I have no idea what Bylsma thinks, but I expect eventually Schwartz will find his way into a limited minutes role. His body isn't going to hold up to big minutes. As the season goes on Tolvy will eventually play ahead of him.
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I have no idea what Bylsma thinks, but I expect eventually Schwartz will find his way into a limited minutes role. His body isn't going to hold up to big minutes. As the season goes on Tolvy will eventually play ahead of him.
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Oilers fan coming in peace. What do you guys think happens with Will Borgen? He's of course a UFA after this year but doesn't look like he'll ever get a crack at top four duties in Seattle. Could the Oilers pry him loose before the season starts, especially if a younger guy is pushing for a job right now?
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You are right. It's unlikely he cracks our top-4. Montour, Larsson, Dunn are guarantees there. I put Evans ahead of Borgen.
That being said, I think it is unlikely we move him before the TDL. And the only way I see even that happening is if the team feels that Mahura can replace his productivity AND someone like Ottavainen is ready for bottom pairing minutes. Which I think is pretty unlikely.
Realistically, I just see him walk next off-season.
I like that your realistic view is that we aren't in the standings position where we'd be selling at the TDL. Not my realism, but I like the positivity. I personally expect us to be sellers and Borgen to fetch a pretty penny.
Fistfullofbeer
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I know we won't be buyers at the TDL. But I can see us be sellers if we are not in the playoff race around the TDL.
Moving Borgen and Gourde could both get us a really good return. Borgen is the likeliest to get moved b, but depending on how far out we are in the race, I can see Gourde being moved too. It is likely Francis trys to get him back on a deal similar to Eberle's but I would really like to start opening spots for the kids who are looking more and more ready to step in.
Tanev is another candidate b,ut I doubt he has that many suitors unless he has a really good run and we decide to retain on him.
reminder we have 4k of cap space and can't have a full roster of players and any small minor tiny injury = automatically LTIR.
I can see us being sellers, too. I think it is the smart thing to do. With the kids on their way up, I think we have a few players that other teams might value, and I hope we maximize these assets in the form of picking up added draft picks. Borgen and Gourde would certainly be in that category, valuable to a degree but expendable.
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Yep. We need to keep our options open. But Francis needs to make the playoffs this season with how he spent during FA. Unless some of our prospects like Winterton, Morrisson, Lloed, etc. have already beat out the vets, I can see some trades being made. However, a lot of it will also depend on our standings at the TDL in addition to the above. Unless we are not looking competitive at all and completely out of the playoff race, I don't see Francis selling.
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what are the main open question storylines this year as you guys see them?
for example as an outsider at a glance I would suppose the #1 most impt issue is the emergence / establishment of Beniers and Wright as legit anchors. if those two hit their potential it seems like the kraken can be a legit team. but what do you guys see?
I don't know where it ranks on the list for you guys but "how does Montour impact them?" is pretty high on the list for me
for example as an outsider at a glance I would suppose the #1 most impt issue is the emergence / establishment of Beniers and Wright as legit anchors. if those two hit their potential it seems like the kraken can be a legit team. but what do you guys see?
I don't know where it ranks on the list for you guys but "how does Montour impact them?" is pretty high on the list for me
You pretty much covered it.
I don't expect much from Stephenson or most of our other veterans so it's really about Beniers and Wright, and seeing how much of an impact Montour has.
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There's a narrative around our goalkeeping too. If it's like last year and Daccord plays more than Gru and better.
Agree with above comments.
My overarching concern is will we score enough goals to be competitive? Will our centres especially make progress and contribute to the hoped for improvement?
Outside of that, I don't know what I am more concerned/curious about--Wright/Beniers taking big steps forwards or our goaltenders performing at a high enough level for us to make the playoffs. If either of those factors go seriously askew, our chances of making the playoffs go flying out the window. And I am really looking forward to see what impact Montour is going to have on our defensive game. Our top six D are pretty solid--so I want to see what Montour adds to the mix.
Finally, what difference will Bylsma and the new coaching approach make? Can we not back pass our way into the offensive zone the exact same way every power play, for instance, please, please?
My overarching concern is will we score enough goals to be competitive? Will our centres especially make progress and contribute to the hoped for improvement?
Outside of that, I don't know what I am more concerned/curious about--Wright/Beniers taking big steps forwards or our goaltenders performing at a high enough level for us to make the playoffs. If either of those factors go seriously askew, our chances of making the playoffs go flying out the window. And I am really looking forward to see what impact Montour is going to have on our defensive game. Our top six D are pretty solid--so I want to see what Montour adds to the mix.
Finally, what difference will Bylsma and the new coaching approach make? Can we not back pass our way into the offensive zone the exact same way every power play, for instance, please, please?
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Split on PP1 QB, it looks like? 1 for Dunn, 1 person for Montour. Dunn looked good last year, but Montour is built for that role. I'm torn
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nothing's fine you're torn. you're all out of faith, this is how you feel. you are cold and you are shamed, lying naked on the floor?
there's nothing wrong with two strong PPQBs
there's nothing wrong with two strong PPQBs
After todays waivers and send downs. My guess seattle does nothing and stick with 21 guys and being screwed in terms of calling players up in case of small minor minor injuries that can't be LTIR'd so Winterton (send down) with hayden and one of Fleury or Mahura will have to be wived.
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With Cale being sent down, that leaves Hayden, Winterton and Mahura fighting for that last roster spot if nobody moves, if I’m reading things correctly???
I know Sale is still on the roster as well, but I think that’s more for development with the NHL coaching staff than him being a guy with a shot to make the roster, but I could be wrong and heck, he could already have been sent down.
That begs the question. Who stays OR who gets traded to keep the 3 of them. I hate the cap gymnastics.
I know Sale is still on the roster as well, but I think that’s more for development with the NHL coaching staff than him being a guy with a shot to make the roster, but I could be wrong and heck, he could already have been sent down.
That begs the question. Who stays OR who gets traded to keep the 3 of them. I hate the cap gymnastics.
As off right now. its Hayden vs Mahura for 1 spot. Does seattle go 13/6 or do they go 12/7? We can't afford to keep Winterton on roster.
Sale was sent down already.
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13/6 or 12/7?
I thought it was 23 players max(22 is mostly done for some cover in case of injuries) on an active roster which means 13/7 or 12/8 + 2 goalies.
With Fleury being waived I think it's going to be 13/7 unless they can't do it because of financial reasons.
Overall I think Winterton starts in CV given that Hayden got a fully guaranteed $750K deal and no team wants to send those guys down. He's also not a young guy anymore and sitting him in the press box is not going to slow down his development.
So I think it will be:
Forwards:
Beniers, Bjorkstrand, Burakovsky, Eberle, Gourde, Hayden, Kartye, McCann, Schwartz, Stephenson, Tanev, Tolvanen, Wright
Defense:
Dunn, Montour, Larsson, Oleksiak, Evans, Borgen, Mahoura
Goal:
Grubauer, D'Accord
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