Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency - Offseason Edition

[LOFIN]

Have to say, I've been very critical of Mike Grier but he has done some tidy work in the last week. Good for him and San Jose.

 

[Chiarelli]

Have to say, I've been very critical of Mike Grier but he has done some tidy work in the last week. Good for him and San Jose.

He's done some dumb stuff but we're entering the part of the year where he gets players for free (or paid to take them) and should be able to redeem himself.

 

[LOFIN]

DNVR spent like 20 minutes today mocking Yzerman for the Walman trade and neither of them thought about the possibility that perhaps there are off ice issues with him

Possible, then again Sean Shapiro wrote a piece on the trade it just seems horrible asset management done in panic:

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“The other puzzling thing is that Yzerman apparently didn’t shop Walman around a ton. Based off some of my conversations and reading reports from others, there were multiple teams that would have been interested in actually trading something for Walman.

And if the Red Wings were truly desperate to be clear of Walman, they could have kept the second-round pick and simply waived him. The San Jose Sharks, I know for a fact, would have claimed him on waivers since they are first in the waiver order, like they did with Barclay Goodrow. In fact, I’ve heard San Jose was happily stunned when Yzerman simply didn’t ask for a return and offered a second-round pick sweetener.”

What I've learned, if anything, about the Jake Walman trade

Two days after the deal we are still trying to figure out exactly what happened.

www.shapshotshockey.com

 

[hockeyfish]

Possible, then again Sean Shapiro wrote a piece on the trade it just seems horrible asset management done in panic:

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What I've learned, if anything, about the Jake Walman trade

Two days after the deal we are still trying to figure out exactly what happened.

www.shapshotshockey.com

Lol, Yzerman sucks at being GM.

 

[LOFIN]

Lol, Yzerman sucks at being GM.

He has drafted well, but his trades and signings have been very underwhelming in Detroit.

 

[the_fan]

Be honest. How many cocktails did you have when posting this?

About 5 or so, but that was after I had sake at a Japanese restaurant prior to that and few more cocktails at the beach earlier.

All inclusive vacation all you can eat and drink LOL… it’s none stop

 

[Avs_19]

Is Suter the first player to get bought out by a new team while still being on the books for a buyout on another team?

 

[Richard88]

Lol, Yzerman sucks at being GM.

Stevie Why

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Have to say, I've been very critical of Mike Grier but he has done some tidy work in the last week. Good for him and San Jose.

What? He made 1 good move and 1 horrendous move.

 

[LOFIN]

What? He made 1 good move and 1 horrendous move.

Like the Goodrow move. Like the Dellandrea move. Love the Walman move.

 

[henchman21]

Is Suter the first player to get bought out by a new team while still being on the books for a buyout on another team?

I thought it happened once before, but I could be wrong there.

That's incorrect. ~780k this year 1.4m next year. They save about 2.8m this upcoming season for this. It is ~1.4m per season of cash going out.

This probably signals they are keeping Tanev.

 

[hockeyfish]

TIL that not all 35+ contracts are treated the same when it comes to buyouts.

 

[Muffin]

I thought it happened once before, but I could be wrong there.


That's incorrect. ~780k this year 1.4m next year. They save about 2.8m this upcoming season for this. It is ~1.4m per season of cash going out.

This probably signals they are keeping Tanev.

Is he an upgrade over JJ?

 

[hockeyfish]

Is he an upgrade over JJ?

I don't think so.

 

[NorthernAvsFan]

Duhaime is an interesting one. I’m assuming Trenin is gone because someone will overpay for him, but the market might be a bit lighter on Duhaime.

I thought he was great in the regular season, then disappointed in the playoffs. I’d bring him back for cheap to have some heaviness on the 4th line.

 

[henchman21]

Is he an upgrade over JJ?

Yeah but we don't want him. He's that good enough and coach loved enough level that he gets more minutes than he should.

 

[Vaslof]

Possible, then again Sean Shapiro wrote a piece on the trade it just seems horrible asset management done in panic:

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What I've learned, if anything, about the Jake Walman trade

Two days after the deal we are still trying to figure out exactly what happened.

www.shapshotshockey.com

He's like those posters who wanted to pay someone to take Compher off our hands lol

 

[Chileiceman]

I know I'm like the last person to realize this, but factoring in Nichushkin and Landy on the books, we have $5.23m in cap space with only 13 players signed.

This is going to be a wild off-season.

 

[shadow1]

Duhaime is an interesting one. I’m assuming Trenin is gone because someone will overpay for him, but the market might be a bit lighter on Duhaime.

I thought he was great in the regular season, then disappointed in the playoffs. I’d bring him back for cheap to have some heaviness on the 4th line.

There was a report a week-or-so ago that teams view Duhaime as a consolation prize if they miss out on Dakota Joshua. So it is likely he'll get overpaid for his physicality.

Personally, Duhaime impressed me when he first got here, but that faded over time. I don't think Bednar trusted him and I don't blame him. For as little as he played, the Avs gave up way too many goals 5v5 when Duhaime was on the ice, which is why I think his ice time got slashed in the playoffs.

<Regular Season>

	GP	TOI 5v5	Oi GA 5v5
Duhaime	18	10:17	9
Trenin	16	10:32	2
Wagner	13	7:01	1

<Playoffs>

	GP	TOI 5v5	Oi GA 5v5
Duhaime	11	7:31	4
Trenin	10	8:51	3
Wagner	2	8:44	0

(I'm not insinuating Wagner is better, it's just for comparison sake)

 

[henchman21]

I really don't think any of the bottom 6 guys brought in did anything to keep them around. Parise was by far the best addition in that group and he's retiring (and too old). Avs need to grab some guys, but I think I'd avoid Duhaime and Trenin.

 

[hockeyfish]

I know I'm like the last person to realize this, but factoring in Nichushkin and Landy on the books, we have $5.23m in cap space with only 13 players signed.

This is going to be a wild off-season.

They have about that much to spend with 16 players signed. It's tight, but not quite that bad.

 

[AVSfan2daMAX]

Duhaime showed some flashes in the regular season but he's a dime a dozen player.

I don't think he's worth it for the Avs since he's strictly a winger. At least Wagner can play centre.

 

[shadow1]

I know I'm like the last person to realize this, but factoring in Nichushkin and Landy on the books, we have $5.23m in cap space with only 13 players signed.

This is going to be a wild off-season.

The situation is technically a little better than that, but not by much...

• Add in Kovalenko, and you're up to 14 skaters, but down to ~$4.34
• Then consider Nichushkin will miss ~15% of the season (prorated -$0.92ish), you're back up to (roughly) ~$5.26

Then consider that when Landeskog/Nichushkin aren't playing, they'll be replaced by (2) league minimum plugs.

So really, it's more like that ~$5.26 needs to be spread across (6) players, or as little as (4) if Colorado doesn't carry extras (which they will).

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806326978045530400

 

[Chileiceman]

They have about that much to spend with 16 players signed. It's tight, but not quite that bad.

Right, if we pencil in Kovalenko, Foudy, Malinksi and Innala on ELC's and also Wagner into the main roster we would have 18 players signed and $1.02m in cap space.