Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency - Offseason Edition

[Ararana]

I'm not moving 4M AAV Colton for 2.4M AAV Kakko, that's for damn sure. The savings aren't worth the massive downgrade and losing our center.

If we move Colton either we take no contract back or a good value one.

Why do I have the feeling cMac has already penciled Ritchie in at 3C.... That would most likely be a disaster.

 

[BobRossColton]

Texier is someone I've always been a curious about. Colton+Georgie for merzlilins+texier

 

[the_fan]

Colton had 17 goals and 40 points but he did that playing majority of the season as the 2C until the Mitts trade. Don’t think he was very good when he moved to 3C. Not only his offensive production dropped, he wasn’t trusted defensively and his playoff production was not good. 1 goal and just 4 points in 11 games. I’m not sure why some of you make it sound like Colton is untouchable.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Colton had 17 goals and 40 points but he did that playing majority of the season as the 2C until the Mitts trade. Don’t think he was very good when he moved to 3C. Not only his offensive production dropped, he wasn’t trusted defensively and his playoff production was not good. 1 goal and just 4 points in 11 games. I’m not sure why some of you make it sound like Colton is untouchable.

It's not that he's untouchable. It's that if you move him you aren't getting an upgrade that saves any cap space realistically. Or you trade him for cap space and then there's a huge hole at 3C.

 

[the_fan]

It's not that he's untouchable. It's that if you move him you aren't getting an upgrade that saves any cap space realistically. Or you trade him for cap space and then there's a huge hole at 3C.

There are players who elevate their game and have a surprise playoff runs all the time while being on a cheap contract. It’s possible we can find someone like that to be the 3C on a cheaper contract than Colton

 

[Balthazar]

It's not that he's untouchable. It's that if you move him you aren't getting an upgrade that saves any cap space realistically. Or you trade him for cap space and then there's a huge hole at 3C.

The upgrade is being able to sign Drouin, who's a better player.

Also if Colton is in high demand, we'll get something for him that we'll be able to use later. If Drouin walks we get nothing.

That's asset management and it's important.

 

[the_fan]

If a team is willing to give a high price for Colton, we definitely should trade him

 

[dahrougem2]

Colton had 17 goals and 40 points but he did that playing majority of the season as the 2C until the Mitts trade. Don’t think he was very good when he moved to 3C. Not only his offensive production dropped, he wasn’t trusted defensively and his playoff production was not good. 1 goal and just 4 points in 11 games. I’m not sure why some of you make it sound like Colton is untouchable.

I think Colton was fine - good even - as 3C when playing with LOC. Therein lies the problem, though: clearly he (and Wood) needed LOC to have success as a line. If that's the case, it tells me LOC is the real key to the 3rd line and the Avs should be able to find someone cheaper than Colton and make it work.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Not advocating for this at all... But I would say this is maybe the one scenario where bringing in Ritchie as the 3C has a small chance of working out.

Two trades were as follows:

- Colton to New Jersey for 2024 3rd(NJD) + 2025 2nd(WPG). Basically trading Colton for pick #75 this year and pick roughly pick #50 next year.

- 2024 1st(COL) to Washington for Dowd(50% retained) + 2024 2nd(VGK). So trading down from #24 to #52 to get a high end 4C.


For the bottom 6, you stick two hard working, responsible two way guys on Ritchie's wing in Landy and LOC. Dowd gives you a really good 4C, and a guy that has the ability to play up the lineup if Ritchie really struggles. You dont want Dowd as your 3C in the playoffs, but during the regular season he'd be able to handle the role for a decent stretch if Ritchie cant do it(Obviously would then mean needing to make a trade for a 3C at the deadline which wouldn't be cheap).

A couple additional notes. This plan would allow Nichushkin to return to the team in November. Something I feel has an incredibly low(Arguably 0%) chance of happening, but it would work cap wise. He'd come back with a cap hit of about $5.1M so they'd actually have more like $2.5M in cap space rather then $1.4M This would allow them to grab a 5-6D for $1.5M and run with a 13th forward for league minimum.

The more likely route would be to simply spend Nukes money in the summer and terminate as soon as he's out of the program.

 

[the_fan]

I think Colton was fine - good even - as 3C when playing with LOC. Therein lies the problem, though: clearly he (and Wood) needed LOC to have success as a line. If that's the case, it tells me LOC is the real key to the 3rd line and the Avs should be able to find someone cheaper than Colton and make it work.

