Buffalo Bills 2023 Summer - Post-Draft and Pre-Camp Talk

[ValJamesDuex]

Beane says If they did not get Kincaid they would of traded down (had a couple offers for 27), he almost traded up with the Giants as well

 

[SundherDome]

What’s your confidence level in the Offensive Coordinator to be able to play call to help become the next Kelce?

Dorsey had Winslow and Shockey as his TE's so... Hopefully high?

 

[Rowley Birkin]

After all the TE talk... That barely involved Kincaid!

Not sure what to think. I kinda like it but don't see Kincaid having the blocking ability to take full advantage of rolling 2TE sets with Knox.

Still haven't seen what we gave up either.

If we find a way to get Sanders or Simpson I'll be extremely intrigued about the future - both sides of the ball.

 

[Husko]

Kincaid was, regardless of position, the best ball catcher available at this point of the draft.

Well put. Anyone that wanted a receiver should be thrilled. If you're worried about the rate of TEs disappointing in the first, just tell yourself we got the second best slot receiver in the draft.

 

[Zman5778]

My biggest issue is trading up for the deepest position of the draft. The TE position is stocked with high upside prospects likely through the first 3 rounds.

I hated it when we did for Watkins, I hate it now.

Add in the volatility in predicting TE success and I find myself in a grumpy place

Kincaid is/was the best pass catcher among TEs. Period. And that's what we're getting him for -- to catch passes.

 

[OkimLom]

He doesn't need to be Kelce, he just needs to be Cole Beasley.

It’s more of a criticism on the Bills offense than Kincaid himself. I just have no confidence in this team attacking the middle of field and utilizing him correctly. There’s no creativity on the offensive side of the ball.

 

[Zman5778]

After all the TE talk... That barely involved Kincaid!

Not sure what to think. I kinda like it but don't see Kincaid having the blocking ability to take full advantage of rolling 2TE sets with Knox.

Still haven't seen what we gave up either.

If we find a way to get Sanders or Simpson I'll be extremely intrigued about the future - both sides of the ball.

We gave up a 4th to move up 2 spots.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

I had the volume down on the tv what did espn/nfl say about Kincaid btw?

 

[Zman5778]

I had the volume down on the tv what did espn/nfl say about Kincaid ?

Best pass-catching TE.....might even have the best hands in the entire draft. Blocking needs work....lots of work. He'll be great working the middle of the field.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Beane says Kincaid has elite hands, and 5 picks before he thought he would be gone by 22, they knew the Cowboys had a lot of love for him

 

[Der Jaeger]

It's going to be a matchup nightmare. Stack the box, then Knox or Kincaid get a LB. Drop the safety, Diggs or Davis get more space. Back off the line? Cool, Knox and Kincaid can block for Cook/Harris.

This scenario (or situation, whichever JB phrase you like) is exactly why you play 12 personnel. It becomes a dilemma for defense that is hard to solve without having better personnel.

I don’t think the big slot description is accurate. The Gronkowski-Hernandez duo is more accurate. Kinkaid can do a lot, including split out in the X position.

If Kinkaid can produce as a rookie, defenses are in trouble.

 

[Sound_n_Fury]

Dalton Kincaid, TE, Utah | NFL Draft Scouting Report

Utah TE Dalton Kincaid has earned national attention as one of the best in the class, and his scouting report reveals why he's held in high acclaim.

www.profootballnetwork.com

Is there a better pass catcher at the tight end position in the 2023 NFL Draft than Kincaid? If there is, I’m yet to study them in this cycle, and we’ve been working on scouting reports since the Monday after last year’s draft. There are wide receivers in this class, in college football, and in the NFL that could learn a thing or two about corralling a catch from the Utah tight end.

Starting his scouting report anywhere other than what Kincaid brings to the table as a receiver would be malpractice, an injustice, and a waste of an opportunity to study greatness. If the ball is even marginally in the vicinity of the Utah tight end, there’s a legitimate chance that he’s going to be the one coming down with it.

Kincaid boasts pure pass-catching paws, with a strong grip that ensures that he doesn’t drop or fumble the ball when it’s in his control. That vice-like grip exists at the end of decently long arms that ensure Kincaid can extend and pluck the ball away from his frame with devastating regularity.


The Utah TE is more than happy to compete at the catch point, safe in the knowledge that his combination of pass-catching technique and strong hands means 50:50 balls aren’t really that. Impressive body control that allows him to contort to the ball at any level also assists Kincaid in that ability. From the highest catch point to the lowest turf ball, you can trust him to reel it in.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Kincaid was, regardless of position, the best ball catcher available at this point of the draft.

