2023 Tank Thread (Mod post Page 60)

[GunnarStahl]

Since it seems the Ducks will likely finish bottom 5 this year, I figured we should have a thread for discussing the implications of where the f***s will finish in the standings. As well as what factors could affect where they finish.

Tonight was interesting as all bottom 5 teams earned 2 points sans the Ducks and the Hawks.

Hey Folks,

Want to clear some of the air here, Tank talk is not an issue, please talk tank to your heart’s content here, totally understand how critical it is for that Future Potential Top pick. The issue is posting in the GDT, like you want the team to lose or make posts that you are angry they are winning or won the game, or bashing the team for not tanking.

The main reason is, to respect your fellow members. The GDT is about discussion of the game on a live basis and then post game discussion and opinions. A lot of fans are not rooting for the team to lose, and everyone has their views and opinions towards tanking, and may not want to discuss tanking in the GDT

If you guys have any concerns, feel free to PM me or another mod, and would be happy to explain more in detail.

Thanks!

Leo

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[robbieboy3686]

Columbus being so embarrassed tonight, they might actually show up v us tomorrow

 

[AngelDuck]

Columbus being so embarrassed tonight, they might actually show up v us tomorrow

Wouldn’t count on it. They’re awful. So depleted with injuries. The good news is teams like the Canucks and Coyotes are kinda running away from us

 

[robbieboy3686]

Wouldn’t count on it. They’re awful. So depleted with injuries. The good news is teams like the Canucks and Coyotes are kinda running away from us

I don’t care who wins in that coyotes game tonight as long as we get ot

 

[Terry Yake]

Columbus being so embarrassed tonight, they might actually show up v us tomorrow

not a chance. they are just downright awful. you know it's bad when gudbranson is your #1 dman

 

[Static]

Arizona wins, now nine points ahead. Seems uncatchable

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

Arizona wins again. They’ve matched Vancouver with 63 points and the gap is 9. At this point, I think I can say with confidence that even if the Ducks get hot, the worst possible position we’ll be in before the lottery draw is 6th at this rate (unless St Louis completely stops winning)

 

[Rasp]

Looks like a bottom 4 finish is very likely so at worst pick 6

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

Feels like an event if the Sharks actually get a point, which they are guaranteed at least one of tonight. Get the bonus point

EDIT: they did not.

 

[Terry Yake]

will gladly take a sharks point

unfortunately we've got a W coming our way tomorrow

 

[AngelDuck]

Tonight is pretty much lose to keep the dream of finishing dead last alive for another couple weeks

 

[Dryish]

I don't really care whether or not we finish first because it's probably quite unlikely at this point to begin with, plus the lottery is a lottery so anybody might win.

But boy would I like us to finish as the second last team. I'd so much rather drop to 4 at the most than drop outside of the top 4. Especially when Michkov might get skipped on by quite a few teams.

 

[Rasp]

Picking 5th is still really good. Will Smith would compete for 1st overall in other years drafts.

Comparing USDP prospects draft years

Smith 2 PPG
Cooley 1.47 PPG
Beniers 0.93 PPG (D-2) 1 PPG in draft year in NCAA
Hughes 2.2 PPG

The only reason there isnt much talk about him is because this year is so stacked that he is being overlooked by most people.

I could even see him going before Michkov if a team needs a C

 

[Kalv]

Smith is on par with Carlsson IMO but a slight notch below Fantili. I’m very high on Will Smith

Picking 5th is still really good. Will Smith would compete for 1st overall in other years drafts.

Comparing USDP prospects draft years

Smith 2 PPG
Cooley 1.47 PPG
Beniers 0.93 PPG
Hughes 2.2 PPG

The only reason there isnt much talk about him is because this year is so stacked that he is being overlooked by most people.

I could even see him going before Michkov if a team needs a C

Beniers was in NCAA in his D-1. You might be referencing to his D-2.
Not that it changes your point tho.

