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Calder race is already over, Michkov has won. He's been in the news multiple times before Christmas.

Doesn't matter that Stankoven has been better, doesn't matter what happens from this point forward.
 
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on think on defense trade targets on defense the stars should look at these rentals
Gavrikov
Petterson
Maata

I see articles saying they should go after guys with term but the stars are still cap f***ed from having to sign johnston this offseason. They should prob pay to dump in all honesty.

On forwards, stamkos/malkin and a lot of guys with term just don't fit for next season. I think Kakko is really great add going forward, you can give him a bridge deal next season. If you want just a rental gourde, kerfoot, vetrano, and granlund(prob too expensive) would be great adds for the right price.

idk.

edit: i just saw daily faceoff thing if they really want to do that they need to pay to move Lyubushkin and dumba lol.
 
Why would you move Lyubushkin? You need RHDs and he is doing his job. Dumba on their other can be moved as he is useless.

I would also be curious who they considered “big name, big ticket”. Also not a fan of moving stankoven. I don’t know who would actually be available that would be worth moving stankoven.
 
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roryjones said:
Why would you move Lyubushkin? You need RHDs and he is doing his job. Dumba on their other can be moved as he is useless.

I would also be curious who they considered “big name, big ticket”. Also not a fan of moving stankoven. I don’t know who would actually be available that would be worth moving stankoven.
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Doubt they’ll move him. Maybe Petan and Satan’s son though.
 
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roryjones said:
Why would you move Lyubushkin? You need RHDs and he is doing his job. Dumba on their other can be moved as he is useless.

I would also be curious who they considered “big name, big ticket”. Also not a fan of moving stankoven. I don’t know who would actually be available that would be worth moving stankoven.
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Yeah, they aren't moving their #2 PKer.

But both Dumba and Lundkvist essentially play no role on either the PP or PK, making them guys you can lose.
 
roryjones said:
Why would you move Lyubushkin? You need RHDs and he is doing his job. Dumba on their other can be moved as he is useless.

I would also be curious who they considered “big name, big ticket”. Also not a fan of moving stankoven. I don’t know who would actually be available that would be worth moving stankoven.
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He is worse than dumba. I don't rate dumba but people are overly critical of him. Like advanced stats support this assessment. Lyubushkin always has trouble clearing the zone and he is a bigger giveaway machine than dumba. Idk why people focus on dumba.

Troy McClure said:
Yeah, they aren't moving their #2 PKer.

But both Dumba and Lundkvist essentially play no role on either the PP or PK, making them guys you can lose.
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I think Lundkvist is a legit top 4 dman and should be on the 2nd pp
 
too374 said:
He is worse than dumba. I don't rate dumba but people are overly critical of him. Like advanced stats support this assessment. Lyubushkin always has trouble clearing the zone and he is a bigger giveaway machine than dumba. Idk why people focus on dumba.


I think Lundkvist is a legit top 4 dman and should be on the 2nd pp
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Miro and Harley have the PP1 and PP2 spots locked up for likely the next decade.

I don't believe Spott has ever run 2D on a PP before (outside of garbage time).
 
LT said:
Miro and Harley have the PP1 and PP2 spots locked up for likely the next decade.

I don't believe Spott has ever run 2D on a PP before (outside of garbage time).
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Idk last night they were double shifting Miro on the PP, I haven't been able to watch every game in the past month. I think Harley is elite in transition and in his own zone. I've never been enamoured by his ability pp quarterbacking on the blueline.
 
too374 said:
He is worse than dumba. I don't rate dumba but people are overly critical of him. Like advanced stats support this assessment. Lyubushkin always has trouble clearing the zone and he is a bigger giveaway machine than dumba. Idk why people focus on dumba.


I think Lundkvist is a legit top 4 dman and should be on the 2nd pp
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Wild stuff, but I appreciate u
 
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Lyubushkin's play has dipped since they paired him with Miro. I think we have to face the fact that Miro is just difficult to play with.

That's the annoying thing about shoehorning Dumba into the lineup somewhere. They've hidden him with Harley and the results for Dumba have been better but that's sacrificed the very effective Harley-Lyubushkin pair in the process.
 
too374 said:
Idk last night they were double shifting Miro on the PP, I haven't been able to watch every game in the past month. I think Harley is elite in transition and in his own zone. I've never been enamoured by his ability pp quarterbacking on the blueline.
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They've been double shifting Miro on the PP since the beginning of last season. They've decided to not give him any PK time and to instead play him the majority of every PP.

