Transfer: 2023 Summer Transfer Window - Open Window Edition

[Evilo]

I find it incredibly funny.

I do not know if it has an impact or not, but it is HILARIOUS that he is trying.

I imagine Trudeau saying something like that about McDavid wanting to leave Canada or something and I burst out laughing. It is incredibly ridiculous that he would even say that.

Macron knows no shame.

 

[S E P H]

Nope, but I don't really care what he does for a paycheck as long as he stays a beast for the NT...up to a goal contribution every 81 min., and he's very active away from the ball; both defensively and offensively.

I was just commenting on your armchair body-posture-analysis of his drive. Just because a player doesn't beat their chest doesn't mean they don't care. Kai's not a very loud kinda guy, but that doesn't make him apathetic.



Oh Kai's definitely been checked out since everything went to s***, but again him not being a screamer like Kahn was doesn't make him lazy.

Football is a team game and not everything is his fault, but where has this new generation got Deutschland? A group stage, a round of 16, and a group stage, Germany should be making the quarter or semi-final at the bare minimum IMHO.

You know, you are probably right that I might put too much stock in body language, but I don't care about a player having to be Nathan MacKinnon-level aggressiveness cussing out teams and coaches when the team is losing. However, I suggest there is some truth in body language science, especially when it comes to bad periods of play or losing the ball. Are you at least going to try and do something back or are you going to give up and simply get back into position?

Odegaard is a perfect example of what I mean here. He's one of those quiet Scandinavian types where there were many times that he lost the ball, but instead of just standing there or giving up, he would run to a position where he would be able to make a move to get the ball back somewhere in the future. I don't think Havertz is a truly bad defensive player, my observations are when he has the ball and when he loses it foremost. He comes across as being too useless in matches, even if he's being played out of position. This makes this rumour even more puzzling, Arsenal doesn't really need a shadow striker #10, we need a backup or competition striker to push Jesus and Kai hasn't really shown that ability.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Chelsea are drunk on Mount’s price. he’s got a year left. Shouldn’t be more than 30 much less rejecting 40.

Hopefully United move on quickly.

Agreed. The ask for Mount is insane all things considered

 

[Jussi]

I mean that’s what 10mil a player? Henderson should get 20-30, McTom should get 20-30. Elanga should be 15-20 I mean that’s 55-80 right there already.

Eh...

 

[King 88]

Translation: Emmanuel #Macron assures that he "will try to push" for Kylian Mbappé to stay at PSG. (BFMTV)

Imagine being this kind of two-bit, circus club.

Soon Sarkozy calls his qatar buddies for help. Shame Chirac is dead sure he could helped to keep Mbappe in France somehow

 

[Power Man]

Man I forgot Chirac passed away

Guignols de l'Info legend.

 

[Chimaera]

He's worth the effort because he puts the ball in the back of the net.

Lot of clubs would do a lot more to placate him.

 

[East Coast Bias]

I mean that’s what 10mil a player? Henderson should get 20-30, McTom should get 20-30. Elanga should be 15-20 I mean that’s 55-80 right there already.

They won’t get anything close to those bc they always pay scrubs huge wages. McTominay makes 65k a week. Henderson is at 100k.

Neither are starters on any competitor.

 

[KJS14]

This is why all the London “rivalries” suck

Why? Because Chelsea and Arsenal are willing to do business with each other? I mean I'd consider them "rivals" in the sense that they are a top 6 team, but they aren't much bigger rivals to us than the other top 6 teams in my mind.

Arsenal vs Spurs is an actual rivalry.

 

[cgf]

Football is a team game and not everything is his fault, but where has this new generation got Deutschland? A group stage, a round of 16, and a group stage, Germany should be making the quarter or semi-final at the bare minimum IMHO.

You know, you are probably right that I might put too much stock in body language, but I don't care about a player having to be Nathan MacKinnon-level aggressiveness cussing out teams and coaches when the team is losing. However, I suggest there is some truth in body language science, especially when it comes to bad periods of play or losing the ball. Are you at least going to try and do something back or are you going to give up and simply get back into position?

