Jorah Marshmont
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Looch coming back east just when the Sabres think they’ve gotten past him ruining their franchise:
Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk XI
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If Lucic doesn’t have at least 8 threads started about him on the main board I will be disappointed
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I couldn't remember Norris I knew there was another key C there.
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That’s very fair. U could be right. And I honestly would love to add him. I just don’t see it happening. I think a prospect or two might get a look and who ever they have signed plus tfred and swayman will be the opening day roster. If lohrei takes a big step and makes the team then maybe they make a trade.
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The Bruins don't need center help. They don't need anymore 3s or 4s. Honestly they don't even need anymore 2s.
The Bruins need is a legit, top 20 in the league #1 center (potentially a younger player who can be that). Anything that doesn't begin to address that isn't worth the effort to get
The Bruins need is a legit, top 20 in the league #1 center (potentially a younger player who can be that). Anything that doesn't begin to address that isn't worth the effort to get
Inmy experience was the aggrieved party attended but never spoke a word. Only the union lawyers and shop steward did all the talking.
Tomorrow’s Globe:
www.bostonglobe.com
With the inevitable having come to pass, and Patrice Bergeron now officially retired, the Bruins front office has 10 weeks to figure out the top two center spots leading to the Oct. 11 season opener.
Assuming that David Krejci follows Bergeron to the front-porch rocking chair, the current depth chart has Pavel Zacha and Charlie Coyle filling the Nos. 1-2 pivot roles.
They’re both bigger bodies (Coyle 6 feet 3 inches, Zacha 6-4), and experienced (combined 1,253 games), though their skill sets have yet to be tested under the game-to-game demands of driving the top two lines. Unfair, really, to dismiss their suitability for the leading roles until we see how they deal with heavy reps.
For those doubting their upside, let us recall that many here believed Brad Marchand, never with more than 55 points in his first six seasons, wouldn’t top out as more than a prickly middle-six winger in the NHL. The Lil’ Ball o’Hate, age 35 and closing in on 1,000 career games, has collected 573 points over the last seven seasons, ranking him No. 7 among all NHL scorers since the start of 2016-17. No. 8 is David Pastrnak (564).
It’s a fast game, and many of us are too quick to judge.
Zacha, 26, just delivered a career-best 21-36—57 and began to display a greater propensity to shoot over the second half of the season. Coach Jim Montgomery will aim to tease out more of that shoot-first urge, which could prove tricky given that Pastrnak (league-high 407 shots last season) likely will ride on his right side. If Marchand is on the left, they’ll need at least one more puck.
Coyle, his O-zone personality thus far defined by possession, grinding, and cycling, is more of a classic No. 3 pivot in today’s game. Demands at No. 1 or 2 are for more give-and-go playmaking. He also will have to drive down low more, work possession, and play closer to the blue paint with a lighter, quicker stick. Zacha looks more capable of doing that, but again, best we all not get blinded by pretrial publicity.
Team president Cam Neely, judged as just another guy after three seasons and 200-plus games with the Canucks, said the Bruins will continue to look for options to build out the center spot. Again, this was with everyone in the room anticipating Krejci’s departure. That hasn’t changed. If he returns, he is No. 1, even at age 37. The trick would be for general manager Don Sweeney to find cap space for Krejci.
Currently, the two other realistic options to work the middle (with Tomas Nosek departed to New Jersey) are Trent Frederic and newcomer Morgan Geekie. Both are 25 and 6-3, though each with fewer than 200 games played. They are both solid candidates, but in bottom-six center roles, and depending how training camp shakes out, Frederic could find himself back working at wing. Until further notice, Jake DeBrusk and James van Riemsdyk will work with Marchand and Pastrnak in the top-six forward corps.
No matter who goes where in the forward group, we are not going to see a Bruins team that last season rolled up 305 goals and posted a league-best plus-128 goal differential.
As currently engineered, the roster’s greatest strength is in net and along the blue line. Scoring portends to be down, perhaps significantly (10 percent?), unless the defensemen contribute substantially more than the 39 goals they scored last season. That’s doubtful, first and foremost because the overall accent after Bergeron’s departure will require everyone playing a tighter game in the neutral and defensive zones.
