Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk XII

[BMC]

Take Hathaway out and add Lucic, do we lose that round? I think not. Hathaway was a giant disappointment and that's being kind

That trade turned out to be a waste of assets.

I don't know if he was outright told to tone it down or it was implied strongly that he should.

Either way he was not the Garnet Hathaway we all know & loathe.

 

[HumBucker]

Haha...........you need a job

This IS my job!

 

[GordonHowe]

Why in the world would Tkachuk fight Lucic? Tkachuk was the best player in the series and his team needed him to play. Leaving the ice for 5 minutes in exchange for a 4th liner would be dumb.

Ok so maybe Lucic jumps him and doesn't give him the choice. Sure.

Then we can play the "What if Gudas jumps Pasta and fights him without giving him a choice?" game too.

You can say that adding Lucic for this season is a good idea. I'm not sure I agree with it, but it's an argument that can be made. To say definitively that if Lucic played instead of Hathaway that would have changed who won that series has no actual basis to support it.



This isn't the defense you think it is.

Yeah, CGY sucked.

And Lucic sucked the most. Sure his suckiness can be mitigated by better teammates, but at this point, by all measures other than fistfights, Hathaway is a better player (and I don't think Hathaway is particularly good).

So, you know, f*ck the Lucic signing, I guess. Guy's a bum. Worthless.

 

[GordonHowe]

That trade turned out to be a waste of assets.

I don't know if he was outright told to tone it down or it was implied strongly that he should.

Either way he was not the Garnet Hathaway we all know & loathe.

I rather doubt Hathaway was told anything anyone else on the roster wasn't told, which was, "Don't expend energy after the whistle. Play between the whistles." How often did you hear this last from players during the series?

Nonsense.

Ostensibly, I get the idea. However, even within those whistles, the B's were manhandled.

Mystifying.

You can blame the players for terrible play on almost every level. That's fair as far as it goes.

What you can't do is tell me JIm Montgomery isn't 90% responsible for a jaw dropping series of astonishingly poor decisions that, unquestionably, cost the Bruins the series.

To me, there's no other way to look at it.

As noted in the immediate aftermath of the fiasco, Jim Montgomery better learn from his misjudgment this season, and assuming there is one, any playoff run.

He deserved a second chance last season, and with qualms from this corner, he should get another chance this year.

At present and going forward, the jury is out.

And if Montgomery doesn't get it together, he'll be out, too.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

I rather doubt Hathaway was told anything anyone else on the roster wasn't told, which was, "Don't expend energy after the whistle. Play between the whistles." How often did you hear this last from players during the series?

Nonsense.

Ostensibly, I get the idea. However, even within those whistles, the B's were manhandled.

Mystifying.

You can blame the players for terrible play on almost every level. That's fair as far as it goes.

What you can't do is tell me JIm Montgomery isn't 90% responsible for a jaw dropping series of astonishingly poor decisions that, unquestionably, cost the Bruins the series.

To me, there's no other way to look at it.

As noted in the immediate aftermath of the fiasco, Jim Montgomery better learn from his misjudgment this season, and assuming there is one, any playoff run.

He deserved a second chance last season, and with qualms from this corner, he should get another chance this year.

At present and going forward, the jury is out.

And if Montgomery doesn't get it together, he'll be out, too.

How many Montgomery’s are there?

 

[DKH]

Was reported Bergeron's financial adviser, each summer over the past few years, was told by him "I'm done", in more words.

He had a contract thru 2021

What’s the financial advisor name

How many Montgomery’s are there?

Five

This IS my job!

What a job - you took October 15 till April 30 off

When the Bruins are going good you are not around

 

[BiteThisBurrows]

That trade turned out to be a waste of assets.

I don't know if he was outright told to tone it down or it was implied strongly that he should.

Either way he was not the Garnet Hathaway we all know & loathe.

The cross check ended him. He just couldn't do anything after that and should have been taken out of the line up and replaced.
Would Lucic have changed things? idk. Maybe.

