Buffalo Bills 2023 Summer - Post-Draft and Pre-Camp Talk

[Zman5778]

Mel: "He's not a TE. He's a glorified WR."

 

[Sound_n_Fury]

The Athletic guys love the pick.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

@Husko is on the money, Mel calls him a glorified WR

 

[Chainshot]

Seems like they found a solution to not having the slot WRs available by taking someone who can fill that role.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

Whether this is a good pick or not depends entirely on whether Dorsey can maximize his value.

 

[kirby11]

Like the pick, kinda hate that we burned a 4th to move up 2 spots.

 

[SundherDome]

Well, we'll see how much they actually use him. I like Kincaid the player, I just don't know if this staff will utilize him in a way that makes sense.

Not a fan of moving up two spots for him. Even if Dallas took him, you could have taken Mayer...I don't think there's that big a gap between the two...

There is

 

[Cirris]

Makes sense to trade up now.

A lot of draft boards had Dallas picking Kincaid.

Jags might have even baited Giants using Bills calling them for a trade up.

 

[Chainshot]

The Athletic guys love the pick.

One of the NFL Network guys is also very pleased. *shrug*

 

[Husko]

I think of this as getting a bigger, faster Cole Beasley. Absolutely fascinating pick

 

[Sound_n_Fury]

There's your slot guy. 35 receptions from the slot last year, the most by any TE in the FBS.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Cowboys war room looks pissed

 

[Dirty Dog]

Love this. Perfect player to pair with Knox.

We needed a weapon

 

[ValJamesDuex]

There's your slot guy. 35 receptions from the slot last year, the most by any TE in the FBS.

16 catches on 16 targets vs USC, I believe Utah upset them ?

 

[Zman5778]

From Brugler:

STRENGTHS: Long, loose athlete with an adequate frame … uses lateral agility and flexible shoulders to quickly release off the line and accelerates into his routes … outstanding focus to isolate the football and catch the ball cleanly … comfortable adjusting mid-air and expanding his catch radius, showing unwavering trust in his ball skills … catches well in stride and stays balanced through contact (eight catches of 25-plus yards in 2022) … quickly collects himself to force overpursuit or make the first man miss (one of only three FBS tight ends with 16-plus forced missed tackles in 2022) … his dynamic speed cuts out of breaks creates interference/holding calls for the defense … willing and functional run blocker … shows the play speed to fit, hook and seal on cross-formation blocks … received positive character feedback from his coaches and was a member of Utah’s leadership council … had a career performance versus USC in 2022 with 16 receptions (on 16 targets) and 234 yards – his 16 catches was the most by an FBS player in 2022 … only Georgia’s Brock Bowers had more catches and receiving yards in 2022 among FBS tight ends.

WEAKNESSES: Slender frame for the position and doesn’t have desired bulk … must continue developing his core strength … doesn’t have a strong blocking base and finds himself upright and off-balance … reaches his landmarks, but his body angles are inconsistent when working up a level or pulling on perimeter runs … messy pass-pro mechanics, often overextending, dropping his eyes and losing control … penalized four times as a senior (three false starts, one holding) … will round off his routes and lean into breaks, telegraphing his intentions … missed time as a senior because of multiple injuries, including a shoulder (October 2022) and thoracic injury (November 2022), which also sidelined him for the Senior Bowl and combine

SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Utah, Kincaid was an F tight end in offensive coordinator Andy Ludwig’s offense. An FCS transfer, he became the main target in the Utes’ offense as a senior after Brant Kuithe was injured and led all FBS tight ends in receiving yards (74.2) and receptions (5.8) per game, just ahead of Notre Dame’s Michael Mayer in both categories (67.4 and 5.6, respectively). With his basketball background, Kincaid has fluid movement skills and flashes the short-area quickness to open stride and accelerate in and out of his breaks. He is a natural ball winner and shows confidence in his hands, doing most of his damage when catching the ball on the move (remarkable 35-to-4 touchdown-to-drop ratio in college). Overall, Kincaid is still developing his play strength and consistency as a blocker, but he is an above-average pass catcher with the burst, body control and ball skills to be a weapon in the slot. He projects as a playmaking “move” tight end in the NFL. GRADE: 1st Round (No. 20 overall)

 

[Fly Boy]

One of the best players in the draft.

 

[Zach716]

Good to see he’s versatile

 

[Kublakhan]

I'm into this pick but I see no one had TE in the poll lol

 

[Chainshot]

Cowboys war room looks pissed

Well that makes this even better.

 

[Husko]

I'm honestly shocked. The Bills met with a lot of tight ends, but they were all big in-line blocking types. I thought they might take one of those to move Knox to the slot more. Instead they take the best receiving tight end that's basically just a big slot receiver. Love it or hate it it's absolutely fascinating and completely revolutionizes our offense.

I'm into this pick but I see no one had TE in the poll lol

Count this as a slot WR

 

[kirby11]

Please, for the love of God, Beane...trade back in the second or third

 

[Der Jaeger]

Move TE (F). Gets Allen a reliable receiver in the middle. I love 12 personnel and the Bills are about to run a ton of it.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Lots of good WR is Rnd 2/3 imo

 

[SundherDome]

Please, for the love of God, Beane...trade back in the second or third

Nah, just trade Oliver for a 2nd and 5th.

 

[Cirris]

Cowboys war room looks pissed

Like the pick, kinda hate that we burned a 4th to move up 2 spots.

Like i said, Cowboys needed a TE. a lot of boards have them taking Kincaid.

So i think Bills traded ahead to get their guy.