Also, scoring from beyond, say, 40 feet is difficult in today’s NHL. If the backline is going to pop, it will mean having to activate, be more willing to attack and strike down low. Fun and exciting, yes, but not exactly what the doctor orders when the patient requires a defense-based diet.
Even if Zacha and Coyle prove to be the right guys at the top, it could take a half-season or more for each to find legs in their more demanding roles, and for chemistry to build with their wingers. All of which means patience, both on the ice and in the stands.
After witnessing a record 65 wins, followed by the shock of a first-round KO, it could be the patience in the stands stretched thinner than the talent at center as the new season beckons.
Are Pavel Zacha and Charlie Coyle ready to be the Bruins’ Nos. 1 and 2 centers? - The Boston Globe
Assuming David Krejci follows Patrice Bergeron into retirement, there will be top-six openings to fill.
www.bostonglobe.com
With the inevitable having come to pass, and Patrice Bergeron now officially retired, the Bruins front office has 10 weeks to figure out the top two center spots leading to the Oct. 11 season opener.
Assuming that David Krejci follows Bergeron to the front-porch rocking chair, the current depth chart has Pavel Zacha and Charlie Coyle filling the Nos. 1-2 pivot roles.
They’re both bigger bodies (Coyle 6 feet 3 inches, Zacha 6-4), and experienced (combined 1,253 games), though their skill sets have yet to be tested under the game-to-game demands of driving the top two lines. Unfair, really, to dismiss their suitability for the leading roles until we see how they deal with heavy reps.
For those doubting their upside, let us recall that many here believed Brad Marchand, never with more than 55 points in his first six seasons, wouldn’t top out as more than a prickly middle-six winger in the NHL. The Lil’ Ball o’Hate, age 35 and closing in on 1,000 career games, has collected 573 points over the last seven seasons, ranking him No. 7 among all NHL scorers since the start of 2016-17. No. 8 is David Pastrnak (564).
It’s a fast game, and many of us are too quick to judge.
Zacha, 26, just delivered a career-best 21-36—57 and began to display a greater propensity to shoot over the second half of the season. Coach Jim Montgomery will aim to tease out more of that shoot-first urge, which could prove tricky given that Pastrnak (league-high 407 shots last season) likely will ride on his right side. If Marchand is on the left, they’ll need at least one more puck.
Coyle, his O-zone personality thus far defined by possession, grinding, and cycling, is more of a classic No. 3 pivot in today’s game. Demands at No. 1 or 2 are for more give-and-go playmaking. He also will have to drive down low more, work possession, and play closer to the blue paint with a lighter, quicker stick. Zacha looks more capable of doing that, but again, best we all not get blinded by pretrial publicity.
Team president Cam Neely, judged as just another guy after three seasons and 200-plus games with the Canucks, said the Bruins will continue to look for options to build out the center spot. Again, this was with everyone in the room anticipating Krejci’s departure. That hasn’t changed. If he returns, he is No. 1, even at age 37. The trick would be for general manager Don Sweeney to find cap space for Krejci.
Currently, the two other realistic options to work the middle (with Tomas Nosek departed to New Jersey) are Trent Frederic and newcomer Morgan Geekie. Both are 25 and 6-3, though each with fewer than 200 games played. They are both solid candidates, but in bottom-six center roles, and depending how training camp shakes out, Frederic could find himself back working at wing. Until further notice, Jake DeBrusk and James van Riemsdyk will work with Marchand and Pastrnak in the top-six forward corps.
No matter who goes where in the forward group, we are not going to see a Bruins team that last season rolled up 305 goals and posted a league-best plus-128 goal differential.
As currently engineered, the roster’s greatest strength is in net and along the blue line. Scoring portends to be down, perhaps significantly (10 percent?), unless the defensemen contribute substantially more than the 39 goals they scored last season. That’s doubtful, first and foremost because the overall accent after Bergeron’s departure will require everyone playing a tighter game in the neutral and defensive zones.
