Boston Bruins 2024-2025 Roster & Salary Cap Discussion III

[yazmybaby]

Detroit is a possibility. I don't see a fit with Edmonton for the team or player.

Edmonton was on my list as I feel at the end of day all pro athletes want to win and Edm is close to winning a cup..... perhaps a good goalie like Ullmark away?
Holloway/Beau Akey and a first round pick in 2025 would get the convo started.

 

[Sheppy]

Here's a little thing I put together. Lauko to Columbus for Olivier, Ullmark in a package for Mercer and signing Lindholm and Dillon.

Bruins remain with $2.25M in cap space. Lindholm will probably get more than $7.5M, though.

 

[Fenian24]

Story in the Athletic about players who stock has risen and fallen in the playoffs, this is Lindholm's.

Elias Lindholm​

Stock up​

The Canucks wouldn’t have reached Game 7 of the second round without Lindholm’s jack-of-all-trades contributions.

Round 1 featured solid two-way performances, including a clutch Game 4 overtime winner. Lindholm then led the Canucks with seven points in the second round. In Game 1 against Edmonton, his line sparked Vancouver’s heroic comeback victory. In Game 3, he scored two massive power-play goals, including the winner. Lindholm’s line drove a strong 56 percent of expected goals and a 7-3 goal differential during his five-on-five shifts against the Oilers. By the eye, his assertive forechecking and stout neutral zone defensive play stood out.

He largely excelled matching up against Leon Draisaitl, keeping the five-on-five territorial play close and helping the Canucks win those head-to-head minutes by a 4-2 edge on the scoreboard. Lindholm logged huge penalty-killing minutes on the first unit and was on the ice for just three PK goals against in 13 playoff games, which is tidy work considering the Oilers’ historically dominant power play.

This was a critical bounce-back considering how heavily he struggled with the Canucks (while playing through an injury) down the stretch in the regular season.

 

[BruinDust]

Edmonton was on my list as I feel at the end of day all pro athletes want to win and Edm is close to winning a cup..... perhaps a good goalie like Ullmark away?
Holloway/Beau Akey and a first round pick in 2025 would get the convo started.

I just don't see a massive difference between Ullmark and Stuart Skinner. And they have the Jack Campbell contract still on the books.

It's like the Carolina talk. Carolina already has an "Ullmark" in Freddie Andersen.

To me, it's Detroit, NJ, LA, Ottawa, and Toronto who will be the teams going hard after goaltenders this off-season. And a dark horse......Pittsburgh. I don't think they are satisfied with Jarry after last year and may look for someone to pair up with him. I'd happily take Marcus Petterson off their hands for Ullmark (both UFA next year).

 

[BamBamCam]

I think Utah could use Ullmark. I read somewhere they’re looking to make some noise in their 1st season. Ullmark can take command of their crease. I’d like to see Lawson Crouse in a Bruins uniform.

3rd line of Crouse - Coyle - Poitras

Ask a Hockey Poolie I'll take Ingram over Ullmark

 

[BamBamCam]

Edmonton was on my list as I feel at the end of day all pro athletes want to win and Edm is close to winning a cup..... perhaps a good goalie like Ullmark away?
Holloway/Beau Akey and a first round pick in 2025 would get the convo started.

Beau Akey why would you ask for someone who only played 14 games in the OHL this year?

 

[Bruinfanatic]

Story in the Athletic about players who stock has risen and fallen in the playoffs, this is Lindholm's.

Elias Lindholm​

Stock up​

The Canucks wouldn’t have reached Game 7 of the second round without Lindholm’s jack-of-all-trades contributions.

Round 1 featured solid two-way performances, including a clutch Game 4 overtime winner. Lindholm then led the Canucks with seven points in the second round. In Game 1 against Edmonton, his line sparked Vancouver’s heroic comeback victory. In Game 3, he scored two massive power-play goals, including the winner. Lindholm’s line drove a strong 56 percent of expected goals and a 7-3 goal differential during his five-on-five shifts against the Oilers. By the eye, his assertive forechecking and stout neutral zone defensive play stood out.

He largely excelled matching up against Leon Draisaitl, keeping the five-on-five territorial play close and helping the Canucks win those head-to-head minutes by a 4-2 edge on the scoreboard. Lindholm logged huge penalty-killing minutes on the first unit and was on the ice for just three PK goals against in 13 playoff games, which is tidy work considering the Oilers’ historically dominant power play.

This was a critical bounce-back considering how heavily he struggled with the Canucks (while playing through an injury) down the stretch in the regular season.

Still think with many teams having the cap space prices are going to be higher.

