they paid this guy a decent contract & we’re already at place where we’re considering possibly sending him down tot he minors. That’s a bad evaluation/move.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Well yeah but nobody is claiming him with that contract so that’s a moot point. My point was they paid this guy a decent contract & we’re already at place where we’re considering possibly sending him down tot he minors. That’s a bad evaluation/move.

beaf***ingFlyer!!!

 

[freakydallas13]

Drysdale was placed on IR apparently.

You just know it's an optics thing.

"Look! He's on the IR! We isn't coming out because he's been awful, it's because he's hurt! No need to panic!"

 

[freakydallas13]

Fedotov looked much better his last game.
Better a numbers crunch than a shortage.

One game? Briere should be drafting that extension as we speak.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

One game? Briere should be drafting that extension as we speak.

His last game is the only start of his career where he had a save percentage over 0.839!

Clearly he's NHL ready now.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

They've built forward depth, one reason Lycksell is in LHV is he can't break into the top 9 right now, and they don't want him playing 8 minutes a night on the 4th line (Cates, Poehling, Hathaway all play on the PK as well).

At least check these things out before resorting to platitudes.

The difference between Hathaway (lowest lineup constant) and Luchanko is just over a minute of 5v5 time per game. The only player anywhere near 8 minutes is Deslauriers. This team rolls lines. You can expect about a minute difference between 3rd and 4th lines. Couturier only plays 4 mins/night more than the 4th line. It’s a non-issue.

 

[Beef Invictus]

That "8 minutes on a 4th line" bit comes up every year as a reason why no prospect can ever play on the 4th line, and every year the 4th line plays well more than that.

And gee, if you improve the 4th line with some prospect instead of Deslaurier's bloated carcass, then you can play the 4th line more, too.

 

[deadhead]

At least check these things out before resorting to platitudes.

The difference between Hathaway (lowest lineup constant) and Luchanko is just over a minute of 5v5 time per game. The only player anywhere near 8 minutes is Deslauriers. This team rolls lines. You can expect about a minute difference between 3rd and 4th lines. Couturier only plays 4 mins/night more than the 4th line. It’s a non-issue.

Think Richard is getting a cameo b/c of speed and offense, they've gotten faster but I think Briere wants to add more speed up front going forward. But I don't think Richard is good enough to stick.

I think Lycksell is NHL ready, but whose minutes you gonna cut?

Poehling 2:13, Hathaway 2:00, Cates 1:34 on the PK. And it's a top 5 group.
Foerster or Brink? Brink plays on the PP. As does Foerster.

Might have to wait to see if Laughton gets moved near the TDL, that would open up a spot.