Also, scoring from beyond, say, 40 feet is difficult in today’s NHL. If the backline is going to pop, it will mean having to activate, be more willing to attack and strike down low. Fun and exciting, yes, but not exactly what the doctor orders when the patient requires a defense-based diet.
Even if Zacha and Coyle prove to be the right guys at the top, it could take a half-season or more for each to find legs in their more demanding roles, and for chemistry to build with their wingers. All of which means patience, both on the ice and in the stands.
After witnessing a record 65 wins, followed by the shock of a first-round KO, it could be the patience in the stands stretched thinner than the talent at center as the new season beckons.
Also from Globe:
As of Friday night, Jeremy Swayman (Sunday) and Trent Frederic(Tuesday) remained on course for their salary arbitration hearings. Combined, their awards are virtually guaranteed to wipe out the remaining $5.4 million of Don Sweeney’s cap cash. It’s possible that Sweeney will have to trade someone to keep under the $83.5 million limit. If needed, he also can go the buyout route, an escape offered when clubs have players file for arbitration. If they were to choose that route, the prime target would be third-pairing D-man Derek Forbort, whose $3 million cap hit for the coming season would drop to $667,000, per capfriendly.com. Forbort is a very valuable PK asset, usually working with Brandon Carlo on the first unit, but that substantial savings could make him vulnerable. It also could open a spot for prospects Ian Mitchell or Reilly Walsh .
As of Friday night, Jeremy Swayman (Sunday) and Trent Frederic(Tuesday) remained on course for their salary arbitration hearings. Combined, their awards are virtually guaranteed to wipe out the remaining $5.4 million of Don Sweeney’s cap cash. It’s possible that Sweeney will have to trade someone to keep under the $83.5 million limit. If needed, he also can go the buyout route, an escape offered when clubs have players file for arbitration. If they were to choose that route, the prime target would be third-pairing D-man Derek Forbort, whose $3 million cap hit for the coming season would drop to $667,000, per capfriendly.com. Forbort is a very valuable PK asset, usually working with Brandon Carlo on the first unit, but that substantial savings could make him vulnerable. It also could open a spot for prospects Ian Mitchell or Reilly Walsh .
MarchysNoseKnows
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Come on Globe - they can’t buyout Forbort in that window. He doesn’t make enough dough. Unreal.
Blowfish
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Always disliked $ Bill...still do! Too bad it wasn't a longer hearing for Guerin.
??? @GWally has experience in arbitration hearings? Cool and how is that?
not sports.
Oil, Chemical, and Atomic Workers vs. Baxter Travenol 1980s.
Ours was with National Labor Relations Board presiding.
I was part of management team testifying.
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Interesting! Big union. Each case always had a ripple effect to the industry. Hope you were sporting your avatar image during the negotiations. Scary chit!
Tomorrow’s Globe:
Are Pavel Zacha and Charlie Coyle ready to be the Bruins’ Nos. 1 and 2 centers? - The Boston Globe
Assuming David Krejci follows Patrice Bergeron into retirement, there will be top-six openings to fill.
With the inevitable having come to pass, and Patrice Bergeron now officially retired, the Bruins front office has 10 weeks to figure out the top two center spots leading to the Oct. 11 season opener.
Assuming that David Krejci follows Bergeron to the front-porch rocking chair, the current depth chart has Pavel Zacha and Charlie Coyle filling the Nos. 1-2 pivot roles.
They’re both bigger bodies (Coyle 6 feet 3 inches, Zacha 6-4), and experienced (combined 1,253 games), though their skill sets have yet to be tested under the game-to-game demands of driving the top two lines. Unfair, really, to dismiss their suitability for the leading roles until we see how they deal with heavy reps.
For those doubting their upside, let us recall that many here believed Brad Marchand, never with more than 55 points in his first six seasons, wouldn’t top out as more than a prickly middle-six winger in the NHL. The Lil’ Ball o’Hate, age 35 and closing in on 1,000 career games, has collected 573 points over the last seven seasons, ranking him No. 7 among all NHL scorers since the start of 2016-17. No. 8 is David Pastrnak (564).