As a prospect, he may be the best ball catcher in this draft

 

[ValJamesDuex]

The Draft Network

TDN

thedraftnetwork.com

 

[Husko]

This scenario (or situation, whichever JB phrase you like) is exactly why you play 12 personnel. It becomes a dilemma for defense that is hard to solve without having better personnel.

I don’t think the big slot description is accurate. The Gronkowski-Hernandez duo is more accurate. Kinkaid can do a lot, including split out in the X position.

If Kinkaid can produce as a rookie, defenses are in trouble.

I don't know how much genuine 12 they can play; Kincaid's blocking is more of that of a power slot than an actual TE. But just having a power slot is a refreshing update on all the little guys we've had at slot WR lately.

 

[SundherDome]

This scenario (or situation, whichever JB phrase you like) is exactly why you play 12 personnel. It becomes a dilemma for defense that is hard to solve without having better personnel.

I don’t think the big slot description is accurate. The Gronkowski-Hernandez duo is more accurate. Kinkaid can do a lot, including split out in the X position.

If Kinkaid can produce as a rookie, defenses are in trouble.

Hoping that he doesn't pick up Hernandez's off the field stuff

I don't know how much genuine 12 they can play; Kincaid's blocking is more of that of a power slot than an actual TE. But just having a power slot is a refreshing update on all the little guys we've had at slot WR lately.

Let him chip or get to a LB level and let the hogs eat the biggins

 

[Dirty Dog]

I haven’t been this happy with a bills draft pick in years. Knox is a great TE and a core piece. Kincaid can be an elite weapon in this league with Knox on the field.

I’ve been banging this drum for awhile, but you just weren’t getting day 1 production for a WR in this offense that you wouldn’t get from a different WR we already have. Kincaid will be be a weapon THIS year.

Between him and Harty, we have a much better (and more dynamic and versatile) Beasley and John brown.

Now add Hynes as a gadget player instead of McKenzie. Shakir and Sheffield as better depth. And more cook. You have a LOT more weapons this year

 

[Fezzy126]

Kincaid is/was the best pass catcher among TEs. Period. And that's what we're getting him for -- to catch passes.

Sorry man, but I feel like this is some serious revisionist history at work. He was the 4th TE on our poll, and he was behind two other WRs that are still available. If he was such an amazing receiving threat then more people would have been buzzing about him predraft.

If you wanna just be positive that's fine, I'll get there myself eventually, but I feel like he got overdrafted based on an amazing game against a shitty USC defense.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Matt Harmon and @Husko got it

 

[Zman5778]

I don't know how much genuine 12 they can play; Kincaid's blocking is more of that of a power slot than an actual TE. But just having a power slot is a refreshing update on all the little guys we've had at slot WR lately.

I don't think we really will play Kincaid much in-line for a while. Maybe once he gets stronger we can go with a true 12, but I don't see that this year.

Now I want to see us go out and get the best blocking TE left on the market. Knox is willing, but he's not good

 

[Husko]

I don't think we really will play Kincaid much in-line for a while. Maybe once he gets stronger we can go with a true 12, but I don't see that this year.

Now I want to see us go out and get the best blocking TE left on the market. Knox is willing, but he's not good

Darnell Round 2, the position double dip

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Sorry man, but I feel like this is some serious revisionist history at work. He was the 4th TE on our poll, and he was behind two other WRs that are still available. If he was such an amazing receiving threat then more people would have been buzzing about him predraft.

If you wanna just be positive that's fine, I'll get there myself eventually, but I feel like he got overdrafted based on an amazing game against a shitty USC defense.

Beane said he thought he would be gone by 22, just sayin. Beane said if they did not get Kincaid they had a couple offers to trade down and would of done so. We certainly jumped Dallas to get him, their war room was in scramble mode after our pick.

 

[SundherDome]

That's a nice pick for the Saints

 

[Bendium]

I really like Kincaid, but not after giving Knox 4 years/52M. I get he’s more of a WR, but I just think there were better options, without giving up a valuable 4th that has a ton of options.

This gives you cost control at the position until Knox contract is up.

 

[Husko]

Sorry man, but I feel like this is some serious revisionist history at work. He was the 4th TE on our poll, and he was behind two other WRs that are still available. If he was such an amazing receiving threat then more people would have been buzzing about him predraft.

If you wanna just be positive that's fine, I'll get there myself eventually, but I feel like he got overdrafted based on an amazing game against a shitty USC defense.

I think most of us voting assumed the Bills had no interest in the smaller, receiving type TEs. He was rated much higher in all the consensus boards.