Boston Bruins 2024-2025 Roster & Salary Cap Discussion III

[BruinDust]

Yeah I was dismissing the Stamkos and Reinhart possibilities. Perhaps I shouldn’t. I think Marchessault would be a bigger number than we’d like at his age but that would be a hell of a swing. I’ll be surprised if he leaves too.

I think Marchessault on one line, Pasta on the other, Machessault bumper PP1, would work real well.

I think he, like Stamkos and Reinhart, would much prefer to stay in where he is. You never know with Vegas, those guys are ruthless.

I guess if not Guentzel they might be looking at Toffoli, Teravainen. Sean Monahan is a both a center and scored 7th most goals among all UFAs he seems like a target. There isn't much more available goal scoring wise makes a Debrusk extension look more palatable. I assume they'll pursue Lindholm.

 

[CellyHard]

I just don't see a massive difference between Ullmark and Stuart Skinner. And they have the Jack Campbell contract still on the books.

It's like the Carolina talk. Carolina already has an "Ullmark" in Freddie Andersen.

To me, it's Detroit, NJ, LA, Ottawa, and Toronto who will be the teams going hard after goaltenders this off-season. And a dark horse......Pittsburgh. I don't think they are satisfied with Jarry after last year and may look for someone to pair up with him. I'd happily take Marcus Petterson off their hands for Ullmark (both UFA next year).

I get for some reason you don’t want to believe Ullmark to Carolina but just so you know the most reputable journalist in the hockey community confirmed they had discussions at the trade deadline…

The Ullmark to Carolina talk is most definitely real and possible

 

[CDJ]

How many Vezinas do Skinner or Andersen have again?

 

[GordonHowe]

I see two options in free agency to replace Carlo. Montour and Pesce. And if the Bruins strike out there, now what?

Honestly if they are willing to move Carlo, forget Martin Necas and call TO about Mitch Marner. Could be Larsson for Hall version 2.0.

Do people really want to move on from Carlo, especially after a strong season?

He's 27. He makes a relatively modest $4.1 million annually and is signed through 2026-27 season.

After so many concussions, I have been wary in the past. But if -- if -- he can stay healthy, he's a very good to excellent stay at home defenseman.

Do some want two nickels for a dime, ala Sinden?

He's a bargain, folks. Leave well enough alone.

 

[BruinDust]

How many Vezinas do Skinner or Andersen have again?

How many playoff series has Ullmark won?

Skinner has won 3 in two years. Andersen has 2 in the past two years and 4 overall.

 

[DominicT]

How many playoff series has Ullmark won?

Skinner has won 3 in two years. Andersen has 2 in the past two years and 4 overall.

So, all three haven't won anything then.

 

[CDJ]

How many playoff series has Ullmark won?

Skinner has won 3 in two years. Andersen has 2 in the past two years and 4 overall.

I know Andersen is like 0-8 in close outs with their season on the line or something, I’m sure they’d be willing to gamble on Linus over him

If you had to pick between the 3 who would you rather have? If the answer is Ullmark (like it should be, it’s the obvious choice imo) then boom that’s why those 2 teams might be interested in acquiring him despite having a goalie in place

 

[BruinDust]

So, all three haven't won anything then.

Exactly so why are Carolina or Edmonton interested in ol' Linus?

 

[CDJ]

Do people really want to move on from Carlo, especially after a strong season?

He's 27. He makes a relatively modest $4.1 million annually and is signed through 2026-27 season.

After so many concussions, I have been wary in the past. But if -- if -- he can stay healthy, he's a very good to excellent stay at home defenseman.

Do some want two nickels for a dime, ala Sinden?

He's a bargain, folks. Leave well enough alone.

I’m only moving if in a package for a superior player, there’s no situation where id move him for futures/inferior players

Exactly so why are Carolina or Edmonton interested in ol' Linus?

Because he’s still a better goalie than what they have

Not that I think Linus waives for Edmonton

 

[bbfan419]

I don't think there is any chance Ullmark waives his trade protection to go to Ottawa, but Ullmark for Chychrun straight up is fair value for both clubs.

I wonder if he would waive for a club willing to sign him to an extension?

 

[BruinDust]

I’m only moving if in a package for a superior player, there’s no situation where id move him for futures/inferior players


Because he’s a better goalie than them.

He is. By how much though? In my opinion, not a whole lot. And that's not me knocking Linus, I think all 3 guys are solid netminders. Andersen's biggest question is health but they also have a terrific back-up.

 

[BruinDust]

I wonder if he would waive for a club willing to sign him to an extension?

They'll get more value for him if he's willing to extend with his new club. I don't know how much that would change his mind about a team on his list.

 

[bbfan419]

I want Necas more than just about anyone on here, but he's not a center and I'm not trading Brandon Carlo for him.

Would you trade Hampus for Necas?

I see two options in free agency to replace Carlo. Montour and Pesce. And if the Bruins strike out there, now what?

Honestly if they are willing to move Carlo, forget Martin Necas and call TO about Mitch Marner. Could be Larsson for Hall version 2.0.

I would want Nylander for Carlo, forget Marner.

 

[BruinDust]

Would you trade Hampus for Necas?


I would want Nylander for Carlo, forget Marner.

I'd take Nylander over Marner every single time.

 

[bbfan419]

I'd take Nylander over Marner every single time.

Yes and he and Pasta are good friends, if we could find a way through trades to offset cap space and get both Necas and one of Nylander or B. Tkachuk, that would set up our top 6 for a while.