But also I'd like to point our that I think Pasta was something around 1.5 in USDP – points not always tell the story. I don't know much about Smith myself tho.

 

[Rasp]

Beniers was in NCAA in his D-1. You might be referencing to his D-2.
Not that it changes your point tho.

But also I'd like to point our that I think Pasta was something around 1.5 in USDP – points not always tell the story. I don't know much about Smith myself tho.

Yep you are correct I put in his D-2 stats. Updated my post to reflect it.

I still think comparing the top USA C prospects is a valid comparison. Smith is really good.

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

I don't really care whether or not we finish first because it's probably quite unlikely at this point to begin with, plus the lottery is a lottery so anybody might win.

But boy would I like us to finish as the second last team. I'd so much rather drop to 4 at the most than drop outside of the top 4. Especially when Michkov might get skipped on by quite a few teams.

Ducks are certainty not finishing first.

 

[Leonardo87]

San Jose and Columbus are in free fall. Blackhawks and Anaheim still putting up a fight, I think we have a shot at Bottom 3. Would guarantee us a Top 5 pick.

Just don’t see us falling below the Sharks and Blue Jackets, they are tanking like there is no tomorrow.

 

[Kalv]

San Jose and Columbus are in free fall. Blackhawks and Anaheim still putting up a fight, I think we have a shot at Bottom 3. Would guarantee us a Top 5 pick.

Just don’t see us falling below the Sharks and Blue Jackets, they are tanking like there is no tomorrow.

Blackhawks must be a paper tiger right now. How are they earning points with this lineup? I don't believe they will get much more

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[Leonardo87]

Blackhawks must be a paper tiger right now. How are they earning points with this lineup? I don't believe they will get much more

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Yeah I dunno. They even beat Boston.

 

[Rasp]

Blackhawks gutted their team for peanuts to tank but somehow started winning more games haha

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Sharks blew yet another 3rd period lead? God damn they are pathetic.

 

[GreatBear]

Sharks blew yet another 3rd period lead? God damn they are pathetic.

At least this time it was only a one goal lead.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Hate rooting for my team to lose.. But tonight a loss would do wonders for the tank..

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

San Jose and Columbus are in free fall. Blackhawks and Anaheim still putting up a fight, I think we have a shot at Bottom 3. Would guarantee us a Top 5 pick.

Just don’t see us falling below the Sharks and Blue Jackets, they are tanking like there is no tomorrow.

I think Karlsson alone is keeping them from free fall. They’ve got one pinky still on the ledge

 

[Kalv]

Yeah I dunno. They even beat Boston.

I was shocked when I saw the score this morning Boston might've went on a boozer last night

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Beniers was in NCAA in his D-1. You might be referencing to his D-2.
Not that it changes your point tho.

But also I'd like to point our that I think Pasta was something around 1.5 in USDP – points not always tell the story. I don't know much about Smith myself tho.

I'm confused. Isn't D+0 (draft year) imply that season's production is for the draft? For example, Beniers was drafted in the 2021 draft, then his 2020-21 season is his draft year (D+0 season).

Here's how I see it:

Beniers​

2019-20 (D-1): USDP = 0.93 ppg and USHL = 1.00 ppg​

2020-21 (D+0): NCAA = 1.00 ppg <---- Drafted​

2021-22 (D+1): NCAA = 1.16 ppg​

2022-23 (D+2): NHL = 0.73 ppg​

Another way I interpret it is the NHL rights to CHL players. The NHL team has two years to sign their players when they are drafted or they go back into the draft. We can use another 2021 prospect as an example with LW Tschigerl, a Ducks 5th round pick. CapFriendly shares that Tschigerl must be signed by Jun 1, 2023, which would mark two years from his draft date, or D+2 season. We can work backwards.

2022-23 (D+2)​

2021-22 (D+1)​

2020-21 (D+0)​

If I'm wrong, then I don't mind changing my logic.