Blue Jays GDT: 2023 v13 | **WILDCARD SERIES GAME 2** Wed, Oct 4 | @ Min | 4:30pm ET/1:30pm PT | Berrios vs Gray

[Discoverer]

Twins have literally lost 18 playoff games in a row...that's just crazy.

A little perspective the first loss of the streak Alex Rodriguez was considered a playoff beast...he went 4-5 in that game and drove in the tying run (almost a walk off)

It was so long ago that Pat Borders played in that game for the Twins.

 

[Eyedea]

I’d line it up like this

1. Springer
2. Belt
3. Bichette
4. Vlad
5. Biggio
6. Kirk
7. Varsho
8. Chapman
9. Kiermaier

I doubt Davis Schneider will get many at bats with Biggio playing so well but if there’s any match ups vs lefties I would have no problem using Schneider vs LHP. He has a 1.300 OPS vs lefties :|

They’ve never had Bo hitting 3rd this season with Vladdy in the lineup, have they? I think they like Bo driving guys in now which makes sense since Belt/Vladdy get on base at higher clips. I also think based on recent lineup construction they like moving Kiermaier up to 7 and having Varsho bat last. Seems like he’s been hitting a lot better (same with Chappy at 8) in the SSS as the 9.

 

[tmlfan98]

This team better not decide on Bassitt over Kikuchi as the game 3 starter if it gets to that point. Imagine seeing Bassitt get rocked by the Twins again in a game 3 scenario, just like his start against them in the regular season.

 

[shaner8989]

Find a way. Grind it out. Hopefully Gausman is dealing and they can find a way to get a couple runs with that shitty offense.

Go Jays

 

[CabanaBoy5]

I like the lineup with Chapman 8 and Varsho 9. It's where they should have been hitting all season if Kirk, Belt, and Biggio were hitting as they have been recently.

 

[the valiant effort]

Let’s go Jays!

I want Playoff Springer.

 

[fancy lad]

seems strange that they have not announced their playoff roster yet.

 

[canucksfan]

seems strange that they have not announced their playoff roster yet.

I don't think any team has yet

 

[rojac]

I don't think any team has yet

Should be soon. The deadline is 10 a.m. ET.

 

[Bjindaho]

If he doesn't get claimed, Jackson is actually postseason eligible despite the DFA

 

[tmlfan98]

 

[Suntouchable13]

Please win! I want to see playoff atmosphere at the Dome again.

 

[Hoverhand]

In 10 starts since the beginning of August, Bassitt has averaged 6.2 innings at a 2.81 ERA. Regardless of matchups, seems odd to see multiple people in this thread down on him.

 

[Discoverer]

In 10 starts since the beginning of August, Bassitt has averaged 6.2 innings at a 2.81 ERA. Regardless of matchups, seems odd to see multiple people in this thread down on him.

Yeah, I don't think one bad start against the Twins 4 months ago should override everything he's done this year.

 

[Discoverer]

The makes the move feel a lot better. No one was going to claim him because the season is over, he's not eligible to play for anyone else in the playoffs, and he's a pending free agent. So you get Parsons in to try to eat a few extra innings, then once Jackson clears you can just DFA Parsons, add Jackson back to the 40-man, and you're right back where you started.

 

[Bjindaho]

The makes the move feel a lot better. No one was going to claim him because the season is over, he's not eligible to play for anyone else in the playoffs, and he's a pending free agent. So you get Parsons in to try to eat a few extra innings, then once Jackson clears you can just DFA Parsons, add Jackson back to the 40-man, and you're right back where you started.

Yes, the only issue is that it should have been Mitch White, because there was at least an argument that he could have pitched a few innings (Jackson HAD to be DFAd, so a 40 man spot was opening either way)

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

Gonna be honest I'm a pretty bad modern day Jays fan, but I'm gonna watch this game.

Love that it's at 4:30pm

Just seems like a potentially awesome "bandwagon" game. Used to be huge into baseball but that was a long time ago.

Maybe this will pull me back in. Let's Go Blue Jays! Let's Play Ball!

