WJC: 2023 Team Canada Roster Talk

[Gold Standard]

There is zero chance.

As you have said, they will fire some people, add some strict rules and change the name of Hockey Canada to the "Federation Of Canadian Hockey" and everyone will move on. Then, years from now, people will complain "things never really changed".

You do know that as an entity Hockey Canada wasn't always a thing. Before Hockey Canada was formed it was something else. So, it is quite likely that Hockey Canada is dissolved and something new will replace it.

 

[NordiquesForeva]

You do know that as an entity Hockey Canada wasn't always a thing. Before Hockey Canada was formed it was something else. So, it is quite likely that Hockey Canada is dissolved and something new will replace it.

It doesn’t need to be replaced by anything, really. It’s just a bureaucratic governing body that collects a toll from Canadian taxpayers and hockey registrants.. If it ceases to exist, whatever it is they do that actually needs to get done will get done by some other existing body, or otherwise it wasn’t needed in the first place.

 

[ORRFForever]

I need a break from HF - too much negativity and it wears you down. Life's just too short.

If I attacked anyone over the ugliness at Hockey Canada, I apologize - it's brought out the worst in all of us.

To ALL the great Canadian posters, I'll see you at Christmas - hopefully. Keep up the good work.

To @GermanSpitfire, thanks for all the hockey info and for keeping your end of our bet. As a recent convert, I'll see you at Church.

To @Gold Standard, I'll miss your post and keep taking your "grumpy pills" - just don't overdose on them like usually.

To @Czechboy , thanks for NOT penalizing me when I (probably) had it coming - you're a terrific Mod and a good guy.

Let's hope all this ugliness goes away so we can get back to hockey.

God bless, boys.

 

[SOLR]

They should dissolve hockey Canada
No point of even playing anymore
Let the others have a chance

The young players who have nothing to do with what happened in the past should not be penalized for a bunch of bad bureaucrats.

 

[LeProspector]

So who are the locks for the team?

 

[NewEraGM]

The young players who have nothing to do with what happened in the past should not be penalized for a bunch of bad bureaucrats.

To be fair, the same can be said for the Russian players. They had no part in what their government did yet no one had a problem banning them.

I’m Canadian but if russia was suspended, i think Canada should be too

 

[SOLR]

To be fair, the same can be said for the Russian players. They had no part in what their government did yet no one had a problem banning them.

I’m Canadian but if russia was suspended, i think Canada should be too

Awful logic, you are comparing 2-4 events over 25 years to hundreds of thousands of events.

The Russians are not banned because of the bad behaviour of a few bureaucrats.
The Russians are banned for a set of actions, by a lot more people, that are much worse. It's not something that needs to change in the "hockey culture" it's something that needs to change in Russian culture at large. Doesn't help either that the Russian Olympic committee is also banned for other reasons (re: Russian culture).

 

[GermanSpitfire]

So who are the locks for the team?

Guys who I'm not sure are going to be available:
Shane Wright
Dylan Guenther
Wyatt Johnston
Mason McTavish
Cole Sillinger
Brandt Clarke

Guys that should be avaliable:

F's
Logan Stankoven
Connor Bedard
Josh Roy
Nathan Gaucher
Zack Ostapchuk
Brennen Othmann
Mathew Savoie
Riley Kidney

D's
Oleg Zellweger
Ethan Del Mastro
Kevin Korchinski


G's
Ben Gaudreau

 

[NewEraGM]

Awful logic, you are comparing 2-4 events over 25 years to hundreds of thousands of events.

The Russians are not banned because of the bad behaviour of a few bureaucrats.
The Russians are banned for a set of actions, by a lot more people, that are much worse. It's not something that needs to change in the "hockey culture" it's something that needs to change in Russian culture at large. Doesn't help either that the Russian Olympic committee is also banned for other reasons (re: Russian culture).

I disagree. Having a “hush fund” to keep girls quiet is passed the line of what should be acceptable. It’s actually despicable. Sure, it’s not exactly the same thing and you can argue that one is worse than the other (although I’d argue Im they are both passed the point where it should matter).

If anything, the Russian players had nothing to do with the actions of their government, while for Canada, it may not be current WJC players, it’s former players, so it’s much closer and it’s part of hockey culture that even current players are a part of

 

[jj cale]

I can't even think about rosters now, it's a disgrace what HC seems to be involved with and if any crime was committed I want those players tarred and feathered and criminal charges incoming.

Gentlemen, I know it's the roster thread and I apologize but I have to say what I have to say.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

I can't even think about rosters now, it's a disgrace what HC seems to be involved with and if any crime was committed I want those players tarred and feathered and criminal charges incoming.

Gentlemen, I know it's the roster thread and I apologize but I have to say what I have to say.

There are plenty of other avenues to vent your frustration. This thread isn't that.

No need to punish the '03's onward for something they didn't do.

 

[jj cale]

There are plenty of other avenues to vent your frustration. This thread isn't that.