 

[GordonHowe]

https://thehockeynews.com/news/martin-necas-likely-becoming-a-valuable-trade-chip-for-the-hurricanes

 

[Eddie Munson]

As I said; mix and match all you want, but trading Ullmark and Carlo puts the Bruins with 30+ mil and probably a hand full of draft picks.
BTW, it’s not my math you’re having a problem with but in your lack of creativity; But, of course, you’re certainly entitled that too.

I haven’t seen any specific picks or configurations from you that maximize trade prospects and cap space? Everybody can talk the talk but can you walk the walk? Let’s see your math…

Have it your way... Current roster with your changes:

_____________ - Zacha (4.75m) - Pasta (11.25m)
Marchand (6.125m) - Coyle (5.25m) - _____________
Frederic (2.3m) - Geekie (2m) - _____________
Lauko (787.5k) - Beecher (925k) - Brazeau (775k)
Brown (800k), _____________

Chychrun (4.6m) - McAvoy (9.5m)
Lindholm (6.5m) - _____________
Lohrei (925k) - Peeke (2.75m)
Wotherspoon (800k)

_____________
_____________

Roster Size: 16 (Need to sign 7 players)
Salary Cap: 87.7m
Cap Hit: 62.29m
Overages: 50k
Bonuses: 330k
CAP SPACE: 25.409m (note: not 30!)

Straight from CapFriendly roster builder.

Now as I've been saying, with my not so creative brain, is that you think they can sign Swayman and 3 "high-end" players. That leaves three open roster spots. If those three players all made league minimum that would equal 2.25m. That means you have roughly 23m in cap. In the other thread you low-ball offered Geuntzel, Reinhart, and Lindholm roughly 21m leaving you 2m to sign Swayman.

Math is fun

 

[Carl Hungus]

I'd rather see the B's carefully address their needs over the next 2 years than see them try to force a bunch of moves with limited options over this summer alone

 

[GordonHowe]

I'd rather see the B's carefully address their needs over the next 2 years than see them try to force a bunch of moves with limited options over this summer alone

Sweeney is a bright fellow, and circumspect as well. I think he'll go with your approach, as he should.

 

[BamBamCam]

https://thehockeynews.com/news/martin-necas-likely-becoming-a-valuable-trade-chip-for-the-hurricanes

If that is the case Bruins don't have the pieces for Necas unless it's Carlo or Lohrei

 

[Eddie Munson]

If that is the case Bruins don't have the pieces for Necas unless it's Carlo or Lohrei

Could be a three way trade:

Ottawa - Ullmark
Boston - Necas
Carolina - Chychrun

In the end I like Necas the best out of the other possibly available centers. But the fact that we don’t need to give up assets to get guys like Reinhart and Lindholm places them a little higher on my list.

 

[TCB]

 

[bruinmann77]

DS should not force a Center here if there not one he likes don't want no Overpayments at this time.
maybe just add a winger and dman

 

[Guelph Bruin]

unless one of the free agents we're looking to get REALLY wants to be a Bruin we will pay more than most posters want to pay ...bidding wars happen every free agency for the prize players (and given Sweeney's reputation for overpaying JAGs and giving them term (Forbert, Reilly, etc ..except last year when he was tightly handcuffed by the cap and actually did well in the FA market).... I expect to be underwhelmed.....please surprise me Sweeney.... don't give JAGs $$ and term anymore...take a lesson from last year.

 

[GordonHowe]

If that is the case Bruins don't have the pieces for Necas unless it's Carlo or Lohrei

They had better not trade Lohrei.

The free agent class is underwhelming. Stephenson is 30, Lindholm 29.

If it were up to me, which it isn't, I would sign either for three years, at what price point, I don't know. In any case someone will give them more term and dollars.

The Bruins might be that someone, because whatever they may say, they are desperate to fix their gaping center crater.

If so, they will substantially overpay for an addition that may or may not solve their problem down the middle for a few years. In the meantime, they can see what they have in Poitras.

It's not the most appealing circumstance, but with free agency it almost never is.

Choose wisely, grasshopper.

 

[BruinDust]

I pulled this from the Heinen thread but it belongs here:

“I have to be able to find some players that can come in and provide secondary scoring for us at key opportune times,” the general manager admitted last week, per Shinzawa.

Secondary scoring. I must of missed where all the primary scoring was coming from.

Sounds like Sweeney is going to do exactly what you don't want your GM to do on July 1st, overpay with $$$$ and term for B-level forwards. Fluto basically rules out chasing any of the top goal scorers in free agency. Don Sweeney and his army of 15 goal, 40 point guys.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I pulled this from the Heinen thread but it belongs here:

“I have to be able to find some players that can come in and provide secondary scoring for us at key opportune times,” the general manager admitted last week, per Shinzawa.