I love Looch, and it's nice to see him back, but I'm waiting to see what he can actually bring at this point. He ain't no spring chicken. I know some fans of other teams laughed about this signing. They think he's an old has been. I sure hope he isn't.

 

[Hookslide]

This IS my job!

Hey be easy on me , I am always stepping in it.........

 

[JOKER 192]

We have the best management up in here

Wally's the best

 

[JOKER 192]

That's a huge stretch. I keep saying this and people want to ignore it: Lucic was the worst defensive F on a team that was bad. His team was drastically outscored with him on the ice... in other words, his team did worse whenever he was there.

To think that because he pushes some guy after a scrum in a game would solve the dmen making bad passes or keep Bergeron from being hurt is a mighty big stretch.

BTW the last time we saw Lucic in the playoffs he was getting owned by Dale F'n Weisse.

Jesus Christ, WTF ? Are you kidding? Your posts are usually really good but this is ...................................I not allowed to say what this is.

In what world does Weisse own Lucic? So the stars all aligned and everything went his way and made him look real good , it happens. Where was Weisse after that? It is nonsense to write what you wrote , you're better than that.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

And? Literally who the f*** cares about the points record? Especially now! Hell, why did anyone ever car about that at all?

You know what I do care about? That Hathaway was f***ing useless in the post-season, which is specifically what they got him for, not so he could help capture a meaningless points record. He deserves to get denigrated for what a ghost he was.

If I'm remembering things correctly, I'm pretty sure Tkachuk cheapshotted him (maybe broke a rib? Or something) I just remember him taking some shots when he was down on the ice, and wasn't the same player after that during the series.

Not making excuses, but pretty sure Hathaway was injured, and the Bruins has zero answer to Tkachuk. If he wasn't issue, then yes I agree. Would Lucic be that guy that would change that? Who knows, I don't know if he is at this stage.

Tkachuk brought another level that absolutely no Bruin did. We need our stars to make that next level. If Hathaway was supposed to be that guy, then sure, let's blame him, but I think the whole team and staff had a lot of mirrors to look into.

 

[JOKER 192]

That trade turned out to be a waste of assets.

I don't know if he was outright told to tone it down or it was implied strongly that he should.

Either way he was not the Garnet Hathaway we all know & loathe.

The good news is we can go back to loathing him.

 

[JOKER 192]

If I'm remembering things correctly, I'm pretty sure Tkachuk cheapshotted him (maybe broke a rib? Or something) I just remember him taking some shots when he was down on the ice, and wasn't the same player after that during the series.

Not making excuses, but pretty sure Hathaway was injured, and the Bruins has zero answer to Tkachuk. That's the bigger issue. Would Lucic be that guy? Who knows, I don't know if he is at this stage.

Tkachuk brought another level that absolutely no Bruin did. We need our stars to make that next level. If Hathaway was supposed to be that guy, then sure, let's blame him, but I think the whole team and staff had a lot of mirrors to look into.

IDK, I watched Tkachuk when Lucic was on his team and I watched him when he wasn't. He was a way bigger a-hole when he was. I got the sense Tkachuk loved playing on a team that had Lucic. Only logical to think he wouldn't like playing against him.

 

[GoBs]

Its obvious that Monty’s strategy - to a fault - was in fear of the Panthers PP above all else. No extra penalties. Forbort an anchor. Huge mistake.

Here we go…everything leads to Forbort with this guy. The reason the bruins lost the series was Forbort and Hathaway are you serious

 

[bruinmann77]

Lucic number one job is to protect pasta and the studs

 

[JOKER 192]

Lucic number one job is to protect pasta and the studs

Agreed , Lucic is the accountant and collector . Those who owe need to pay .