I like Harley better on the PP. I think his point shot is better at getting on net, and he's more willing to skate with the puck on the PP. Miro is too passive.
 
Troy McClure said:
They've been double shifting Miro on the PP since the beginning of last season. They've decided to not give him any PK time and to instead play him the majority of every PP.

I like Harley better on the PP. I think his point shot is better at getting on net, and he's more willing to skate with the puck on the PP. Miro is too passive.
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Miro's seen a massive decline in his PP #s this year (not a shocker, we've all seen the powerplay). He was above average relative to his peers last year, but I never understood why he was getting double shifted over Harley

2024-25
1.99 pts/60 (34 of 38 D w/ 50+ mins of PP TOI)
0.46 ixG/60 (32 of 38 D w/ 50+ mins of PP TOI)

2023-24
5.41 pts/60 (16 of 38 D w/ 150+ mins of PP TOI)
0.97 ixG/60 (6 of 38 D w/ 150+ mins of PP TOI)
 
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too374 said:
on think on defense trade targets on defense the stars should look at these rentals
Gavrikov
Petterson
Maata

I see articles saying they should go after guys with term but the stars are still cap f***ed from having to sign johnston this offseason. They should prob pay to dump in all honesty.

On forwards, stamkos/malkin and a lot of guys with term just don't fit for next season. I think Kakko is really great add going forward, you can give him a bridge deal next season. If you want just a rental gourde, kerfoot, vetrano, and granlund(prob too expensive) would be great adds for the right price.

idk.

edit: i just saw daily faceoff thing if they really want to do that they need to pay to move Lyubushkin and dumba lol.
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I thought they were losing a few contracts after this season? I know Benn is one…assuming he will be resigned for smaller amount. I haven’t looked, but thought next year they were gonna have a good amount freed up.
 
BlueGoose27 said:
I thought they were losing a few contracts after this season? I know Benn is one…assuming he will be resigned for smaller amount. I haven’t looked, but thought next year they were gonna have a good amount freed up.
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this was back of the napkiny 100k left

I thing Duchene Is prob entitled to more, and johnston is same as robo deal in the absolute but lower cap % bc cap has gone up a bunch. They might bridge or take him to ufa to get a lower hit but he will not be cheap. I just put 92mil for cap next season idk what it will be. Benn could ask for less and the 4th liners will get a very small raise bc the cap league wide will go up. Blackwell and dadanov are placeholder basically
 
Troy McClure said:
They've been double shifting Miro on the PP since the beginning of last season. They've decided to not give him any PK time and to instead play him the majority of every PP.

I like Harley better on the PP. I think his point shot is better at getting on net, and he's more willing to skate with the puck on the PP. Miro is too passive.
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I think they both lack the lateral movement that really good pp specialists have. If you watch miro on the point he always moves toward his strongside as he receives pucks, it makes it easier for the high pk'er to close him down. When klingberg was in his prime he would receive and was much better about being able to go either direction creating more space for himself and opening shooting lanes. The movement there is so important and I think its one of the reasons it often looks like the stars power players are just standing around some times. A lot of it is their inability to drag pkers out of position.

maybe I'm talking out my ass I only played hockey till I was 16 and was pretty ass, I only started to pay attention to this stuff after reading about soccer tactics.
 
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The Stars have shown interest in Pittsburgh Penguins defenceman Marcus Pettersson in the past and could circle back on him this season – however, he will be a hot commodity leading up to the trade deadline.
In addition to Pettersson, the Stars could pursue the likes of Montreal’s David Savard or Mike Matheson, Columbus’ Ivan Provorov, and Anaheim’s Cam Fowler, all of whom are believed to be available this season.
Up front, the Stars will have a variety of forwards to ponder, such as Brock Nelson and Kyle Palmieri of the New York Islanders, Gustav Nyquist of the Nashville Predators, and even Taylor Hall of the Chicago Blackhawks, among others.
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www.thefourthperiod.com

Stars to explore all options to strengthen roster — The Fourth Period

The Stars are expected to be active on the trade front later this season as the try to bolster their roster.
www.thefourthperiod.com www.thefourthperiod.com
 
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