Blue Jays GDT: 2023 v5 | Wed, June 7 | vs HOU | 7:00pm ET/4:00pm PT | Blanco vs Bassitt

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

Just let Don Mattingly take over already

 

[The Nemesis]

Speaking of logical fallacies: where did I say he was a shit fielder? Don't lecture about fallacies after committing one yourself.

That's... not a logical fallacy.

You said "I thought he was supposed to be great outfielder" in response to him failing to make those plays. You might not have literally said he's a shit fielder (for that matter I never even said you said that. I said that people judge plays to be shit/bad independent of degree of difficulty), but the implication of your post is that he's not good (or not as good as he's supposed to be.)

If you're going to try and smugly try to pull that turnabout play, make sure it actually makes sense first.

 

[The Nemesis]

Once again, i'd like to see Gurriel try and make that play since people here are fawning over him so much.

They never even would've put him into CF to replace Kiermaier. It would've been Teoscar. Which also would've been an adventure.

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

Springer would of injured himself if he was in CF

 

[shaner8989]

What a great addition Varsho is. So pitiful

 

[GoonieFace]

Once again, i'd like to see Gurriel try and make that play since people here are fawning over him so much.

He would have ran in on both of those balls. Such clueless people on here

 

[RoadWarrior]

They never even would've put him into CF to replace Kiermaier. It would've been Teoscar. Which also would've been an adventure.

Teoscar can at least pound the baseball. Varsho does nothing.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Teoscar can at least pound the baseball. Varsho does nothing.

Have you bothered to watch Teoscar at all this season or no?

Guarantee you would have also been bitching he did nothing too given his first 40 or so games.

 

[GoonieFace]

What a great addition Varsho is. So pitiful

What’s pitiful is all you do is whine, but you still watch. How about take a break for awhile

 

[RoadWarrior]

He would have ran in on both of those balls. Such clueless people on here

The clueless people are those doing mental gymnastics trying to defend one of the dumbest and lopsided trades in blue jays history.

Have you bothered to watch Teoscar at all this season or no?

Teoscar despite his struggles this season is still better than minor leaguer Varsho.

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

Hernandez was garbage in the OF he was expendable, Gurriel was better then Hernandez in the OF but he also wasn't the greatest ever, but he did have a hell of an arm, and his bat was good, I never agreed with letting him go.

 

[GoonieFace]

The clueless people are those doing mental gymnastics trying to defend one of the dumbest and lopsided trades in blue jays history.


Teoscar despite his struggles this season is still better than minor leaguer Varsho.

Lol, we are 1/3 of the way through the season and you’ve already written it off as a lopsided trade? That’s clueless

 

[Blitzkrug]

The clueless people are those doing mental gymnastics trying to defend one of the dumbest and lopsided trades in blue jays history.


Teoscar despite his struggles this season is still better than minor leaguer Varsho.

Incorrect.

Hernandez: 51 GP - .232 AVG /270 OBP./.404 SLG, 9 HR, 674 OPS (88 OPS+), 0.4 WAR

Varsho: 51 GP - 209 AVG/.278 OBP/.361 SLG, 7 HR, 640 OPS (79 OPS+), 1.0 WAR

Varsho gets on base more, and unlike Teoscar isn't completely useless when he isn't hitting.

 

[RoadWarrior]

Hernandez was garbage in the OF he was expendable, Gurriel was better then Hernandez in the OF but he also wasn't the greatest ever, but he did have a hell of an arm, and his bat was good, I never agreed with letting him go.

I can see a Roger’s exec complaining about his hair and ordering shatkins to dump him. That’s how pathetic this organization is.

 

[MK78]

Well this certainly ends Bassit's "quality start" streak at 4.

 

[LaP]

He would have ran in on both of those balls. Such clueless people on here

Not sure who is more clueless. Someone who thinks defense doesn't matter or someone who thinks the only thing that matters is defense? Jays improved the defense but at what cost? Team can't score runs and Varsho is part of that problem for sure atm.

 

[RoadWarrior]

Incorrect.

Hernandez: 51 GP - .232 AVG /270 OBP./.404 SLG, 9 HR, 674 OPS (88 OPS+), 0.4 WAR

Varsho: 51 GP - 209 AVG/.278 OBP/.361 SLG, 7 HR, 640 OPS (79 OPS+), 1.0 WAR

Varsho gets on base more, and unlike Teoscar isn't completely useless when he isn't hitting.

That was before his defensive blunders in this game. I wouldnt be clinging to that 1.0 defensive WAR if I were you. He’s a black hole on offense 79 OPS+ LOL!

also he was traded for Gurriel plus Moreno. The trade is not even close. Moreno would be the jays top catcher right now.

 

[Blitzkrug]

That was before his defensive blunders in this game. I wouldnt be clinging to that 1.0 defensive WAR if I were you. He’s a black hole on offense 79 OPS+ LOL!

also he was traded for Gurriel plus Moreno. The trade is not even close. Moreno would be the jays top catcher right now.

Barely missing robbing back to back homers isn't a blunder. Go crawl in the same hole shaner crawled out of.

 

[RoadWarrior]

Lol, we are 1/3 of the way through the season and you’ve already written it off as a lopsided trade? That’s clueless

the early returns indicate the trade was a colossal blunder by incompetent management. - That’s what buds do….

Barely missing robbing back to back homers isn't a blunder. Go crawl in the same hole shaner crawled out of.

Does KK miss those balls? I think not.

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

I can see a Roger’s exec complaining about his hair and ordering shatkins to dump him. That’s how pathetic this organization is.

Meh they're not the Yankees

 

[RoadWarrior]

Meh they're not the Yankees

They’re creeping towards Steinbrenner Yankee territory.

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

This teams definitely not as deep as many projected at the beginning of the season.

 

[ShaneFalco]

The clueless people are those doing mental gymnastics trying to defend one of the dumbest and lopsided trades in blue jays history.


Teoscar despite his struggles this season is still better than minor leaguer Varsho.

Maybe look at contracts and beyond year 1 - but ilm probably just clueless

 

[The Nemesis]

Meh they're not the Yankees

the irony is that the likely replacement manager if Schneider gets canned is Mattingly, who famously presided over a Yankees-esque hair policy when he managed the Marlins.

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

the irony is that the likely replacement manager if Schneider gets canned is Mattingly, who famously presided over a Yankees-esque hair policy when he managed the Marlins.

Well Gurriel isn't here anymore anyways