 

[Lobster57]

Lucic number one job is to protect pasta and the studs

worst boy band ever

 

[Lobster57]

Here we go…everything leads to Forbort with this guy. The reason the bruins lost the series was Forbort and Hathaway are you serious

yup, Forbort wasn't very good, and Hathway was a complete ghost, but blaming your #6 dman and a 4th liner for losing a playoff series is an interesting stance

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

yup, Forbort wasn't very good, and Hathway was a complete ghost, but blaming your #6 dman and a 4th liner for losing a playoff series is an interesting stance

Where did he say that this is why they lost the series?

 

[I am Bettman]

To all those saying that Hathaway was horrible, here are some stats.
27 hits (2nd on team)
11 blocked shots (3rd on team)
9.9 blocked shots per 60 (1st on the team by a lot)
48% expected goals percentage (not great, but far from horrible. Forbort was 29%)
Averaging about 4 hits per game with under 10 minutes of ice time. He got about 13-14 minutes in prior years. I think people are frustrated he wasn’t as dirty as his highlight reel might suggest, but Monty seemed to structure everything around avoiding Florida’s pp. I would be very surprised if a coach the quality of Monty didn’t have a talk with Hathaway about not taking penalties.

 

[JOKER 192]

Where did he say that this is why they lost the series?

IDK, Forbort an anchor? Doesn't suggest ,.......well you know what I mean .

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

Jesus Christ, WTF ? Are you kidding? Your posts are usually really good but this is ...................................I not allowed to say what this is.

In what world does Weisse own Lucic? So the stars all aligned and everything went his way and made him look real good , it happens. Where was Weisse after that? It is nonsense to write what you wrote , you're better than that.

Weisse owned Lucic that series. Made him look like a punk.

Lucic, Iginla, and Thornton among others came out of that series looking like bitches for the arrogance they showed.

 

[JOKER 192]

Weisse owned Lucic that series. Made him look like a punk.

Lucic, Iginla, and Thornton among others came out of that series looking like bitches for the arrogance they showed.

Again , perfect storm. It would never happen again. It didn't because Weisse faded away , like he shoukld have , he was never really relevant, just got lucky, it happens , real hockey fans can see the difference. But you got your stats .........

So DALE WEISSE 513gp 55G 70A 125P

So Milan Lucic 1173 GP that alone should tell you everything you need to know but .............. 223G 351A 584P almost the same ,don't you think? Come on , we know you see hockey from a different lens but maybe you need to upgrade just a lot.

 

[Gordoff]

I’m with you on this. I’m not sure why everyone thinks lucic is still a game changer. He really isn’t. I wouldn’t be surprised if he spent some games in the press box. He averaged about 2 hits a game. He had 43 pim. No one will fight him anymore. It’s not the same nhl as it was.

And don’t get me wrong. I love lucic. He was great ten years ago. He just isn’t as effective as he once was.

Hopefully I’m wrong.


He won’t fight anyone. He starts problems and then hides behind the refs. And in the new nhl you can’t just grab him and start pounding his head in.a

He is more of a rat than Marchand. At least Marchand is willing to drop the gloves.


Gudas isn’t fighting anyone either. Why do you guys think these players fight? Hathaway doesn’t fight much, Wilson doesn’t fight much, I’ve never seen gudas fight, tkachuk doesn’t fight, Bennett doesn’t fight. None of these guys are likely to drop the gloves.

Lucic will probably only fight reaves

Say what you will about Looch 8 years ago, but Bennett, Gudas, and especially Tkachuk bitch slapped the broons all over the ice. The B's had NO physical answer for 95% of it.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

IDK, Forbort an anchor? Doesn't suggest ,.......well you know what I mean .

Not to me. He's saying Forbort sucked.

He may argue that Forbort shouldn't have played over other options. That universally whoever he paired with was better off with anyone else on the roster. That as things got worse for his team, he stopped doing the one thing that even his biggest detractors couldn't deny him credit for - and that's block shots.

All of that would check out.

But he never said that Forbort and Hathaway were the reasons the Bruins lost or even a primary factor in the loss. Just that they sucked. Because they did.