GDT: 2023 Trade Deadline

[FinnishDevil]

I wish Gibson wasn't so damn expensive...

 

[HBK27]

The Ducks claiming Harrington on waivers really screwed things up a bit. That was NHL defensive depth for the deadline that we would've been able to stash in Utica. Now we may have to give up another asset to get a similar defenseman. In hindsight, Fitz should've just kept him on the NHL roster through today when it expands - a rare Fitzy blunder (I think - though I'm open to arguments against it).

CapFriendly is saying we have $1.26M in cap space - though that includes having Clarke on the roster, so adding in his salary bumps that up to ~$2.11M. However, if we plan on adding Luke to the regular season roster once he's done at Michigan (which we should absolutely do to give him some NHL games before playoffs), then we need to have ~900K in cap space carved out for him - so I think we're looking at ~$1.21M in cap space available for any addition today unless we're also shipping someone out, which I don't think we should do.

At forward, we're basically looking at Boqvist or Sharangovich being the odd man out with everyone healthy, but then there's not much depth beyond that as Holtz and Clarke are next up, which you don't really want to see in the playoffs. After them - ??? Foote? Thompson? They at least have some NHL experience, but we're very thin. Johnsson wasn't much of a loss and had to be dealt for cap reasons, but at least you could've plugged him into the lineup and he wouldn't hurt you too much (wouldn't help you too much either). This is where you maybe could've used some AHL vets with NHL experience on Utica's roster. I guess there's also *shudders* Geertsen available as well if needed.

On defense, I'm really liking what Bahl has been doing lately and would be fine with him as the 6th defenseman and Smith as the 7th defenseman heading into the playoffs. They may not need to be though depending on how Luke looks as I could easily see him slotting into that spot. That's what Makar did, though I realize Luke (nor anyone else) is Makar. Beyond that you also have Nemec, who I think is a mighty fine #9 depth chart option, and Wotherspoon as a #10 - which if we get to that point then WTF. Anyway, would've felt better having Harrington in that mix, but I think we're largely good on defense.

I know Fitz has mentioned goalies, but I don't think you do anything there - are we really going to find anyone better than Vanecek, Blackwood or Schmid? Daws has a good amount of NHL experience as well - particularly for a #4 goalie on the depth chart.

I know GM's generally like to load up on defenseman at the deadline, but I think the bigger hole may be a depth forward. Or maybe Fitz gets a 3rd/4th liner that bumps somebody else down to create depth.

I really, really don't want to see our 2nd rounder in play today. With no 1st and no 3rd, I don't want to go into the draft not picking until the 4th round. As I mentioned previously, there will likely be a prospect that the Devils grade as a 1st rounder dropping towards the end of the 2nd round. If Fitz just makes a minor move for a 5th-7th round pick, I'm fine with that.

 

[Cheddabombs]

Have a half day off today, trade deadline day, and potentially a Timo debut. Let's have a great day here pals!

 

[Better Call Sal]

The Ducks claiming Harrington on waivers really screwed things up a bit. That was NHL defensive depth for the deadline that we would've been able to stash in Utica. Now we may have to give up another asset to get a similar defenseman. In hindsight, Fitz should've just kept him on the NHL roster through today when it expands - a rare Fitzy blunder (I think - though I'm open to arguments against it).

I can't fault Fitz for thinking he'd clear when he already did clear waivers twice this season. Who would have thought one of the worst teams in the league would grab him?

 

[HBK27]

I can't fault Fitz for thinking he'd clear when he already did clear waivers twice this season. Who would have thought one of the worst teams in the league would grab him?

True - wonder if the Ducks would deal him for a 7th rounder. Why not?

 

[Hisch13r]

Teams don't want to give up much for a forward with 2 more years at 3 mil who has 7 pts in 45 games and has probably getting carried around for a few years on his line? Crazy

 

[Triumph]

I believe if Harrington was not put on waivers before Clear Day, he would not be eligible to play in the AHL at all for Utica? That may not be right, but it appears to be right based on this old AHL.com entry.

 

[johnny pierogi]

Let's make it happen and don't tell me it won't

 

[Hisch13r]

I believe if Harrington was not put on waivers before Clear Day, he would not be eligible to play in the AHL at all for Utica? That may not be right, but it appears to be right based on this old AHL.com entry.

Yes. Amanda just tweeted something out relating to that.

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

They may not need to be though depending on how Luke looks as I could easily see him slotting into that spot. That's what Makar did, though I realize Luke (nor anyone else) is Makar.

I know GM's generally like to load up on defenseman at the deadline, but I think the bigger hole may be a depth forward. Or maybe Fitz gets a 3rd/4th liner that bumps somebody else down to create depth.

The reason why I'm iffy about Luke is not him, but who he'd be playing with and that makes me uncomfortable. I don't really care what anyone says, Severson won't be able to shelter Luke. He can barely take care of himself. Having 2 offensive d-men with 1 of them being a rookie is not going to end well. There is option of trying Luke with Marino and slot Graves down, but ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I'm hesitant, but it could work out.

I agree that forward depth is the biggest need. Like you said, they're kinda thin.

 

[Hisch13r]

I know he didn't really have value but I'm assuming this comes with no retention which is why it's basically nothing rather than like a 3rd

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

I wonder if Adam Ruzicka could be moved. He seems to be in Sutter’s doghouse. Could be okay center depth.

