GatorMike
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Understood. And I'm not saying those criticisms weren't valid.
I just think it's hypocritical for fans to criticize them for not spending enough, then turn around and also criticize them for going over the threshhold.
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I just think it's hypocritical for fans to criticize them for not spending enough, then turn around and also criticize them for going over the threshhold.
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Absolutely agree. I was adding to your point that there are more considerations than simply the reluctance of going over the CBT than money.
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The search for a new chief baseball officer for the Red Sox took some interesting twists and turns along the way before ending with the hiring of Craig Breslow. Here's a look at the process.
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I dont feel bad for ownership group paying a tax when they own multiple franchises. boo hoo
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I don't think anyone has argued that you should feel bad for FSG.
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In what part of that letter did Henry make the case that fans should feel bad for FSG having to pay the CBT?
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I hope it goes 7, because that was fun as hell….
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Was watching college hockey last night and never checked after I saw Arizona was up 5-3 in the 8th. Winning a game like the Rangers did is very anti Texas Rangers. Historically you'd expect them to be the ones to gag the 5-3 lead. Wish I saw it live now!
Are we talking about the completely bungled deadline which caused them to stay over the tax? Were we supposed to be happy that they middled it and stayed above the tax during a lost season?
Yep. My brother and I were talking about that last night. They spend money like drunken sailors, but for whatever reason they didn't want to put out the cash for Seager.......their WS MVP from 2020.
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I don't care if people are happy or not. I just want them to be consistent.
If you're banging the drum about how ownership isn't spending enough money to win, then you can't also complain about the compensatory draft picks and the loss of bonus pool money, because that's what you're advocating for.
Sorry but it's not hypocritical to get on them for being over the tax when they had a chance to avoid it at a trade deadline. That's different than going into a season. They could have added pieces but to middle it, stay above the tax and not add anything...that was a debacle.
Kelley pitched a gem tonight. On to Arizona.
This Diamondback team reminds me a lot of those 1980s Whitey Herzog Cardinal teams..
I’ve seen more SAC bunts these past 2 games than I’ve seen in the past 2 years…..and I think that’s a good thing.
This Diamondback team reminds me a lot of those 1980s Whitey Herzog Cardinal teams..
I’ve seen more SAC bunts these past 2 games than I’ve seen in the past 2 years…..and I think that’s a good thing.
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I think it's fair criticism because it looks that the Red Sox are a rudderless organization at the moment. They can't pick a direction. They want to have their cake and eat it too because they want to justify their high ticket prices while not spending to the capability everyone knows they can given the resources that ownership has.
My issue in this discussion was this idea that Red Sox fans can't complain about them staying above the tax in a season where they were like a .500 team and added nothing at the deadline/traded Vazquez. If that's gonna be your approach in a lost season why are you staying above the tax? They could have and should have gotten under the tax if they made a determination that they weren't going to add anything. It's perfectly reasonable to evaluate every situation differently.
But in general if they want to keep charging the most in baseball and increasing prices then that should be reflected in the payroll. It should be a top 5 payroll team. Not in the 10-15 range like we saw this year. But that is also going into a season. If the team stinks then by all means trade off whatever salary you can at the trade deadline.
Here I thought Kelly was some youngish guy the DBacks developed but this morning I read he's a 35 year old "nobody" who was pitching in South Korea at one point. What a story.
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I feel you think things through before you post.
I just really struggle trying to understand what you are defending
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| TEAM | RSN | MARKET | 2023 | 2022 | % +/- |
| Rangers | Bally Sports Southwest | Dallas-Ft. Worth | 1.41 | 0.71 | 99% |
| Pirates | AT&T SportsNet Pittsburgh | Pittsburgh | 4.21 | 2.45 | 72% |
| Orioles | MASN | Baltimore | 4.23 | 2.56 | 65% |
| Reds | Bally Sports Ohio | Cincinnati | 4.74 | 2.87 | 65% |
| Cubs | Marquee Sports Network | Chicago | 2.16 | 1.61 | 34% |
| Twins | Bally Sports North | Minneapolis- St. Paul | 3.31 | 2.47 | 34% |
| Phillies | NBC Sports Philadelphia | Philadelphia | 5.49 | 4.23 | 30% |
| D-backs | MLB** | Phoenix | 1.25 | 1.00 | 25% |
| Rays | Bally Sports Sun | Tampa-St. Pete | 3.18 | 2.55 | 25% |
| Braves | Bally Sports South/Southeast | Atlanta | 3.43 | 2.90 | 18% |
| Mariners | Root Sports Northwest | Seattle-Tacoma | 3.66 | 3.14 | 17% |
| Marlins | Bally Sports Florida | Miami- Ft. Lauderdale | 0.75 | 0.66 | 14% |
| Brewers | Bally Sports Wisconsin | Milwaukee | 5.19 | 4.65 | 12% |
| Angels | Bally Sports West | L.A. | 0.90 | 0.83 | 8% |
| Rockies | AT&T SportsNet Rocky Mountain | Denver | 0.90 | 0.85 | 6% |
| Nationals | MASN | D.C. | 0.85 | 0.81 | 5% |
| Tigers | Bally Sports Detroit | Detroit | 2.56 | 2.52 | 2% |
| Red Sox | NESN | Boston | 2.67 | 2.67 | 0% |
| Guardians | Bally Sports Great Lakes | Cleveland-Akron | 3.85 | 3.87 | -1% |
| Padres | MLB** | San Diego | 4.13 | 4.45 | -7% |
| Astros | AT&T SportsNet Southwest | Houston | 3.79 | 4.20 | -10% |
| Giants | NBC Sports Bay Area | S.F.-Oakland- San Jose | 2.10 | 2.47 | -15% |
| Dodgers | SportsNet L.A. | L.A. | 1.77 | 2.12 | -17% |
| A's | NBC Sports California | S.F.-Oakland- San Jose | 0.36 | 0.47 | -23% |
| Yankees | YES Network | N.Y. | 2.23 | 2.99 | -25% |
| Mets | SNY | N.Y. | 1.73 | 2.36 | -27% |
| Cardinals | Bally Sports Midwest | St. Louis | 5.30 | 7.28 | -27% |
| Royals | Bally Sports Kansas City | K.C. | 2.60 | 3.72 | -30% |
| White Sox | NBC Sports Chicago | Chicago | 0.99 | 1.69 | -41% |
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I am not a baseball fan, and used to resent the primacy of the Red Sox among Boston's "three sport media," but rooting for the impressive and intriguing Breslow,
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I am not a baseball fan, and used to resent the primacy of the Red Sox among Boston's "three sport media," but rooting for the impressive and intriguing Breslow,
Craig Breslow is a problem solver. His next project? The Red Sox. - The Boston Globe
The Red Sox’ new chief baseball officer has demonstrated boldness and a willingness to reach for a high bar and grasp it. He confronts forks along the way with decisiveness and ambition.
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