 

[Dr.Funk]

Blue Jays reveal Wild Card roster ahead of series against Twins Toronto Blue Jays reveal Wild Card roster ahead of series against Minnesota Twins | TSN

 

[Discoverer]

Yes, the only issue is that it should have been Mitch White, because there was at least an argument that he could have pitched a few innings (Jackson HAD to be DFAd, so a 40 man spot was opening either way)

I can see that, but I could also see that maybe they want to give White another chance next year considering how much he dominated the last month or two in Buffalo. So the issue maybe have been that they didn't want to DFA White after the start and risk losing him, while they don't really care if they lose Parsons (and he's less likely to be claimed, anyway.)

 

[Da Cool Rula]

Delete

 

[Dr.Funk]

[tweet]https://x.com/kaitlyncmcgrath/status/1709222832134037680?s=20[/tweet]

is this legit?

Yes

 

[Da Cool Rula]

Yes

Ok thx

 

[Dr.Funk]

This team better not decide on Bassitt over Kikuchi as the game 3 starter if it gets to that point. Imagine seeing Bassitt get rocked by the Twins again in a game 3 scenario, just like his start against them in the regular season.

Anybody other than Bassitt would be a crime. He may bomb he may not but he is a clear top 3 starter on this team with Gausman and Berrios.

You send your 3 best out there.

 

[phillipmike]

Last year i expected the Jays to beat the Mariners easily and they got swept. I've learned my lesson. I can actually enjoy it now because i go in with no expectations - probably that they will lose, so if we win, i will be pleasantly surprised.

Nonetheless, the Twins are no slouch, they are better than us in all categories except defense.

Starters:
Twins 12 fWAR (Lopez, Gray, and Ryan)
Toronto: 10.9 fWAR (Gausman, Berrios and Bassitt)

I kept out Maeda, Ober, Kikuchi and Ryu.

Bullpen:
Twins 7 fWAR (Jax, Pagan, Dhuran, Stewart, Funderburk, and Varland)
Toronto: 5.3 fWAR (Mayza, Romano, Garicia, Swanson, Cabrera, Green and Hicks)

wRC+:
Twins 109
Toronto: 107

DRS:
Twins: 33
Toronto: 82

The only edge the Jays have are in;
-Defense
-Twins also have an 18 game playoff losing streak - so the Jays may have a mental edge. In addition, the Jays were battle tested all season playing against tougher competition. The Twins have been coasting since August.

However, the Twins own Gausman over the last few years and his splitter has been hit hard by them. Not to mention all their lefties in their lineup which is Bassistt's kryptonite along with playing on the road.

All things point towards a Twins series win quite easily. So go in thinking that and if the Jays win, you will be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Last year i expected the Jays to beat the Mariners easily and they got swept. I've learned my lesson. I can actually enjoy it now because i go in with no expectations - probably that they will lose, so if we win, i will be pleasantly surprised.

Nonetheless, the Twins are no slouch, they are better than us in all categories except defense.

Starters:
Twins 12 fWAR (Lopez, Gray, and Ryan)
Toronto: 10.9 fWAR (Gausman, Berrios and Bassitt)

I kept out Maeda, Ober, Kikuchi and Ryu.

Bullpen:
Twins 7 fWAR (Jax, Pagan, Dhuran, Stewart, Funderburk, and Varland)
Toronto: 5.3 fWAR (Mayza, Romano, Garicia, Swanson, Cabrera, Green and Hicks)

wRC+:
Twins 109
Toronto: 107

DRS:
Twins: 33
Toronto: 82

The only edge the Jays have are in;
-Defense
-Twins also have an 18 game playoff losing streak - so the Jays may have a mental edge. In addition, the Jays were battle tested all season playing against tougher competition. The Twins have been coasting since August.

However, the Twins own Gausman over the last few years and his splitter has been hit hard by them. Not to mention all their lefties in their lineup which is Bassistt's kryptonite along with playing on the road.

All things point towards a Twins series win quite easily. So go in thinking that and if the Jays win, you will be pleasantly surprised.

Road shouldn’t be an issue. Jays score more runs on the road than at home.