Odegaard is a perfect example of what I mean here. He's one of those quiet Scandinavian types where there were many times that he lost the ball, but instead of just standing there or giving up, he would run to a position where he would be able to make a move to get the ball back somewhere in the future. I don't think Havertz is a truly bad defensive player, my observations are when he has the ball and when he loses it foremost. He comes across as being too useless in matches, even if he's being played out of position. This makes this rumour even more puzzling, Arsenal doesn't really need a shadow striker #10, we need a backup or competition striker to push Jesus and Kai hasn't really shown that ability.

It’s gotten us a u21 & u17 title in the past two years. Which isn’t bad considering that Kai and Schlotterbeck are just a couple months too old to be eligible for this summer’s U21s…and they are oldies compared to the likes of:

FW: Moukoko ('04), Brunner ('06), Adeyemi ('02), Weiper ('05), Ramsak ('06), Schade ('01);
AM: Musiala ('03), Wirtz ('03), Wanner ('05), Bischof ('05), Raebiger ('05), Darvich ('06), Ibrahimovic ('05), Ulrich ('05), B.Dardai ('06);
DM: Aseko ('05), Ouedraogo ('06), di Benedetto ('05), Martel ('02), Breithaupt ('02), Stiller ('01), Krauß ('01);
FB: Netz ('03), Kabar ('06), Knauff ('02), Rothe ('04), Moreira ('06), Ullrich ('04), Castrop ('03), Bulut ('06);
CB: Bella Kotchap ('01), Thiaw ('01), M.Dardai ('02), Buchmann ('05), Arrey-Mbi ('03), Morgalla ('04), Gechter ('04), Collins ('04);
GK: Atubolu ('02), Urbig ('03), Seimen ('05), Schmitt ('06)
etc.

Who knows what the future will bring and Kai has played the most of the new wave...but he's only been a bit player in those disappointing 2018-2022 results, so it's odd to blame him for them


PS there is zero evidence for body language experts being any more insightful than horoscopes. Generally people just see whatever supports their pre-conceptions.

 

[al secord]

Dang I really love this for the Magpies.

 

[cgf]

He's worth the effort because he puts the ball in the back of the net.

Lot of clubs would do a lot more to placate him.

Seriously. Clubs do a lot more for significantly worse players.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

@Savant

 

[The Abusement Park]

They won’t get anything close to those bc they always pay scrubs huge wages. McTominay makes 65k a week. Henderson is at 100k.

Neither are starters on any competitor.

I mean Nottingham is rumored
to be in on Henderson for 25mil.

McTominay obviously isn’t a midfielder for a team with aspiration, but would be fine in a mid/lower table team.

Elanga is still only 21. I don’t think 15mil for him is that wild, I mean Garner went for what, 10? He’d be a fine winger for a lower level team.

 

[Chimaera]

Seriously. Clubs do a lot more for significantly worse players.

Yep. Unfortunately, it's where sports are now. If PSG won't do it, there's 5-6 other clubs who would happily do whatever is asked.

 

[bluesfan94]

I'd pay some amount for Havertz but nowhere near 75M.

New rumor I saw is that Chelsea is trying to figure out how to buy Havertz for 5M more than Arsenal offers

 

[Savant]

@Savant

So Palhinha or Young Palhinha

 

[les Habs]

If there's one thing that will never fail to trigger me, it's grownass adults using grade school arguments like "how was i supposed to know about that" or "that's not literally what i said" etc.

Well what someone literally says is important. That said, I think the real issue here is if he went to social media himself first why did he do that? If not, how did the media get a hold of it? He’s really doing nothing wrong otherwise and actually giving PSG plenty of notice.

