Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk X

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You have one and only one barometer that allows you to say you were correct in all your bloviating - they haven't won a Cup.

Here are some other examples (not as bad as yours) that would also be correct if anyone decided that they were going to run around and bleat them:

"I told you the Bruins should go with six lefthanded defensemen. They'll never win a Cup with a righthanded defenseman"

"I told you they should have traded McAvoy and Pasta. They didn't win a Cup so I'm right"

"I told you they should have kept Claude Julien. They haven't won a Cup so I'm right"

"Told you they should play Derek Forbort on PP1. They haven't won a Cup so I'm right"

"Told you they should fire Grizz into the sun. They haven't won a Cup so I'm right"

Literally any opinion one could have is by definition correct under your standards.

Not giving an ounce of quarter to the fact they made it to Game freaking 7 of a SC Final with the players you say they had to trade because they're too old, much less the fact that one of those players just won back to back Selke awards, is embarrassing.

Except what I’m talking about is a time tested model with one anomaly in the 1971 Montreal canadiens and time tested throughout the league and many teams.

The examples you have are you just being belligerent and nonsensical.
 



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no way, Debrusk isn't elite bc of some message board flexing saying to pay a forward who is not elite. when did Debrusk magically become some elite all star in this league?
No one is saying he's elite, but over his past 82 regular season games he has 37 goals and 66 points. Add in the fact that he has excellent defensive metrics, and can play both PP and PK, and you have a legit top line winger. And when you have a 26 year old top line winger you should generally try and lock him up.
 
I’m not sure you understand the definition of the word hindsight.

Hindsight by definition is “the understanding of a situation or event after it has happened or developed”

I’ve had plenty conversations with you over the years IN THE MOMENT, of exactly what’s happened. So, no it is not hindsight as I’ve been calling for it before each season and as it’s been happening because it’s glaringly obvious.

And no I’m not embarrassed about being correct.
If you said every single season that they should have traded _____ for ______ reason, for any single team in the league, and used the benchmark of them not winning the cup as being correct, then you're going to be correct pretty much every time, since teams rarely win multiple cups anymore.

If I'm understanding you correctly here, you are saying, as an example, that they were better off in 2019 trading Chara and Krug to recoup assets and not even making a cup run than they were getting to game 7 of the cup since they didn't win anyway?

But the thing is if they do what you wanted them to do they would have had no chance at the cup, likely for multiple years, which by your own logic it is a failure to not win the cup?

I just think when you have a top team like they have this past decade you dont blow it up and hope you can someday be good again. It's being offered a mystery box and a boat but taking the mystery box because it could be better than a boat.
 
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No one is saying he's elite, but over his past 82 regular season games he has 37 goals and 66 points. Add in the fact that he has excellent defensive metrics, and can play both PP and PK, and you have a legit top line winger. And when you have a 26 year old top line winger you should generally try and lock him up.

he had a good year on a great team but I've also seen him be invisible at times. Jake will go for a payday and I don't think he Bruins based on history with Jake will pay big $$
 
He should have also traded chara in 2015 when they missed the playoffs and he was in his late 30s
Really? Look what he did with the returns that they got for Lucic etc. The returns were pretty great but he blew it like he was a 17 year old with a pocket full of found money.
If he had traded Chara it would've devastated the team to a greater degree than the Boychuk trade did just a year prior.
Maybe he would've gotten another first round pick but IMO he would've punted on that one too.
The experienced Don Sweeney of today isn't the same guy who took over the reigns in 2015, and I'm glad he's gotten over his growing pains.
He must've known that Pasta was going to stay here because until he signed him, there was a lot of angst that David would leave without compensation.
That didn't happen thankfully so I doubt that he's going to allow him to walk away without compensation.
Today's Donald Sweeney has really learned from his mistakes IMO and
grown on the job.
Saying that, I'm a bit afraid that I'm 100% wrong, we'll see.

Yes but we lost PLD he was a big fish age 24 stud center for next decade I strongly feel. Perfect replacement for Bergy. Well he ain't bergy and nobody can be him but gives a strong center down the middle. Oh well poitras is gonna be the guy let's go!
You can't "lose" what you never had.
 
I think the question with DeBrusk is what he'd look like these days playing down the lineup. He's meshed well with Bergeron and Marchand since Bruce was forced to put him there at gunpoint, but I'd prefer to have a more solid understanding whether his defense is a function of line synergy or his own talent and effort.

Too late now, regardless. He's here for the season, extended or no, I'd imagine. You don't ask Bergeron to come back for one last hurrah on the cheap, then deal his RW so you can acquire a late 1st.
 
he had a good year on a great team but I've also seen him be invisible at times. Jake will go for a payday and I don't think he Bruins based on history with Jake will pay big $$
he scored at basically the exact same pace this year that he was playing at in the second half last year after getting put on the top line, it didn't come out of nowhere.

Also from the start of the 2018-19 seaons to the end of the 2019-20 season he scored 47 goals in 133 games, good for 28 goals per 82 games over that span.

Maybe he's just a very good player that had an awful year and a half in the middle of a global pandemic.
 
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he scored at basically the exact same pace this year that he was playing at in the second half last year after getting put on the top line, it didn't come out of nowhere.

Also from the start of the 2018-19 seaons to the end of the 2019-20 season he scored 47 goals in 133 games, good for 28 goals per 82 games over that span.

Maybe he's just a very good player that had an awful year and a half in the middle of a global pandemic.

can be good for stretches. Maybe this maybe that we've all seen Jake play hockey, no need for the sell job
 
DeBrusk reminds me a great deal of a not as physical Geoff Courtnall. Somewhat similar situation right now as well, just no Sinden more concerned with saving a few bucks than extending his players.
 
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Really? Look what he did with the returns that they got for Lucic etc. The returns were pretty great but he blew it like he was a 17 year old with a pocket full of found money.
If he had traded Chara it would've devastated the team to a greater degree than the Boychuk trade did just a year prior.
Maybe he would've gotten another first round pick but IMO he would've punted on that one too.
The experienced Don Sweeney of today isn't the same guy who took over the reigns in 2015, and I'm glad he's gotten over his growing pains.
He must've known that Pasta was going to stay here because until he signed him, there was a lot of angst that David would leave without compensation.
That didn't happen thankfully so I doubt that he's going to allow him to walk away without compensation.
Today's Donald Sweeney has really learned from his mistakes IMO and
grown on the job.
Saying that, I'm a bit afraid that I'm 100% wrong, we'll see.


You can't "lose" what you never had.
Sweeney has learned from his mistakes...

But still can be criticized.

Pastrnak took pretty long, and glad he re-signed, but rumors are Sweeney could had him for million less had he gotten it done sooner before he was midway through a 60 goal season. Whether or not that is true is debatable. Debrusk is not remotely that calibre player that we can afford to overpay him just to keep him. Which points to mid-season if we are in the picture, he's most likely not getting moved regardless of if he's re-signed or not.

I just posted Sweeneys trade history in a previous post, more or less, he has 3 players still on the roster that he was able to acquire from trading our players. Otherwise a good chunk of our futures and prospects have been moved for short term help.

Sweeney was handed the keys (2015) less than 2 seasons from a SCF appearance (2013) and 1 season removed from the President's Trophy (2014). Not impossible. Bruins did it before. The Panthers went from President trophy to 8th seed.

The phrase, anything can happen, is a two way street. And the Bruins were on a crazy run last season, coming back to earth could hurt if it doesn't continue.
 
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