Secondary scoring. I must of missed where all the primary scoring was coming from.

Sounds like Sweeney is going to do exactly what you don't want your GM to do on July 1st, overpay with $$$$ and term for B-level forwards. Fluto basically rules out chasing any of the top goal scorers in free agency. Don Sweeney and his army of 15 goal, 40 point guys.

Yeah I wouldn’t jump on that to that degree. He’s not going to say “We’re going to pursue one of the top goal scorers in free agency” since there’s like two. Just GM speak. Let’s see what he does.

 

[BruinDust]

Yeah I wouldn’t jump on that to that degree. He’s not going to say “We’re going to pursue one of the top goal scorers in free agency” since there’s like two. Just GM speak. Let’s see what he does.

I would say there are 4.

Stamkos
Guentzel
Reinhart
Marchessault

Granted, I think Stamkos and Reinhart are total pipe dreams, they ain't leaving Florida.

But if that top forward isn't available via trade (and he's probably not), Guentzel and Marchessault should be their primary targets (obviously they aren't signing both).

I poo-poo'd the Marchessault idea at first but he's a dynamic goal scorer. Scores goals in a multitude of ways. From range, in tight, off the rush, you name it. Jake Guentzel just knows how to score goals.

 

[Gee Wally]

Here's a little thing I put together. Lauko to Columbus for Olivier, Ullmark in a package for Mercer and signing Lindholm and Dillon.

Bruins remain with $2.25M in cap space. Lindholm will probably get more than $7.5M, though.

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Also need to account for Reilly buyout and Lucic bonus. ~ 1.9 million total.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I would say there are 4.

Stamkos
Guentzel
Reinhart
Marchessault

Granted, I think Stamkos and Reinhart are total pipe dreams, they ain't leaving Florida.

But if that top forward isn't available via trade (and he's probably not), Guentzel and Marchessault should be their primary targets (obviously they aren't signing both).

I poo-poo'd the Marchessault idea at first but he's a dynamic goal scorer. Scores goals in a multitude of ways. From range, in tight, off the rush, you name it. Jake Guentzel just knows how to score goals.

Yeah I was dismissing the Stamkos and Reinhart possibilities. Perhaps I shouldn’t. I think Marchessault would be a bigger number than we’d like at his age but that would be a hell of a swing. I’ll be surprised if he leaves too.

 

[Bong Whisperer]

Have it your way... Current roster with your changes:

_____________ - Zacha (4.75m) - Pasta (11.25m)
Marchand (6.125m) - Coyle (5.25m) - _____________
Frederic (2.3m) - Geekie (2m) - _____________
Lauko (787.5k) - Beecher (925k) - Brazeau (775k)
Brown (800k), _____________

Chychrun (4.6m) - McAvoy (9.5m)
Lindholm (6.5m) - _____________
Lohrei (925k) - Peeke (2.75m)
Wotherspoon (800k)

_____________
_____________

Roster Size: 16 (Need to sign 7 players)
Salary Cap: 87.7m
Cap Hit: 62.29m
Overages: 50k
Bonuses: 330k
CAP SPACE: 25.409m (note: not 30!)

Straight from CapFriendly roster builder.

Now as I've been saying, with my not so creative brain, is that you think they can sign Swayman and 3 "high-end" players. That leaves three open roster spots. If those three players all made league minimum that would equal 2.25m. That means you have roughly 23m in cap. In the other thread you low-ball offered Geuntzel, Reinhart, and Lindholm roughly 21m leaving you 2m to sign Swayman.

Math is fun

It seem many of the learned hockey commentators are better at sniping and wiping, yet to fall from swollen eyes, tears from their self inflicted wounds. You still haven’t proposed a thing. Math is fun when you apply it to problems but not when used to profess unearned superiority.

 

[TCB]

Highly unlikely Brady Tkachuk gets moved, but his name is surfacing and if I'm Sweeney I'm knocking down Staios door. They discuss it around the 45 minute mark.

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[Bong Whisperer]

I pulled this from the Heinen thread but it belongs here:

“I have to be able to find some players that can come in and provide secondary scoring for us at key opportune times,” the general manager admitted last week, per Shinzawa.

Secondary scoring. I must of missed where all the primary scoring was coming from.

Sounds like Sweeney is going to do exactly what you don't want your GM to do on July 1st, overpay with $$$$ and term for B-level forwards. Fluto basically rules out chasing any of the top goal scorers in free agency. Don Sweeney and his army of 15 goal, 40 point guys.

Exactly! How long have the Bruins been looking for secondary scoring? Except for the 2011 team, it ain’t been seen. Cue, “Somewhere Over The Rainbow”.