It’s a fast game, and many of us are too quick to judge.
Zacha, 26, just delivered a career-best 21-36—57 and began to display a greater propensity to shoot over the second half of the season. Coach Jim Montgomery will aim to tease out more of that shoot-first urge, which could prove tricky given that Pastrnak (league-high 407 shots last season) likely will ride on his right side. If Marchand is on the left, they’ll need at least one more puck.
Coyle, his O-zone personality thus far defined by possession, grinding, and cycling, is more of a classic No. 3 pivot in today’s game. Demands at No. 1 or 2 are for more give-and-go playmaking. He also will have to drive down low more, work possession, and play closer to the blue paint with a lighter, quicker stick. Zacha looks more capable of doing that, but again, best we all not get blinded by pretrial publicity.
Team president Cam Neely, judged as just another guy after three seasons and 200-plus games with the Canucks, said the Bruins will continue to look for options to build out the center spot. Again, this was with everyone in the room anticipating Krejci’s departure. That hasn’t changed. If he returns, he is No. 1, even at age 37. The trick would be for general manager Don Sweeney to find cap space for Krejci.
Currently, the two other realistic options to work the middle (with Tomas Nosek departed to New Jersey) are Trent Frederic and newcomer Morgan Geekie. Both are 25 and 6-3, though each with fewer than 200 games played. They are both solid candidates, but in bottom-six center roles, and depending how training camp shakes out, Frederic could find himself back working at wing. Until further notice, Jake DeBrusk and James van Riemsdyk will work with Marchand and Pastrnak in the top-six forward corps.
No matter who goes where in the forward group, we are not going to see a Bruins team that last season rolled up 305 goals and posted a league-best plus-128 goal differential.
As currently engineered, the roster’s greatest strength is in net and along the blue line. Scoring portends to be down, perhaps significantly (10 percent?), unless the defensemen contribute substantially more than the 39 goals they scored last season. That’s doubtful, first and foremost because the overall accent after Bergeron’s departure will require everyone playing a tighter game in the neutral and defensive zones.
Also, scoring from beyond, say, 40 feet is difficult in today’s NHL. If the backline is going to pop, it will mean having to activate, be more willing to attack and strike down low. Fun and exciting, yes, but not exactly what the doctor orders when the patient requires a defense-based diet.
Even if Zacha and Coyle prove to be the right guys at the top, it could take a half-season or more for each to find legs in their more demanding roles, and for chemistry to build with their wingers. All of which means patience, both on the ice and in the stands.
After witnessing a record 65 wins, followed by the shock of a first-round KO, it could be the patience in the stands stretched thinner than the talent at center as the new season beckons.
A bitter pill of irony that the best team in the league in 22-23 is going to find itself with 2 top 6 C's with a 52 point average of production despite having the best wing depth in the league in 22-23, and now with half of that leaving as cap dumps. Going to be a tough year as a grind it out defensive team or a lottery pick...
DKH
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Yes
Three things going for Bruins here
1. He makes under 5 M now so 50% retained we are at 2.4 M certainly workable
2. They have the perfect set up - need and a very good supporting cast/organization
3. Every team has a 7.5 + M center or two who are attractive destinations
Seeens has the space needed next season to add the 4th and final elite piece to foundation
Goalie - Ullmark
Defense - McAvoy
Scoring winger - Pastrnak
Center - Lindholm
08SeaBass08
Maybe next year.
If Jonathan Toews becomes a Boston Bruin, I will feel the ickiest since Chris Nilan came "home."
Very little and likely years after the fact.
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DKH
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So you are calling me a fraud ?
Where you been I was already accused tried and convicted a few years ago
I’m like the once powerful Winter Warlock who’s only got a pocket full of magic corn
Don’t take anything I post real - just having fun and giving some of sad Bruins fans hope
I’m replacing Don Godfather who has gone to the dark side
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