 

[Hisch13r]

The reason why I'm iffy about Luke is not him, but who he'd be playing with and that makes me uncomfortable. I don't really care what anyone says, Severson won't be able to shelter Luke. He can barely take care of himself. Having 2 offensive d-men with 1 of them being a rookie is not going to end well. There is option of trying Luke with Marino and slot Graves down, but ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I'm hesitant, but it could work out.

I agree that forward depth is the biggest need. Like you said, they're kinda thin.

Ty-Sevo was a really good pair in 2021. Luke is better than Ty and they'd facing softer usage than that pair did. Sure it's the playoffs so it's tougher but the positive should easily outweigh the negatives.

I know he didn't really have value but I'm assuming this comes with no retention which is why it's basically nothing rather than like a 3rd

Or not I guess. CJ just said 50% retention

 

[Triumph]

I don't really know what St. Louis is doing. Getting Vrana and Kapanen basically caps them out. They must have some much larger move they're thinking of doing, either now or in the off-season.

 

[TF1970]

i am perfectly content if fitz doesn't do anything today

 

[FinnishDevil]

Yeah there is further knowledge about whatever Vrana is dealing with and he has absolutely no value whatsoever. Hopefully he beats what ever is bothering him.

 

[Hisch13r]

The Ducks claiming Harrington on waivers really screwed things up a bit. That was NHL defensive depth for the deadline that we would've been able to stash in Utica. Now we may have to give up another asset to get a similar defenseman. In hindsight, Fitz should've just kept him on the NHL roster through today when it expands - a rare Fitzy blunder (I think - though I'm open to arguments against it).

CapFriendly is saying we have $1.26M in cap space - though that includes having Clarke on the roster, so adding in his salary bumps that up to ~$2.11M. However, if we plan on adding Luke to the regular season roster once he's done at Michigan (which we should absolutely do to give him some NHL games before playoffs), then we need to have ~900K in cap space carved out for him - so I think we're looking at ~$1.21M in cap space available for any addition today unless we're also shipping someone out, which I don't think we should do.

At forward, we're basically looking at Boqvist or Sharangovich being the odd man out with everyone healthy, but then there's not much depth beyond that as Holtz and Clarke are next up, which you don't really want to see in the playoffs. After them - ??? Foote? Thompson? They at least have some NHL experience, but we're very thin. Johnsson wasn't much of a loss and had to be dealt for cap reasons, but at least you could've plugged him into the lineup and he wouldn't hurt you too much (wouldn't help you too much either). This is where you maybe could've used some AHL vets with NHL experience on Utica's roster. I guess there's also *shudders* Geertsen available as well if needed.

On defense, I'm really liking what Bahl has been doing lately and would be fine with him as the 6th defenseman and Smith as the 7th defenseman heading into the playoffs. They may not need to be though depending on how Luke looks as I could easily see him slotting into that spot. That's what Makar did, though I realize Luke (nor anyone else) is Makar. Beyond that you also have Nemec, who I think is a mighty fine #9 depth chart option, and Wotherspoon as a #10 - which if we get to that point then WTF. Anyway, would've felt better having Harrington in that mix, but I think we're largely good on defense.

I know Fitz has mentioned goalies, but I don't think you do anything there - are we really going to find anyone better than Vanecek, Blackwood or Schmid? Daws has a good amount of NHL experience as well - particularly for a #4 goalie on the depth chart.

I know GM's generally like to load up on defenseman at the deadline, but I think the bigger hole may be a depth forward. Or maybe Fitz gets a 3rd/4th liner that bumps somebody else down to create depth.

I really, really don't want to see our 2nd rounder in play today. With no 1st and no 3rd, I don't want to go into the draft not picking until the 4th round. As I mentioned previously, there will likely be a prospect that the Devils grade as a 1st rounder dropping towards the end of the 2nd round. If Fitz just makes a minor move for a 5th-7th round pick, I'm fine with that.

Luke doesn't even need to come in as Makar considering how good the other 5D are. Even if he comes in as like a bit worse version of Quinn or Power then that's an insane 6D.

 

[Saugus]

I know he didn't really have value but I'm assuming this comes with no retention which is why it's basically nothing rather than like a 3rd

That's such a nothing return. I guess the Blues want to experiment with a reclamation project.

 

[Devil X]

That's such a nothing return. I guess the Blues want to experiment with a reclamation project.

That's a good reclamation project. I'm not sure why he was in the player assistance program but if he can get it together he could be a good player. If he didnt have the contract he had I would have looked to bring him in.

 

[NJDevs26]

LOL

 

[Hisch13r]

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Yeah I'm not really expecting much excitement today, might even do my job

 

[FinnishDevil]

Its good to play it safe. McDavid is still young and needs to prove he can do it when it matters. Maybe if he breaks 200 points this season, EDM will upgrade the team around him.

i know they got ekholm and bjug but their team is still so average

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I don't really know what St. Louis is doing. Getting Vrana and Kapanen basically caps them out. They must have some much larger move they're thinking of doing, either now or in the off-season.

sounds like they want to move Parayko this summer from what I read

 

[MauDevils]

As expected today.