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hidek91

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They didn’t give him a chance to start the year either. Has him there all camp only to drop him for game 1. He responds by playing a really good game. They respond by playing him 9 minutes and under 6 the following 2 games. He was never given a chance
If any other player forechecked, defended and look as lost during 5v5 as Holtz did, he woudn't sniff 10 minutes per game as well. Unless Holtz improves (which I hope he does), he's a gigantic liability because of his weaknesses and he doesn't make up for this with his strength because he can't create shooting opportunities because of how bad his all-around game is. He looks alright on power play, where he has more time to pass etc. but it's not nearly enough, they don't hate him, they assess him quite fairly IMO.
 
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I mean when your top two centers are Jack and Nico and your next two are Boqvist/Haula and McLeod there is kind of a top six difference here
Right. I don't think they have some video game depth chart which assigns lines based on top 6 or bottom 6, but whichever players are with Nico or Jack are clearly the top 2 lines on this team.
 

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I mean when your top two centers are Jack and Nico and your next two are Boqvist/Haula and McLeod there is kind of a top six difference here
But they have tried to make the 3rd line a top-9 top line (just driven by wingers), which is why Mercer has spent a lot of the season there and Palat is there now.
 

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If this shit goes til Friday…

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At this point I highly doubt it.
 

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So this post is allowed to stand? Aight.

Let me rephrase my response then.

Yes lines are often fluid. Coaches do try to spread the talent, and like I said, ideally they have the talent to roll a "top 9" type of lineup. But often they can not. And that is why the McLeod at one point was considered a third line. That highlights the difference between the top 6 and bottom 6 on this team.

Sure sometimes(though very rarely) Bratt will play on the 3rd line, and Mercer and Tatar too. But come playoffs Bratt is not on Boq's wing. Meier is not on Boq's wing. Those guys, like Nico and Hughes, are in the top 6, and then you shake out the rest of the lineup from there.

Perhaps in the years ahead Mercer develops and becomes our 3rd line center so as to make NJ a "top 9" type of team, but as constructed? We are a "top 6 / bottom6" style of team.
But you knew he meant Bratt and Mercer have played the third line and are our best top-6 wingers before Meier shows up lol. You do sort of love taking a single part of a larger picture to focus and debate on

Triumph should leave the first sentence out though, he just cant help himself sometimes :/
 

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I hate to be that guy but Meier or no Meier doesn’t make a difference. Sure he’s a nice player but the flaws on this team will not be masked by just another Swiss born player. I wish Fitz would get over this fetish of his. This is a hockey team. It’s a business. Not a friends slumber party. This team has somehow lucked its way into the record it has but the bus will come screeching to a halt when they face the Broadway Bullies in round 1. And hearing that Kane is all but a done deal across the Hudson is just a terrifying proposition. The Rangers will push us around and skate circles around us at the same time. Not a year to be buying and quite frankly I don’t see a buying year in the near future for us in this house of horrors division.
WTF? We need more canadians or what? Is it meta modern irony? I hope,
 

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I hate to be that guy but Meier or no Meier doesn’t make a difference. Sure he’s a nice player but the flaws on this team will not be masked by just another Swiss born player. I wish Fitz would get over this fetish of his. This is a hockey team. It’s a business. Not a friends slumber party. This team has somehow lucked its way into the record it has but the bus will come screeching to a halt when they face the Broadway Bullies in round 1. And hearing that Kane is all but a done deal across the Hudson is just a terrifying proposition. The Rangers will push us around and skate circles around us at the same time. Not a year to be buying and quite frankly I don’t see a buying year in the near future for us in this house of horrors division.

The same Rangers team that is slow, doesn't have anyone physical outside of Trouba, and their bottom D is hot garbage? Come on now.
 
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The same Rangers team that is slow, doesn't have anyone physical outside of Trouba, and their bottom D is hot garbage? Come on now.
You got DevilDoggo’ed.

It was a satirical fake statement as if coming from the above user who quit being a Devils fan earlier this season because the Rangers were the team who rebuilt properly and the Devils never would.
 

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Julie is just speculating, responding to Pagnotta of all people although the ‘can’t pay a forward more than Hughes’ stuff is complete nonsense

She should know better then to take GM speak literally.

People really think Fitz is going to go out and say he can't way to sign people to $10 million?
 

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You got DevilDoggo’ed.

It was a satirical fake statement as if coming from the above user who quit being a Devils fan earlier this season because the Rangers were the team who rebuilt properly and the Devils never would.

I missed that story.
 

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I hate to be that guy but Meier or no Meier doesn’t make a difference. Sure he’s a nice player but the flaws on this team will not be masked by just another Swiss born player. I wish Fitz would get over this fetish of his. This is a hockey team. It’s a business. Not a friends slumber party. This team has somehow lucked its way into the record it has but the bus will come screeching to a halt when they face the Broadway Bullies in round 1. And hearing that Kane is all but a done deal across the Hudson is just a terrifying proposition. The Rangers will push us around and skate circles around us at the same time. Not a year to be buying and quite frankly I don’t see a buying year in the near future for us in this house of horrors division.
Lol, yeah because Kane and Artemi are grinders… oh yeah and the Rangers crease is seeing more action than the Kardashians sisters on prom night
 
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How much would you be willing to give Minnesota to use its last retention spot in a Meier deal just to screw over the Rangers and Kane?
 
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How much would you be willing to give Minnesota to use its last retention spot in a Meier deal just to screw over the Rangers and Kane?
Oh dont you worry. NHL will install a new temporary cap for the Rags to make that trade. Whatever it takes.

Lot of people missing the satirical @RangerDoggo reference and treating it like a serious post. :laugh:
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But you knew he meant Bratt and Mercer have played the third line and are our best top-6 wingers before Meier shows up lol. You do sort of love taking a single part of a larger picture to focus and debate on

Triumph should leave the first sentence out though, he just cant help himself sometimes :/

Bratt has played over 700 minutes 5v5 with Nico and Hughes. 30 minutes with Boq. Clearly highlighting the top 6, bottom 6 distinction.

Mercer has played about 1/3 of his time with Boq, but until this recent run, wasn't exactly setting the world on fire. This run has affirmed his spot on the top 6 with this team. Highly doubt we see much of him with Boq the rest of the way.

If Meier comes here, he is with Nico or Hughes.

Yes at some point the Devils would love to have a good 3rd line center so we can run more as a top 9 type of team, and maybe Mercer is eventually that guy, but right now, we have a clear top 6 bottom 6 distinction.
 
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