2024-25 Roster Thread #1: The Beginninging

[VladDrag]

@JojoTheWhale - have you seen the ice won/ice lost part of Micah’s sG model?

Just saw it now.

 

[trostol]

I feel like we went from " no way he sticks" to " defensively elite and won't be a liability" really fast.

 

[deadhead]

Please remember we had this discussion when they draft another Jack Berglund or Hunter McDonald.

McDonald was a 6th rd pick. Any offense you get from him (like Seeler) is a bonus.
I'm more interested in whether he can use his size and skating to be a plus defender, just has to make that first pass out of the D-zone consistently and not handle the puck like a grenade.

Berglund will be interesting to watch, dominating J20, pushing for a starting job in the SHL at 18 (started 4 of 7 games so far). Probably depends to what extend he improves his skating.

 

[deadhead]

and you got all that from a couple of pre-season games and camp? dude you shoulda totally been a scout

Thank you.
Never saw him out of position or caught up ice.
And he's smooth. Didn't make a lot of highlight reel offensive plays (though some good passes).
Looked better to me than Frost did at 20.

If Torts wants a longer look, you know he's fundamentally sound, b/c he's not Michkov.
That is, with someone like Michkov, Torts has already said he'll be patient with the defense, etc.
But I doubt he feels that way about Luchanko, who isn't an elite offensive forward.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

not one person could have called this... not one

 

[CerpinTaxt]

So the Flyers are keeping an 18 year old with underwhelming offence on the team not because he's amazing defensively, but because he's fast and unlikely to be a defensive liability? That's it? That describes like 30-40% of the forwards in any given 1st round of any given year.

Congrats, we have another Justin Williams. So glad they are foregoing CHL development for this.

To be fair if Luchanko became Williams that would actually be a good pick for 13th overall.

To also be fair if Luchanko is going to develop into Williams it's definitely not gonna be while he's on the Flyers

 

[JojoTheWhale]

@JojoTheWhale - have you seen the ice won/ice lost part of Micah’s sG model?

Just saw it now.

I am extremely interested to see how it compares to anything that uses Sznajder’s data.

 

[freakydallas13]

To be fair if Luchanko became Williams that would actually be a good pick for 13th overall.

To also be fair if Luchanko is going to develop into Williams it's definitely not gonna be while he's on the Flyers

Yeah, I definitely meant to type Justin Baily, and not Justin Williams. I'd also be happy if Luchanko became Justin Williams.

 

[FlyerNutter]

They just don’t value offense. Talent. I dunno.

I watched the Danny presser. St Louis keeps being brought up.

“we don’t need those superstars” same old bullshit.

McDavid. Matthews. Bedard. Crosby. Ovechkin. Kucherov.

They better hope to hell Michkov is in that tier.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I'm liking the lines to start the season:

Michkov-Couturier-Konecny
Tippett-Frost-Foerster
Farabee-Luchanko-Brink
Laughton-Poehling-Hathaway
Cates/Deslauriers

York-Sanheim
Zamula-Ristolainen
Seeler-Drysdale

Ersson
Fedotov

PP1
Frost
Tippett-TK-Michkov
Drysdale

PP2
Farabee
Foerster-Brink-Luchanko
Zamula

I don't get the consternation about Luchanko.

He's getting significant minutes to start the season: 3C, PP2, and apparently will kill penalties, also.

If he does well in those significant minutes, then he's earned his roster spot.

If he looks out of place in significant minutes, then he goes back to the OHL. Easy peasy.

The big concern would be him getting buried in the lineup and receiving minimal playing time, but he doesn't exactly have a ton of competition at 3C.

So as long as he can hold his own in the NHL to the point of playing more than 8-10 minutes a night, I'll be ok with him staying.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Exaggeration much?
He's fundamentally sound and has elite speed.
So he's unlikely to be a defensive liability.
All that means if he struggles offensively, he's not a huge liability, leaking goals.

And he certainly doesn't have stone hands (now Poehling . . .) he's a good passer, his shot is undeveloped at this point.

I'd still be surprised if he sticks, I expect against real competition his inexperience will show.
But it'll resolve itself, if he's overmatched it's an easy decision.


German is pretty generic.
Is she "beer garden waitress" German?
Or Berlin underground German?

Fundamentally sound how? When has that been established? We do not know that.

 

[The Last Red]

not one person could have called this... not one

Torts is basically a part of upper management here, which, given his lack of any great success as a coach in the last twenty years, is hard to understand. I don’t think he’ll ever be “fired” here, just moved up to upper management to run the organization with Briere and Jones. I think they see him as a sort of coaching philosopher king. I just think he’s a freakin’ bully with a ginormous ego.