dracom
Registered User
Dont want Cryjo anywhere near this team.
There are big gaps between being brutally honest sugarcoating it, and creating false expectations. I know of multiple season ticket holders who’ve decided that they’re tired of being misled and dropped their tickets.That’s because he knows it’s not going to be received well if he says “buckle in fans, I’m tearing it the f*** down.” Of course he’s going to sugarcoat it, he doesn’t owe the fans his true intentions just because he’s at some pancake breakfast or whatever it is called. Plus, just because we’re halfway through a Murray rebuild doesn’t mean Verbeek is required to pick up where Murray left off. It’s Verbeeks rebuild now, and if it fails it’s 100% on him and he has no one to blame but himself.
Flyers put Ryan Johansen on unconditional waivers for buying him out due to "breach of contract". It is believed Johansen says he is injured and the Flyers don't believe him (whatever that means).
Should we take a
Flyer...
on him?
*cue drumroll*
Everyone is always available for the right costBlues fan coming in peace (I swear)
What’s the word with Zegras? Is he available for trade still? Or was that just a bunch of weird media stuff?
The Blues very much need a 2C, and I was curious to see if he’s on the market.
Everyone is always available for the right cost. lol in all seriousness hes not..
Weird media stuff. He's not untouchable, but I personally wouldn't think of trading him unless the return was a young gritty stud RD.Blues fan coming in peace (I swear)
What’s the word with Zegras? Is he available for trade still? Or was that just a bunch of weird media stuff?
The Blues very much need a 2C, and I was curious to see if he’s on the market.
Weird media stuff. He's not untouchable, but I personally wouldn't think of trading him unless the return was a young gritty stud RD.
If Murray was rebuilding, he would not have held on to Hamphus, Rackell, Manson, and a few other guys (probably should add Gibson to that list and maybe Getz too). He held them too long and the ducks: (i) lost a ton of draft capital; and (ii) remained mediocre for 2+ extra years, thereby delaying the rebuild. I'd also note that the Silf and Henrique contracts were overpays at the wrong time.
No one knows forsure.Blues fan coming in peace (I swear)
What’s the word with Zegras? Is he available for trade still? Or was that just a bunch of weird media stuff?
The Blues very much need a 2C, and I was curious to see if he’s on the market.
No one knows forsure.
Here is what we do know:
- He is 23 with 2 60+ point seasons.
- Last year he was late to camp, then snake bitten, then injured, then played some of the best hockey in his career.
- He has only had good things said about his attitude and his work ethic from current and former teammates/coaches.
- He has never said anything that would make you think he doesn’t want to play in Anaheim long term.
Given all that info, why do you (not YOU exactly but just anyone that entertains the rumors as anything more then clickbait) think the Ducks would want to trade him? The only way it makes sense is if it is a hockey trade for a young physical top pairing RHD.
No amount of futures would make sense for a team like the Ducks that need to be coming out of their rebuild.
this is not the case. it's a preconceived notion that some media people started and just rolled with without any actual evidence.Fair enough! I’ve just seen stuff here and there about him being moved, and that him and Verbeek didn’t get along.
Despite also being in Southern California, most of my close friends out here who like hockey are Kings fans, so I’m more in tune with their business than the Ducks.
Totally agree, it’s annoying as a fan to not be able to take what he says at face value, but at the end of the day he doesn’t owe the fans a straight answer. I don’t think the Samueli’s would have been too happy with him if he told all the season ticket holders that he was planning to go scorched earth, so prepare to watch a lottery contention team for the next 3-5 years. Is it shitty for the fans? Yes, but I get why he wouldn’t be honest on the rebuild part. The rest, like him saying he’s going to get a top6 forward and top 4 D is definitely something that we fans should be annoyed at and rightfully so. I’m not absolving him of full blame, but put in the same position I’m probably pretty coy with the fans if I’m planning a full tear down. Now that also begs to question if he knew that was the plan, or if he actually saw how the team was built when he came and thought we were actually on the course to contention. We can only speculate.There are big gaps between being brutally honest sugarcoating it, and creating false expectations. I know of multiple season ticket holders who’ve decided that they’re tired of being misled and dropped their tickets.
I think he gave away what was going to happen this summer with the way he phrased things. I think he was brutally dishonest about pretending not to tank (and giving Eakins a “fair evaluation”) with the Klingberg D Corps, and as to exactly what that was going to mean as far as how much longer the team would remain irrelevant.
