Boston Bruins 2024-2025 Roster & Salary Cap Discussion III

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Fenian24

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I didn’t realize these two guys were worth more. Saros is a bit younger. So maybe. But I doubt he is worth much more. I think Ullmark is a player someone will pay for. A lot of good teams will want to upgrade their goalie this off-season.


Heinen lives rent free in your head :sarcasm:
If it is 3mx3 first Sweeney should fly the ship into the sun, second another .5 to 1 mil gets you Joshua who gives you everything Heinen does and is physical on top of it.
 

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I would not take the deal for the 10th overall pick from NJ if it's Ullmark + based on the info I reference below. With the exception of Selanne (HOF, generational type talent from a period prior to this dataset) and Rantanen, there isn't enough of a hit percentage of the 10th overall pick historically to think that you are guaranteed on getting a player to plug into the lineup within the next couple of seasons. I still rather get a proven, productive player (Necas or otherwise) for Ullmark ++ than take a chance on an NHL lottery ticket. This team needs help now not 2 years from now. Just my opinion, I can see it both ways. Apologies for not actually linking the webpage below, that's above my tech level :).

Oh wow, the link actually pre-populated, I apologize for my tech savvy ways. Hahahaha

 

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Not saying i would, but for sake of discussion If you could get Nichushkin for Ullmark do you take the risk that he'll turn his problem around and not f*** you over come playoff time? If any coach would be a good fit you gotta think it's Monty.
 
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I would not take the deal for the 10th overall pick from NJ if it's Ullmark + based on the info I reference below. With the exception of Selanne (HOF, generational type talent from a period prior to this dataset) and Rantanen, there isn't enough of a hit percentage of the 10th overall pick historically to think that you are guaranteed on getting a player to plug into the lineup within the next couple of seasons. I still rather get a proven, productive player (Necas or otherwise) for Ullmark ++ than take a chance on an NHL lottery ticket. This team needs help now not 2 years from now. Just my opinion, I can see it both ways. Apologies for not actually linking the webpage below, that's above my tech level :).

Oh wow, the link actually pre-populated, I apologize for my tech savvy ways. Hahahaha

With Ullmark's limited no trade we have no idea who he will accept a trade too. Teams looking for goalies in the East are Ottawa, Jersey, Pittsburgh, Toronto, maybe Carolina. I don't see a top 9 forward coming from any of them for Ullmark. Ullmark is not going to be an easy trade and my lack of faith in Sweeney has me very nervous with him making this deal.

Not saying i would, but for sake of discussion If you could get Nichushkin for Ullmark do you take the risk that he'll turn his problem around and not f*** you over come playoff time? If any coach would be a good fit you gotta think it's Monty.
Not in a million years
 
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The talk has been about DeBrusk getting twice that much and that being acceptable.

DeBrusk 19-21-40 and +4

Heinen 17-19-36 and +16

But, if they fill in the pieces they need to up front via free agency and those guys perform well in the playoffs, and JDB produces as he usually does in the playoffs, he’ll be well worth it.

Plus, that was a down year for JDB and likely the high water mark for Heinen.
 

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Too much risk? My thought is he's probably the best chance to get an impact player for Ullmark...super risky though.
I like the outside the box thinking but, yes, too much risk. Also you have to wonder what was going on behind the scenes in his Dallas years and whether this most recent situation was just a repeat of prior transgressions. For his personal sake, I hope he is getting the help he needs.
 
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Yup just like when he traded less for three players instead of one.

I guess this is what happens when I clear the ignore list. Didn't even make it 24 hours.
His point is valid and on point. Yes it was two trades instead of one but it’s the exact same scenario and the same outcome
 

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I've been wondering about Yegor Sharangovich but I'm not sure if Calgary has any intention of trading him.
 

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Sounds like the third line, meaning Coyle entrenched as a top 2 C and Poitras assed out. I'll wait until it all takes shape, but not a huge proponent of bringing back guys who don't perform in the play-offs.
Not an awful 3rd line. Redundancy. If they bring all 3 back where do they add speed & thump? Either DeBrusk’s spot or 4th line. I’m rooting for a Horton type trade.
 

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I would not take the deal for the 10th overall pick from NJ if it's Ullmark + based on the info I reference below. With the exception of Selanne (HOF, generational type talent from a period prior to this dataset) and Rantanen, there isn't enough of a hit percentage of the 10th overall pick historically to think that you are guaranteed on getting a player to plug into the lineup within the next couple of seasons. I still rather get a proven, productive player (Necas or otherwise) for Ullmark ++ than take a chance on an NHL lottery ticket. This team needs help now not 2 years from now. Just my opinion, I can see it both ways. Apologies for not actually linking the webpage below, that's above my tech level :).

Oh wow, the link actually pre-populated, I apologize for my tech savvy ways. Hahahaha


I don’t think you keep the pick. I think you now have an asset to get a player from a team that would value the pick over a win now goalie.
 

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Keep the pick, stop trying to go for it! That hasn't worked!

David Pastrnak is 28 years old. You wanna wait 5-8 years for the pick to start hitting their prime and hope that prime is good enough? There will be a time where they have to go full late 90s suckage. But keeping the pick is, at best, just playing the “let’s stay good enough to get a few games of playoff revenue”. All their players but Marchand are in their prime or pre-prime. They obviously can’t keep trading all their picks. But they clearly need one more impact guy in their prime or pre-prime that is gonna get there ASAP. A pick like 10 can get them that. Especially in a draft where there aren’t any centers in that 10OA range.
 

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Two trades for three players is exactly the same as one trade for one player - got it. Thanks
two piece puzzles are hard for you to figure out i guess. Yes those are two different things. But was was given up was the same and equally costly. Can you make that HUGE leap to comprehend what he was saying? Playing semantics is never a good look
 
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