No need to punish the '03's onward for something they didn't do.

i'm just pissed but you're right, it should only be about the rosters here, if they will even be needed that is.

I want answers and accountability right now that's all.

 

[tunnelvision]

D's
Oleg Zellweger
Ethan Del Mastro
Kevin Korchinski

Korchinski a lock already? As a Jackets fan I'd like to believe Mateychuk will have as good shot as Korchinski at making the team since he was more noticeable of the two at Team Canada's summer camp. I'm aware Korchinski had better NHL camp.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Korchinski a lock already? As a Jackets fan I'd like to believe Mateychuk will have as good shot as Korchinski at making the team since he was more noticeable of the two at Team Canada's summer camp. I'm aware Korchinski had better NHL camp.

I believe he is a lock - He looked great at camp and I honestly believe his defensive game has looked much better over last year. I thought Chicago should have given him 9 games.

Mateychuk isn’t a lock in my view but he is one of the favourites to be in the top-6 for sure. Nonetheless, Canada should have a stout top-6 defence this year.

 

[Tutu to]

Do people really think that Canada wont have a team or that TSN is dropping the tournament?

I think you guys vastly overestimate how much this affects the tournament or even Hockey Canada.

 

[Uncle Rotter]

Having a “hush fund” to keep girls quiet

Are you referring to the contingency fund that was used to pay the victims of Graham James?

 

[Rob]

Single tickets not on sale yet. Halifax May already be sold out. Anyone see tickets for sale on the secondary market yet? Nothing on StubHub.

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

I can't even think about rosters now, it's a disgrace what HC seems to be involved with and if any crime was committed I want those players tarred and feathered and criminal charges incoming.

Gentlemen, I know it's the roster thread and I apologize but I have to say what I have to say.

You have full right to say what you want so don't appologize nothing.
I get that it is freaking hard / difficult to even considet Canada's U20 WJC roster is this situation.
But without any official announcement for IIHF i don't believe at all on that Canad gets banned for IIHF.

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

To be fair, the same can be said for the Russian players. They had no part in what their government did yet no one had a problem banning them.

I’m Canadian but if russia was suspended, i think Canada should be too

Yes rules should be the same and fair for all participants.
But so long when IIHF isn't officially announced any sanctions for Hockey Canada
i don't see Canada getting kicked out of upcoming U20 WJC's or any international hockey.

Russia's IIHF ban was political not sport related and it was done for much more serious things.
Yes all those idiots who have been involved that sickening shit in Hockey Canada
should be arrested and charged of their illegal actions.

But don't make 2003 born U20 national team players paying for mistakes what management has done.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

Ian cole with another dagger... What a prick

Go blame the Amerks for him.

 

[jj cale]

Go blame the Amerks for him.

It's likely just beginning for them but I hope not, sad. it's a culture problem with the sport, or many sports in general.

 

[Czechboy]

Go blame the Amerks for him.

Deleted.. apologies... Thanks

 

[wetcoast]

Can anyone lay out the procedures for the dissolution of a national organization and formation of a new one?

Then provide the advantages and disadvantages. Please provide new mechanisms for review and improvements of the organization as well, such funding, new programs, and rules for the board of directors.

They don't need to, it's really just a talking point at best or virtue signaling at worst.

What is needed is an actual plan for moving forward in a positive progressive matter and just stop the sideshow of a witch hunt.

Sadly I came to this this mildly dreading that it might not be about the actual roster and given the times that dread was real.

I'm actully really excited about watching the 2023 WJHC and can't wait for them to start.

 

[NewEraGM]

But don't make 2003 born U20 national team players paying for mistakes what management has done.

i agree but Russian players are paying for the mistakes of their government…not fair for those Russian players either in my opinion.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think any should be suspended, but given Russia was I also think Canada should be too.

 

[SOLR]

I disagree. Having a “hush fund” to keep girls quiet is passed the line of what should be acceptable. It’s actually despicable. Sure, it’s not exactly the same thing and you can argue that one is worse than the other (although I’d argue Im they are both passed the point where it should matter).

If anything, the Russian players had nothing to do with the actions of their government, while for Canada, it may not be current WJC players, it’s former players, so it’s much closer and it’s part of hockey culture that even current players are a part of

Give your head a shake, buddy. Proportionality. Hockey Canada is pretty bad, but comparing a "bro-code" hockey organization to a murderous system (150k-200k deaths and counting, this year) that is quickly raising its status as large-scale evil-doers (not 2 generations ago, now) is absolutely ridiculous. Anything connected to the Russian state is the enemy of your way of life, if that's not enough for you, not sure what is (you can chat about hockey because guys like me defend dumbass like you).

Russian hockey players are financed by the same oligarchs who are at the very base of Putin's power, it's not like they are saints. They could/should refuse to play if they wanted a change... the greatest enemy of a regime like Putin's is dissolving social order.

We need to fix hockey Canada, we know what is right and wrong. We know the difference...