 

[Eddie Munson]

It seem many of the learned hockey commentators are better at sniping and wiping, yet to fall from swollen eyes, tears from their self inflicted wounds. You still haven’t proposed a thing. Math is fun when you apply it to problems but not when used to profess unearned superiority.

Unearned superiority? Please. I politely stated multiple times that your cap calculations were wrong. You said I’m not creative and that I can do the math for you. I did.

I’ve made my opinion on what I think they should do well known. I’ve had great debates with people I agree and disagree with. Even with DKH who I never agree with BUT I respect a ton.

My issue with your posts all along is that it’s not based in reality because the proposals you made would far exceed the cap. Time for a new take.

 

[DominicT]

Exactly so why are Carolina or Edmonton interested in ol' Linus?

I'm not the one saying they are.

In fact, I'm the one saying the Canes probably were interested at trade deadline. But new GM and with a interim tag at that, doesn't mean they still are.

 

[BruinDust]

Yes and he and Pasta are good friends, if we could find a way through trades to offset cap space and get both Necas and one of Nylander or B. Tkachuk, that would set up our top 6 for a while.

Problem is I think the Leafs realize now who the better playoff player is (Nylander).

Even Marner for all the talk about the Leafs busting up the Core 4, I'll believe it when I see it. I think a Marner trade will be incredibly hard to pull off for the Leafs if they want a good return back.

 

[ODAAT]

Ok I`ve decided,

B`s getting Stevenson , Teravainen up front, Tanev or Zadorev on back end, case closed and if there`s a few sprinkles of bucks left over after signing them and Sway, grab Lomberg too

 

[Blowfish]

I just don't see a massive difference between Ullmark and Stuart Skinner. And they have the Jack Campbell contract still on the books.

It's like the Carolina talk. Carolina already has an "Ullmark" in Freddie Andersen.

To me, it's Detroit, NJ, LA, Ottawa, and Toronto who will be the teams going hard after goaltenders this off-season. And a dark horse......Pittsburgh. I don't think they are satisfied with Jarry after last year and may look for someone to pair up with him. I'd happily take Marcus Petterson off their hands for Ullmark (both UFA next year).

 

[Blowfish]

I'm not advocating Domi becomes the bruin #1 or #2 center but a winger who can win draws. He's a warrior come playoff time and had himself a decent year in TO. I can see Marchand pushing for Domi.


If the Bruins were looking for a depth points producer, Max Domi is one of the more solid names the Eastern Conference offers. He’s almost always good for just over a half-point per game output, and Domi’s ability to create scoring chances raises his value and should help teams overlook his inconsistent goal-scoring record.

He’s also someone who can more than handle taking faceoffs, something that has recently turned into a strength. Over the past two seasons in Chicago, Dallas, and Toronto, Domi has a respectable 52.75 faceoff win percentage, something the Bruins can use after a season that saw them win just 49.5 percent of their draws.

One player the Bruins can steal from the Atlantic Division in NHL free agency

 

[Eddie Munson]

I'm not advocating Domi becomes the bruin #1 or #2 center but a winger who can win draws. He's a warrior come playoff time and had himself a decent year in TO. I can see Marchand pushing for Domi.


If the Bruins were looking for a depth points producer, Max Domi is one of the more solid names the Eastern Conference offers. He’s almost always good for just over a half-point per game output, and Domi’s ability to create scoring chances raises his value and should help teams overlook his inconsistent goal-scoring record.

He’s also someone who can more than handle taking faceoffs, something that has recently turned into a strength. Over the past two seasons in Chicago, Dallas, and Toronto, Domi has a respectable 52.75 faceoff win percentage, something the Bruins can use after a season that saw them win just 49.5 percent of their draws.

One player the Bruins can steal from the Atlantic Division in NHL free agency

I like Domi. But from what I read he’s looking for a payday and if we think Debrusk is infuriating, Domi is just as bad.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Supposedly he wants to stay on the east coast, per Dom. So with that info, I assume he has all the west coast teams on his no trade list. Which could explain why it is 16 teams, all WC teams. Obviously we don't know for sure.

Not really.

He wouldn't have to put DAL, VAN, NAS or SEA because they are set in goal. There are some other ones that could be argued as well.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

I don't know man...you have a RHD PK1 making $4M a year who can get absolutely buried and yet you still score almost 60% of the goals 5v5 when he's on the ice, and you want to consider trading him? Why? RHD is the hardest position to fill save netminder, and we have an excellent one. I just don't get it.

It's not difficult to understand if account for a potential replacement. If you don't have that replacement, obviously he stays.

But if you're attempting to improve the makeup of your top four, something has to go to make room.

Is it your assertion that nothing requires change on the blueline? If not, what do you suggest?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

It's not difficult to understand if account for a potential replacement. If you don't have that replacement, obviously he stays.

But if you're attempting to improve the makeup of your top four, something has to go to make room.

Is it your assertion that nothing requires change on the blueline? If not, what do you suggest?

Absent them going balls out for Skjei, I don’t see why we’re messing with the top 4. I think Wotherspoon-Peeke is a bad idea long term and since Wotherspoon can play both sides, a third pair add makes a lot of sense. You could bump Lohrei down but again other than some top tier add (which would seem to be overkill), I think the kid is ready and we should let him cook.

The problem was scoring, and along with that struggling to get the puck out. Lohrei helped with that a lot and will only get better. I know everyone wants THUMP for the third pair but if we’re going to roll Peeke I’d like to see someone with more offensive instincts next to him.

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