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WJC: 2023 Team Canada Roster Talk

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PecnoTrunk said:
What hurts the most is that Quebec doesn’t seem to improve. Actually going backwards or that there is no respect for the Q

Finland has less people then Quebec but produce way better players. There is something that Quebec is doing wrong. They need to change. At one point Quebec used to have the best goalies , they can’t even do that right.

I think the system in Quebec needs an overhaul there are less and less Quebecers in the nhl
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Quebec has needed to change its development system for some time now. I recall reading about some of the issues a few years back, not sure if they remain. Don't know the relevance of comparing it to Finland, which only started producing elite players in noteworthy quantity very recently, but yes things can improve. Ontario has certainly cooled off from where it was as well, which isn't to say that Ontario is doing poorly but it was producing tremendous players in large amounts for quite some time. A few years back Hockey Canada made changes to playing some youth hockey across the width of the ice rather than the length, though I'm not sure how widely that has been implemented. There is definite room for improvement in Canada, though I won't hold out much hope for significant changes until Canada loses a best on best or two.

I'm very curious to see what the team does with draft eligible players. Looks like a strong draft upcoming for Canada. Bedard is a given, Fantilli deserves a fair look(and it helps that he is a 2004), a guy like Yager probably at least gets a camp invitation.
 
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With Shane Wright being scratched for a third straight game, is it safe to say there’s a possibility he winds up in Kingston again? Looks like they are trying to keep him to practice and develop but it doesn’t sound like he’s staying. When you looked at the 2023 World Juniors 2 years ago I had no idea it would look this good. Connor Bedard and Shane Wright can you imagine?

I agree what’s been said about the hosts bids, it’s a junior hockey tournament, it should be played in junior hockey venues, not NHL Markets. We haven’t had a real nice World Junior bid in a while, Buffalo 2018 was alright. Edmonton was a disaster with Covid, I think we have to dive all the way back to Saskatoon/Regina in 2011. That place was wild. Halifax is going to bring a lot of nostalgia/present into play in this years tournament and it’s going to be packed and loud. It’s going to be a crazy 10 days of hockey, Obviously losing Russia is a big blow to the tournament and I’m sure the Moncton games will be pretty average with previous years of dual host viewership. But Halifax is going to be one of the best World Juniors in a long time. Hopefully the East Coast Weather cooperates! Go Canada!

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cmcneil02 said:
With Shane Wright being scratched for a third straight game, is it safe to say there’s a possibility he winds up in Kingston again? Looks like they are trying to keep him to practice and develop but it doesn’t sound like he’s staying. When you looked at the 2023 World Juniors 2 years ago I had no idea it would look this good. Connor Bedard and Shane Wright can you imagine?

I agree what’s been said about the hosts bids, it’s a junior hockey tournament, it should be played in junior hockey venues, not NHL Markets. We haven’t had a real nice World Junior bid in a while, Buffalo 2018 was alright. Edmonton was a disaster with Covid, I think we have to dive all the way back to Saskatoon/Regina in 2011. That place was wild. Halifax is going to bring a lot of nostalgia/present into play in this years tournament and it’s going to be packed and loud. It’s going to be a crazy 10 days of hockey, Obviously losing Russia is a big blow to the tournament and I’m sure the Moncton games will be pretty average with previous years of dual host viewership. But Halifax is going to be one of the best World Juniors in a long time. Hopefully the East Coast Weather cooperates! Go Canada!

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I believe Francis really wants him to stay up this year - but with how Hakstol has treated him it may come down to the coach or Wright.
 
cmcneil02 said:
With Shane Wright being scratched for a third straight game, is it safe to say there’s a possibility he winds up in Kingston again? Looks like they are trying to keep him to practice and develop but it doesn’t sound like he’s staying. When you looked at the 2023 World Juniors 2 years ago I had no idea it would look this good. Connor Bedard and Shane Wright can you imagine?

I agree what’s been said about the hosts bids, it’s a junior hockey tournament, it should be played in junior hockey venues, not NHL Markets. We haven’t had a real nice World Junior bid in a while, Buffalo 2018 was alright. Edmonton was a disaster with Covid, I think we have to dive all the way back to Saskatoon/Regina in 2011. That place was wild. Halifax is going to bring a lot of nostalgia/present into play in this years tournament and it’s going to be packed and loud. It’s going to be a crazy 10 days of hockey, Obviously losing Russia is a big blow to the tournament and I’m sure the Moncton games will be pretty average with previous years of dual host viewership. But Halifax is going to be one of the best World Juniors in a long time. Hopefully the East Coast Weather cooperates! Go Canada!