Avs have never really had a big point producing 3C, but in all 3 cup runs, we had one defensively responsible that a coach can trust.

96 and 01 we had Yelle
22 it was JTC.

JTC was really underrated in 22 playoffs. He had 5 goals and some big goals too. He was solid defensively and if I recall correctly, he was good on faceoffs too.

Colton didn’t bring any of that in the playoffs for us as the 3C

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

One of the funniest things is watching how the narrative has shifted on JTC. A year ago it was: Thank goodness he's gone. He f***ing sucked, and he's super easy to replace.

 

[henchman21]

One of the funniest things is watching how the narrative has shifted on JTC. A year ago it was: Thank goodness he's gone. He f***ing sucked, and he's super easy to replace.


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If you go back another couple years, 90% of posts are how awful he is and how he’s Bednar’s son.

 

[Avs44]

Don't see the logic behind moving Colton...by the deadline, we'll all be desperately bitching for a #3 centre if we do move him.

 

[Balthazar]

JTC sucked partially because he was sitting on the wrong chair and now he's grossly overpaid. I don't miss him one bit.

Don't see the logic behind moving Colton

It's right here

 

[The Abusement Park]

JTC sucked partially because he was sitting on the wrong chair and now he's grossly overpaid. I don't miss him one bit.


It's right here

I mean you're opening one hole to fill another.

 

[Balthazar]

I mean you're opening one hole to fill another.

Lose better player and get nothing
or
Lose lesser player and get something

It's not the same

 

[Freaky Styley]

NJ fans seem interested. The only fit I see is around Haula to fill in at 3C for 900k less.

 

[chet1926]

One of the funniest things is watching how the narrative has shifted on JTC. A year ago it was: Thank goodness he's gone. He f***ing sucked, and he's super easy to replace.


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Who would have ever guessed that letting go a 40+ pts guy who could take faceoffs with reasonable success and could PK decently would turn out poorly.

JTC was a solid player for his role, it was dumb to let him walk over about 1M. Colton makes 4 JTC makes 5.1 and I bet we could have negotiated 4.75. so we are talking a league minimum player in salary difference.

I take JTC over Colton every day of the week.

 

[Freaky Styley]

Who would have ever guessed that letting go a 40+ pts guy who could take faceoffs with reasonable success and could PK decently would turn out poorly.

JTC was a solid player for his role, it was dumb to let him walk over about 1M. Colton makes 4 JTC makes 5.1 and I bet we could have negotiated 4.75. so we are talking a league minimum player in salary difference.

I take JTC over Colton every day of the week.

This is a moot point. JTC was fine but most of the argument was that he wasn't a 2C (which he isn't on a contender) and we didn't want to pay a 3C what he was demanding (which we can't afford). So while he's a fine player, the contract situation was always going to force him off the team.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Ya know... if San Jose really did want to offer us Bordeleau + 2025 2nd for Colton... You might just have to make that trade and figure out the 3C spot again after that.

That would be pretty nice value, frees up a bunch of cap, and replenishes some draft pick capital.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Ya know... if San Jose really did want to offer us Bordeleau + 2025 2nd for Colton... You might just have to make that trade and figure out the 3C spot again after that.

That would be pretty nice value, frees up a bunch of cap, and replenishes some draft pick capital.

We could really use a face puncher with silky mitts to be fair

 

[Freaky Styley]

Texier is someone I've always been a curious about. Colton+Georgie for merzlilins+texier

Texier would probably be a good fit, but a big no thanks to Elvis

Ya know... if San Jose really did want to offer us Bordeleau + 2025 2nd for Colton... You might just have to make that trade and figure out the 3C spot again after that.

That would be pretty nice value, frees up a bunch of cap, and replenishes some draft pick capital.

I could be wrong, but Bordeleau doesn't excite me at all. Only reason it might be beneficial is name recognition and value to flip at the deadline

 

[the_fan]

JTC sucked partially because he was sitting on the wrong chair and now he's grossly overpaid. I don't miss him one bit.


It's right here

All I know is that JTC helped us win the cup and he was just fine that year making 3.5 mill. I would not give him 5 mill for sure. Maybe would be a better option than Colton if he would take 3.5 again to re-sign, but anything more than that, no

 

[henchman21]

I mean you're opening one hole to fill another.

I mean………

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

I think we all mean, if you think about it.