Roma and Milan looking at Scamacca. He’s been injured and never really settled, but I like him. This is just more David Moyes transfer genius, getting in players that need to be around the ball only to hoof it 80 yards at them, defend for the whole match, and then act surprised when they don’t produce and aren’t happy.

If Michail Antonio is first choice next season I’ll scream.

One of the players even publicly made a comment about the issue with Scamacca was that he wasn’t being used right. Forget who it was, but it was just a couple of weeks back.

I recall seeing something about him not wanting to leave Spain.

Gerrard apparently wants Mane and Coutinho for his new Saudi side.

With regards to Coutinho, Villa supporters can now say it in unison with Barca supporters. ”Thank you Steven Gerrard.”

My only question is where was all this Saudi interest when were selling

I wouldn't pay anything more than 50M for Havertz (same fee we paid for Jesus). And I'd rather focus funds on Caicedo and a fullback after we finalize Rice. If we still have 50M for Havertz after that, then pull the trigger.

Exactly how much does Arsenal supposedly have to spend?

I think this year transfer window will be crazy...

That’s the trend.

@Savant

Really hate this time of the transfer window. Hopefully things clear up in the next two weeks. We could have already had Fresneda, Fabrizio Diaz, Amrabat and that Faye kid for less than 60 million. I suppose if they‘re indeed making progress on Vitor Roque I shouldn’t complain.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Why? Because Chelsea and Arsenal are willing to do business with each other? I mean I'd consider them "rivals" in the sense that they are a top 6 team, but they aren't much bigger rivals to us than the other top 6 teams in my mind.

Arsenal vs Spurs is an actual rivalry.

We also hate Spurs more than we hate Arsenal, at this point. There's been way more to that rivalry recently (Battle of the Bridge, some gritty games while Conte was at Chelsea, the game in the fall while Conte was at Spurs).

 

[KJS14]

Exactly how much does Arsenal supposedly have to spend?

Good question. I haven't seen anything credible reported, but some rumors said around 150M + player sales. And I would think the player sales will probably bring in ~100M (Xhaka 15M, Tierney 30M+, Balogun 40M+, Pepe free, and maybe a few others).

 

[KJS14]

We also hate Spurs more than we hate Arsenal, at this point. There's been way more to that rivalry recently (Battle of the Bridge, some gritty games while Conte was at Chelsea, the game in the fall while Conte was at Spurs).

Yeah, aside from targeting a few of the same players recently, there hasn't been much to the rivalry. I'd say that I moreso hated certain Chelsea players (e.g. Diego Costa) in the past that made the games feel more like a rivalry, but that's it.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

We also hate Spurs more than we hate Arsenal, at this point. There's been way more to that rivalry recently (Battle of the Bridge, some gritty games while Conte was at Chelsea, the game in the fall while Conte was at Spurs).

West Ham hate us the most too (atleast among teams in the PL).

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Really hate this time of the transfer window. Hopefully things clear up in the next two weeks. We could have already had Fresneda, Fabrizio Diaz, Amrabat and that Faye kid for less than 60 million. I suppose if they‘re indeed making progress on Vitor Roque I shouldn’t complain.

Yeah, I'd rather not buy a bunch of Arthurs and Douglas'. I hope Deco isnt just a Brasil merchant and has a plan-ondo.

 

[Power Man]

*Activates Vader voice*



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Evilo]

I don't blame Mbappe for wanting out. He's 25 and has one CL final (that he could have won if he hadn't mssed up, but that's another story).
He's done more in two WC than in the last 5 CLs in terms of accolades.
I'd move if I were him. And I would NOT sign a new contract (as an L1 fan, it pains me to say it) unless PSG get a great year and performs like PSG should.
Nagelsmann (still not signed though), Lee, Skriniar, Ugarte and Ndour is a solid window so far, especially since they're closing in on Bernardo and other interesting targets, including a very good 9 who will help Mbappe tremendously.
If I were him, I'd either not sign or sign a one year extension with a promise to be sold next summer for cheaper (like a clause) if I want to.