Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk XII

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Weisse owned Lucic that series. Made him look like a punk.

Lucic, Iginla, and Thornton among others came out of that series looking like bitches for the arrogance they showed.
So did this year's playoff version of the Bruins. They looked confused that anyone would dare challenge their record-breaking greatness. Owned.
 
I rather doubt Hathaway was told anything anyone else on the roster wasn't told, which was, "Don't expend energy after the whistle. Play between the whistles." How often did you hear this last from players during the series?

Nonsense.

Ostensibly, I get the idea. However, even within those whistles, the B's were manhandled.

Mystifying.

You can blame the players for terrible play on almost every level. That's fair as far as it goes.

What you can't do is tell me JIm Montgomery isn't 90% responsible for a jaw dropping series of astonishingly poor decisions that, unquestionably, cost the Bruins the series.

To me, there's no other way to look at it.

As noted in the immediate aftermath of the fiasco, Jim Montgomery better learn from his misjudgment this season, and assuming there is one, any playoff run.

He deserved a second chance last season, and with qualms from this corner, he should get another chance this year.

At present and going forward, the jury is out.

And if Montgomery doesn't get it together, he'll be out, too.
A--------men!
 
To all those saying that Hathaway was horrible, here are some stats.
27 hits (2nd on team)
11 blocked shots (3rd on team)
9.9 blocked shots per 60 (1st on the team by a lot)
48% expected goals percentage (not great, but far from horrible. Forbort was 29%)
Averaging about 4 hits per game with under 10 minutes of ice time. He got about 13-14 minutes in prior years. I think people are frustrated he wasn’t as dirty as his highlight reel might suggest, but Monty seemed to structure everything around avoiding Florida’s pp. I would be very surprised if a coach the quality of Monty didn’t have a talk with Hathaway about not taking penalties.

Hathaway without the dirt is irrelevant and not likely the version Sweeney had in mind sending the assets for he and Orlov.
 
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Again , perfect storm. It would never happen again. It didn't because Weisse faded away , like he shoukld have , he was never really relevant, just got lucky, it happens , real hockey fans can see the difference. But you got your stats .........

So DALE WEISSE 513gp 55G 70A 125P

So Milan Lucic 1173 GP that alone should tell you everything you need to know but .............. 223G 351A 584P almost the same ,don't you think? Come on , we know you see hockey from a different lens but maybe you need to upgrade just a lot.


Not sure why you're comparing careers when it was clearly stated we are talking about that series.
 
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JVR is gonna be the whipping boy.

Mark my words, dude is gonna put up 30+ points while getting paid $1m bucks and people are gonna find reasons to shit on him all year.
Yes, well, there's always a ripping boy, isn't there? If he didn't exist, this fan base would invent him. And, I dare say, every other fan base does the same.
 
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So, you know, f*ck the Lucic signing, I guess. Guy's a bum. Worthless.
I said he could have worth.

All I said was to say "Hey if we had this 4th line guy we would have won the series" is a complete stretch with zero evidence or reasoning other than fond nostalgia.

Again , perfect storm. It would never happen again. It didn't because Weisse faded away , like he shoukld have , he was never really relevant, just got lucky, it happens , real hockey fans can see the difference. But you got your stats .........

So DALE WEISSE 513gp 55G 70A 125P

So Milan Lucic 1173 GP that alone should tell you everything you need to know but .............. 223G 351A 584P almost the same ,don't you think? Come on , we know you see hockey from a different lens but maybe you need to upgrade just a lot.
You understand what I wrote: The LAST TIME WE SAW LUCIC IN THE PLAYOFFS.

That has nothing to do with the 10 years of his career where Lucic was a very good player and Weise was a fringe player. But yes, the last time we saw Lucic in the playoffs he had 1 goal in a 7 game series, was pointless for games 4-7, was outplayed and mocked openly 2x by Weise without responding and then was classless in the handshake line.

But sure, he totally would have choke slammed Tkachuk with one hand, while headbutting Gudas, and scoring the winning goal in game 7.
 
I rather doubt Hathaway was told anything anyone else on the roster wasn't told, which was, "Don't expend energy after the whistle. Play between the whistles." How often did you hear this last from players during the series?

Nonsense.

Ostensibly, I get the idea. However, even within those whistles, the B's were manhandled.

Mystifying.

You can blame the players for terrible play on almost every level. That's fair as far as it goes.

What you can't do is tell me JIm Montgomery isn't 90% responsible for a jaw dropping series of astonishingly poor decisions that, unquestionably, cost the Bruins the series.

To me, there's no other way to look at it.

As noted in the immediate aftermath of the fiasco, Jim Montgomery better learn from his misjudgment this season, and assuming there is one, any playoff run.

He deserved a second chance last season, and with qualms from this corner, he should get another chance this year.

At present and going forward, the jury is out.

And if Montgomery doesn't get it together, he'll be out, too.
I think he was told to knock it off because of analytics these days. Bruins use it quite a bit.
 
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I said he could have worth.

All I said was to say "Hey if we had this 4th line guy we would have won the series" is a complete stretch with zero evidence or reasoning other than fond nostalgia.


You understand what I wrote: The LAST TIME WE SAW LUCIC IN THE PLAYOFFS.

That has nothing to do with the 10 years of his career where Lucic was a very good player and Weise was a fringe player. But yes, the last time we saw Lucic in the playoffs he had 1 goal in a 7 game series, was pointless for games 4-7, was outplayed and mocked openly 2x by Weise without responding and then was classless in the handshake line.

But sure, he totally would have choke slammed Tkachuk with one hand, while headbutting Gudas, and scoring the winning goal in game 7.
Im not sure the majority here think that Lucic will be fighting or change things all that much for this upcoming team. I just think people are happy he’s back. That simple. I think there will be long days during the season.
 
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yup, Forbort wasn't very good, and Hathway was a complete ghost, but blaming your #6 dman and a 4th liner for losing a playoff series is an interesting stance
Good point , I would say it could also be a lack of knowledge , or I have an agenda stance.............there was other factors in their loss , but for many as you say 4th liner and 6 dman is easier to blame..........
 
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Good point , I would say it could also be a lack of knowledge , or I have an agenda stance.............there was other factors in their loss , but for many as you say 4th liner and 6 dman is easier to blame..........
One can say Forbort and Hathaway were horribly ineffective and not blame them solely for the series loss.
 
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Yes, well, there's always a ripping boy, isn't there? If he didn't exist, this fan base would invent him. And, I dare say, every other fan base does the same.
My hot take: JVR will be pretty good, Geekie won't be what some people are predicting and will therefor be the whipping boy
 
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Dump forgert and get a center. Lohrei probably makes the team anyway we dont need Derek.
Forbort and or his cap hit aren’t going to get a center better than what we already have. Hell even if you move Forbort and Gryz that’s only 6 million which wouldn’t get us the center we need.

Also a bottom pairing without Forbort would be a disaster. Shattenkirk-Lohrei/Zboril yikes.
 
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