I know enough to know what was going on, and that it usually takes 7-10 years from after the tank starts to return to playoff contender (as opposed to playoff bubble) status, but it’s galling how that was glossed over after the language he came in with. Also, the price increase.
I’d say if a team wants to pay the price(and we’re talking a pretty big price) he could be had.Blues fan coming in peace (I swear)
What’s the word with Zegras? Is he available for trade still? Or was that just a bunch of weird media stuff?
The Blues very much need a 2C, and I was curious to see if he’s on the market.
Some think a rebuild is must only be a complete teardown.
That's simply not true. It's just the common trope thrown around online. The Ducks didn't tear everything down and still got 3 top 10 picks including a 3rd overall. BM wasn't really trying to make the team better, he was letting the team bottom out naturally without voiding the team of higher end talent like Lindholm. I mean it's not like PV traded away all that many players, it was just 3 guys with key roles.At the risk of having a certain poster rush in to defend Murray, I have to say this is simply not true. You can't rebuild without tearing it down.
If Murray was rebuilding, he would not have held on to Hamphus, Rackell, Manson, and a few other guys (probably should add Gibson to that list and maybe Getz too). He held them too long and the ducks: (i) lost a ton of draft capital; and (ii) remained mediocre for 2+ extra years, thereby delaying the rebuild. I'd also note that the Silf and Henrique contracts were overpays at the wrong time.
I like those players and all good compliments. What we dont have is a player(s) like a Getzlaf that can teach the young guys not just how to be pros but how to be stars. How to handle the stress, the extra exposure, the extra attention from the other team, manage point droughts not to mention taking some pressure off the kids having to produce. Not all of it obviously, one guy can't do that but it can certainly help.Killorn, Strome, Gudas, Vatrano, Fowler are all support. They're all veterans who are solid to good players and provide leadership. Yes, it's good strategy. Whether the execution is good remains to be seen.
Sounds like you need to start hanging out with some higher caliber hockey fans.Despite also being in Southern California, most of my close friends out here who like hockey are Kings fans, so I’m more in tune with their business than the Ducks.
Sounds like you need to start hanging out with some higher caliber hockey fans.I know where you can find some.
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The guy you wanted then was Stamkos. The Ducks offered him the most money. He turned it down. Marchessault could have been that guy. He also turned it down.That's simply not true. It's just the common trope thrown around online. The Ducks didn't tear everything down and still got 3 top 10 picks including a 3rd overall. BM wasn't really trying to make the team better, he was letting the team bottom out naturally without voiding the team of higher end talent like Lindholm. I mean it's not like PV traded away all that many players, it was just 3 guys with key roles.
I like those players and all good compliments. What we dont have is a player(s) like a Getzlaf that can teach the young guys not just how to be pros but how to be stars. How to handle the stress, the extra exposure, the extra attention from the other team, manage point droughts not to mention taking some pressure off the kids having to produce. Not all of it obviously, one guy can't do that but it can certainly help.
Just tell everyone you meet how Perron was a great player and you'll hit it off well. We loved him as a Duck. It's too bad we couldn't offer him enough to lure him out of his desire to return to St. Louis cause he had such good chemistry with Getzlaf that basically Perry was the only one ever to beat that.
Well the girl I’ve been seeing as of recently is a Ducks fan, so I’ll probably be at more games.
Dlyers sure seems to have a lot of problems happening to them. More often than not it's a sign of somethingIt means…
“Cutter doesn’t want to play for us.” Briere… “I don’t believe him.”
“Alexei wants to go back to Russia.” Briere… “I don’t believe him.”
“Ryan says he’s injured.” Briere… “I don’t believe him.”
Tortorella… Can I get a list of the players I don’t know from a hole in the wall?”
John
I think he wanted to stay but we were at the cap and had to resign rakell and lindholm . Would have loved to keep him as he was so good and somehow got even better every time he went back to saint LouisJust tell everyone you meet how Perron was a great player and you'll hit it off well. We loved him as a Duck. It's too bad we couldn't offer him enough to lure him out of his desire to return to St. Louis cause he had such good chemistry with Getzlaf that basically Perry was the only one ever to beat that.
I'm honestly pretty surprised Verbeek would do that, but good for him. Can you imagine Murray doing an interview with them?Spittin Chiclets interviewed Verbeek but haven’t released it yet. Looking forward to that one and would love to hear him make some comments on Zegras. Should be coming next two weeks id think.