2023 Tank Thread (Mod post Page 60)

[GunnarStahl]

Since it seems the Ducks will likely finish bottom 5 this year, I figured we should have a thread for discussing the implications of where the f***s will finish in the standings. As well as what factors could affect where they finish.

Tonight was interesting as all bottom 5 teams earned 2 points sans the Ducks and the Hawks.

Hey Folks,

Want to clear some of the air here, Tank talk is not an issue, please talk tank to your heart’s content here, totally understand how critical it is for that Future Potential Top pick. The issue is posting in the GDT, like you want the team to lose or make posts that you are angry they are winning or won the game, or bashing the team for not tanking.

The main reason is, to respect your fellow members. The GDT is about discussion of the game on a live basis and then post game discussion and opinions. A lot of fans are not rooting for the team to lose, and everyone has their views and opinions towards tanking, and may not want to discuss tanking in the GDT

If you guys have any concerns, feel free to PM me or another mod, and would be happy to explain more in detail.

Thanks!

Leo

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[goonsaredumb]

2 1sts and a 2nd used for a shutdown line.

so? most late 1st and most 2nd rounders don't even play in the league and a shutdown line is extremely important what's the problem?

 

[tomd]

so? most late 1st and most 2nd rounders don't even play in the league and a shutdown line is extremely important what's the problem?

no problem...I'm just resetting my sights accordingly.

 

[Kalv]

yeah, finishing last is absolutely ideal but i don't see it happening with how bad chicago will be post TDL and how downright awful CBJ is. and i'm also not putting any hope in our lottery luck because no such thing exists for this franchise

I aggree with you on CBJ and CHI, I wouldn't categorize us so badly with lottery luck but I'll also add that some of the teams above us have a lot of potential to fall behind us eventually.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Odd. I don't think Gaucher possesses the speed and skating that Lundy possesses. Anaheim has assigned a skating coach for Gaucher. Also, I think Lundy's defensive acumen might be at a higher level than Gaucher's, considering Lundy was playing and learning to play defense at age 16 in the SHL, a top men's league. Plus four plus seasons in the NHL for experience.

Anyhow, Lundy is in the NHL and Gaucher has yet made the jump to the pro side. If Gaucher can create competition for Lundy, then that's great for the org. But right now, I see Gaucher as a slightly better or equal player to Groulx.

Fair sir fair

 

[cheesymc]

Is there any rule that would restrict us from icing two goalies at once? I would like us to do that or ice only forwards the rest of the season. Or having our players play out of there possession for “development.” I would like some blatant tanking strategy please.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

so? most late 1st and most 2nd rounders don't even play in the league and a shutdown line is extremely important what's the problem?

Agreed.

I think Lundy has top-6 qualities, but since we have Z and McTavish at center, then we have the luxury of having Lundy at 3c. Lundy has proven that if he's given offensive wingers, then his line produces. Two years ago, Comtois-Lundy-Rakell was beyond fire. Lundy's first game back from injury, Rico-Lundy-Terry were dangerously good.

Lundy's return and having McTavish means we get to shield Zegras so he can get weaker competition to poach and score often.

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

Last notable before the break: Columbus gets a point out of a 4-3 OT loss to Washington. Ducks will restart 3 points ahead of both the Jackets and Hawks for last place (although the Ducks now have a game in hand on Columbus [51] compared to the two games in hand Chicago [48] has on us)

 

[Ducks DVM]

Is there any rule that would restrict us from icing two goalies at once? I would like us to do that or ice only forwards the rest of the season. Or having our players play out of there possession for “development.” I would like some blatant tanking strategy please.

That’d be rule 5.3.

 

[Deuce22]

2 1sts and a 2nd used for a shutdown line.

Because every first and second becomes a top sixer.

 

[tomd]

Because every first and second becomes a top sixer.

No...because most top 6F and top 4D come from the 1st and 2nd rounds. Statistics bear that out. So if you are drafting 4th line checking types in the 1st and 2nd rounds you are more than likely not going to be drafting future stars later in the draft. Are there exceptions? yes. are they rare? yes.

 

[Deuce22]

No...because most top 6F and top 4D come from the 1st and 2nd rounds. Statistics bear that out. So if you are drafting 4th line checking types in the 1st and 2nd rounds you are more than likely not going to be drafting future stars later in the draft. Are there exceptions? yes. are they rare? yes.

Of course. But acting like finding a good bottom sixer or third pairing D in the late first or second is a fail is ridiculous.

 

[tomd]

Of course. But acting like finding a good bottom sixer or third pairing D in the late first or second is a fail is ridiculous.

2nd round? fine.

inside the top 25? It's a fail for a team starved for offensive talent...especially when there were better options available.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

2nd round? fine.

inside the top 25? It's a fail for a team starved for offensive talent...especially when there were better options available.

Statistics show that it's the top-10 that will bear most of the top-6/top-4 options. There's a big drop off in talent after the top-3 and top-10 in sports were drafts have 6 or more rounds like hockey, football, and baseball.

A top-10 pick isn't equal to a pick in the 20's.

Everything becomes a gamble around the 15th pick onwards. Also, it depends on the draft output as some drafts aren't so deep as others.

We've been fortunate with defensive late picks. We boasted an all drafted blue line in the playoffs with only one top-10 pick in Lindholm. Unfortunately, we suck at scouting forwards beyond the top-10. I think Palms, Rakell, Kase, and Terry are our only successes.

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

Vancouver earns a loser point with a 5-4 overtime loss in New Jersey and Arizona gets a massive win with a 3-2 victory over Minnesota to break the brief points deadlock and move two ahead.

 

[Terry Yake]

all these loser points are going to screw them out of a top 4 pick

 

[Hockey Duckie]

all these loser points are going to screw them out of a top 4 pick

Blame Eakins for coaching the team up as well as instilling within them to never give up?

 

[duckaroosky]

McTavish is part of the tank crew?

 

[Kalv]

McTavish is part of the tank crew?

For the watch tank!

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

McTavish is part of the tank crew?

That's funny.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Praying for a loss tonight…. Y’all can hate that idea or like that idea but that’s where I’m at… this seasons a wash for me I wouldn’t mind losing every game from here on out as long as it’s 4-3,6-5 type of losses

Entertaining losses

 

[Terry Yake]

Praying for a loss tonight…. Y’all can hate that idea or like that idea but that’s where I’m at… this seasons a wash for me I wouldn’t mind losing every game from here on out as long as it’s 4-3,6-5 type of losses

Entertaining losses

yeah, there's no point winning games that do nothing for this team playoff-wise, this season is a wash and the only thing that matters is securing a top 4 pick

close losses+the kids playing well is all i ask for

 

[lwvs84]

Praying for a loss tonight…. Y’all can hate that idea or like that idea but that’s where I’m at… this seasons a wash for me I wouldn’t mind losing every game from here on out as long as it’s 4-3,6-5 type of losses

Entertaining losses

I keep saying this until the games start... then I cheer every time the Ducks score a goal (or rather get disappointed when they blow a golden chance).

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

I keep saying this until the games start... then I cheer every time the Ducks score a goal (or rather get disappointed when they blow a golden chance).

This is basically my M.O. I can’t bring myself to ultimately root for this team to lose… but I can openly root for everyone else to win

 

[lwvs84]

This is basically my M.O. I can’t bring myself to ultimately root for this team to lose… but I can openly root for everyone else to win

Yup, I keep score watching the other bottom teams and hoping they win. Ideally, Ducks improve... other bottom teams just improve more (this season).

 

[Son of Gib]

Big game tonight! Let's get that juicy L!