Blue Jays GDT: 2023 v13 | **WILDCARD SERIES GAME 2** Wed, Oct 4 | @ Min | 4:30pm ET/1:30pm PT | Berrios vs Gray

[Captain Crunch]

Just finished the game.

Berrios move was really bad but the bats were awful again. I said before the all star break hitting coaches needed a change but nothing.

Schneider, Atkins and hitting coaches need to go.

The funny thing is, with Mattingly there, why in hell were they so awful at hitting, especially in clutch situations?

 

[canucksfan]

The funny thing is, with Mattingly there, why in hell were they so awful at hitting, especially in clutch situations?

I doubt mattingly did much with the hitting but could be wrong there.

 

[Evilhomer]

If this season accomplished anything it’s turned a lot of fans off of this team. Can’t imagine many people will care about them much next year.

They really do risk going back to attendance numbers from the dark years.

 

[VanillaCoke]

I doubt mattingly did much with the hitting but could be wrong there.

Didnt seem like he did much all season tbh

 

[TGB]

Shocker. The team that couldn't get it done against Texas, couldn't get 8 wins to assure a clinch, couldn't close that one game against Tampa, and couldn't get one more win-Seattle had to clinch for them-just couldn't get it done when it mattered. Once again, the only thing this offense excelled at is hitting into double plays. And boneheaded base running mistakes.

My condolences to the pitching staff. They did their job holding the Twins to just 5 runs the whole series. You deserved better.

Looking ahead to possible offseason moves:

ROTATION: For the first time ever that I can remember, the Jays don't have to do anything here. Manoah will likely rebound and they have Tiedmann and Franchis for depth, plus others.

BULLPEN: Same thing. They actually have more interesting pitchers than they have available slots. Aside from locking down Hicks, they're pretty much covered.

EVERYTHING ELSE: Offense. Don't be surprised if they make a solid run at Bellinger, and with 60 mil coming off the books, they can afford him (doubt he'll come to Toronto though). Also don't be surprised if they bring back players like Teoscar or even Belt given how he ended off the season. The only real question mark is what they're going to do at 3rd. They could resign Chapman, but he's a Boras client and will be looking for $20m over 5 ($15 if it were anyone else). They will likely be looking to trade their excess of mid 20s+ infield prospects. Outside of Martinez, I don't see any of them being untouchable.

 

[CherryToke]

How can Vladdy not speak a lick of English yet?

Same reason his arms are still flabby

 

[canucksfan]

They really do risk going back to attendance numbers from the dark years.

Their attendance increased this year. No concern from that area.

 

[dredeye]

Berrios tearing up, feel terrible for him.

hopefully it doesn’t hurt his confidence in the future.

 

[EpochLink]

The funny thing is, with Mattingly there, why in hell were they so awful at hitting, especially in clutch situations?

Don’t think Mattingly was involved in the hitting aspect, more so a game manager behind Schneider. That hitting coach was f***ing shit

 

[Hannibal]

Tell me why we choose the dynamic duo instead of Anthopoulos again?

 

[canucksfan]

 

[BobColesNasalCavity]

Yeah he was so happy he cried with joy that he can be on a plane to the Dominican in a couple days and feast on mama's cooking.

People saying Vlad missed his flight back to the Dominican because he got picked off going through customs

 

[canucksfan]

Tell me why we choose the dynamic duo instead of Anthopoulos again?

This always comes up, the team offered Alex a contract and he didn't want to stay.

 

[MK78]

This always comes up, the team offered Alex a contract and he didn't want to stay.

Because he knew that Shapiro would meddle and he wanted none of it.

He bet on himself and it worked out quite nicely.

 

[shaner8989]

But but but the offense is good and and and belt is good and and and Varsho was the right trade and and and we don’t need Moreno and and chapman was so good for 2 months

Oh those were good times

f*** this team

 

[MK78]

I guess the players know. That must really sting.

 

[mikeyz]

Vladdy's issue is that he spends too much time in the batting cages.

Vladdy's issue is he had the baseball IQ of a raisin this season.

Speaking of raisins and food, him and Kirk need to take the same approach this season and drop some weight.

 

[canucksfan]

Because he knew that Shapiro would meddle and he wanted none of it.

He bet on himself and it worked out quite nicely.

Do you have proof of that?

 

[Nineteen67]

Berrios giving it all. Almost to tears in his interviews. Can tell he didn’t want out but knew there was a “plan”

The GM was involved in the game plan.

 

[mikeyz]

But but but the offense is good and and and belt is good and and and Varsho was the right trade and and and we don’t need Moreno and and chapman was so good for 2 months

Oh those were good times

f*** this team

We're undefeated buddy when it comes to our predictions of Toronto sports teams. And the pom pom wavers hate it. And I absolutely love it. LMFAO

 

[MK78]

Do you have proof of that?

No I don't have proof, but I remember that being quite widely discussed at the time.

Shapiro wanted a guy he can influence easily. Atkins was the guy. and he's still here.

 

[mikeyz]

Do you have proof of that?

The proof was the decision to take Berrios out of the game today.

Guaranteed that Shapiro and Atkins had a hand in that.

 

[MK78]

We're undefeated buddy when it comes to our predictions of Toronto sports teams. And the pom pom wavers hate it. And I absolutely love it. LMFAO

After that listless performance yesterday, I knew they were done today. I posted yesterday "Fortunately, it'll be over tomorrow".

 

[canucksfan]

The proof was the decision to take Berrios out of the game today.

Guaranteed that Shapiro and Atkins had a hand in that.

What does this have to do with Alex Anthopolous?

 

[MS]

I liked AA, but why are we still talking about a GM that left 8 years ago?