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I'm hoping for some traditional crappy winter weather. The trudge from the Metro Centre (RIP) to Pizza Corner (RIP) should be long, wet, cold, but happy after a good Canada win

GermanSpitfire said:
I believe Francis really wants him to stay up this year - but with how Hakstol has treated him it may come down to the coach or Wright.
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Hakstol and Francis are both idiots and poorly suited to their positions, but Francis looks worse for saying that Wright was staying up (more or less) before the season began and he had done nothing to earn such a statement. Pretty much everyone knows that Wright should be in the OHL right now.
 
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SergeConstantin74 said:
How do you come to that conclusion?
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Lots of scouting and common sense? 2 pressure points here: Savoie was not available during the summer due to injury, so Kidney would have not participated if Savoie had been healthy. And then other players are progressing that might be more important to hockey Canada's program going forward (and were not in real contention over the summer because of the weird nature of a "replay" tournament). Geekie vs. Kidney? Yager vs. Kidney, Cristall vs. Kidney, Beck vs. Kidney etc.

I think Yager is overall a better player than Kidney already, and he proved it at Hlinka.

Plus, It's not like Kidney has a firm grasp on a set role, he's competing with others offensive players. If Wright is available for example, players like Kidney lose their spot faster than role players.
 
We are basically in November we should be able to start putting a team together but I don’t see many line combinations or rumours of who will be attending camp
 
PecnoTrunk said:
What hurts the most is that Quebec doesn’t seem to improve. Actually going backwards or that there is no respect for the Q

Finland has less people then Quebec but produce way better players. There is something that Quebec is doing wrong. They need to change. At one point Quebec used to have the best goalies , they can’t even do that right.

I think the system in Quebec needs an overhaul there are less and less Quebecers in the nhl
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Fortunately the PM of Quebec has made the “renaissance” of Quebec hockey a major political objective. He established a committee and commissioned a report, and will have a permanent board on Quebec hockey development established. Hopefully this jump starts the production of more high end players
 
Mathieukferland said:
Fortunately the PM of Quebec has made the “renaissance” of Quebec hockey a major political objective. He established a committee and commissioned a report, and will have a permanent board on Quebec hockey development established. Hopefully this jump starts the production of more high end players
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If that’s true I guess it’s good news. Quebec needs to fix what is broken. All they have to do is copy what the fins are doing or Ontario hockey commission. But I’m guessing they won’t want to copy Ontario for political reasons
 
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Mathieukferland said:
Given the chaos at Hockey Canada it seems the Halifax minor hockey coach with free time during the holidays will step in…. No joking aside I hope to Stéphane Julien or Steve Hartley given a chance
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Steve Hartley is not doing so well in Drummondville.

Stéphane Julien would be an interesting pick.

Patrick Roy once mentioned he'd be interested but I don't know if he is now.
 
Semi-Final question. Since Canada is the host does that mean they will play in the later game regardless of seating? ( the first semi game is in the afternoon )
 
Rob said:
Semi-Final question. Since Canada is the host does that mean they will play in the later game regardless of seating? ( the first semi game is in the afternoon )
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Not necessarily. In 2021 Canada hosted and played in the first semi-final game.
 
GermanSpitfire said:
Less and Less Canadians in general as hockey becomes more diverse.
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You are so right. Bring it up. Quebec hockey has been slowing downing. They need a serious review and learn from Finland. Other Canadian provinces should do their own review as well, particularly SK and MB, and BC.
 


Neat article... I'll avoid the politics part but wanted to point out how much money a WJC brings to Hockey Canada.
 
Made a quick 10 minute virtual voiceover tour of the Scotiabank Centre for anyone new to the venue going to the World Juniors this winter.

 
Is anyone a little concerned we still don't have a coach? I mean in roughly a month the selection camp roster will be named and we still don't have a coach.
 
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SpoolCat said:
Is anyone a little concerned we still don't have a coach? I mean in roughly a month the selection camp roster will be named and we still don't have a coach.
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I would hope that they are waiting for the mindless hordes to get as distracted as possible before announcing it officially but that there is already a staff in place. It is surprising that no media types have mentioned a "favourite" for the spot as far as I've seen.
 
JackSlater said:
I would hope that they are waiting for the mindless hordes to get as distracted as possible before announcing it officially but that there is already a staff in place. It is surprising that no media types have mentioned a "favourite" for the spot as far as I've seen.
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Yeah I think the staff is already working on this, just not announced. It's generally more of a late November thing.
 
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