Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk X

[Dennis Bonvie]

Which ones do you disagree with?

What??

Trying reading what I was responding to.

 

[BradMarchandismydad]

Says a lot about advanced stats.

That they value guys who were on pace for 35 goals and can play defense?

I do too, and so should you—he had an objectively great season.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Probably coming up on time to trade Pasta, Carlo, Debrusk, and Lindholm. Wouldn't want them to get too old. No negative consequences to doing that - Sweeney should never let an old player stay on this team.

Correct.

Look what happened with Hall. Let him stay until he was 31 and then couldn't get much for him.

 

[NeelyDan]

Cups are to be won only by dudes that can’t drink in the USA

Get with the program you milkbags

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Correct.

Look what happened with Hall. Let him stay until he was 31 and then couldn't get much for him.

I really hope this is sarcasm. But I fear not...

 

[Mainehockey33]

What??

Trying reading what I was responding to.

You responded to a post saying Debrusk had good advanced stats last year, right?

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I really hope this is sarcasm. But I fear not...

Yes, it was sarcasm.

That they value guys who were on pace for 35 goals and can play defense?

I do too, and so should you—he had an objectively great season.

You really think Debrusk was one of the best forwards in the NHL last season?

 

[UncleRico]

Probably coming up on time to trade Pasta, Carlo, Debrusk, and Lindholm. Wouldn't want them to get too old. No negative consequences to doing that - Sweeney should never let an old player stay on this team.

Great response, never a failure on your part to produce immature responses.

Bruins must have a long line of success with the current model they are following of keeping guy in their mid 30s and beyond then I’m assuming. Could you please refresh my mind on how that’s worked out for them?

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

You responded to a post saying Debrusk had good advanced stats last year, right?

Responding to advanced stats guys saying Debrusk was one of the best forwards in the NHL last season.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Responding to advanced stats guys saying Debrusk was one of the best forwards in the NHL last season.

I know, and I was wondering which ones you thought were wrong. He sighted even strength production as one of them, goals per game.He also had a higher corsi than Bergeron and Marchand.

 

[JOKER 192]

I’m sorry if I don’t follow - Krug he let expire. Who else has he done that with? I don’t disagree whatsoever that you can’t let JD walk for nothing if he’s going, but I’m not remembering others of value (save Krug) where he’s let that happen. I guess I’m struggling to understand how that’s his book so far.

Louie Eriksson

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Great response, never a failure on your part to produce immature responses.

Bruins must have a long line of success with the current model they are following of keeping guy in their mid 30s and beyond then I’m assuming. Could you please refresh my mind on how that’s worked out for them?

Making it to Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals with said guys in their mid 30s and beyond is invalid to you, so what other kind of response could I possibly provide?

 

[UncleRico]

Making it to Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals with said guys in their mid 30s and beyond is invalid to you, so what other kind of response could I possibly provide?

Exactly my point. The closest you can come up with is the time they almost did it. This doesn’t go for only the bruins. It’s a time tested failure outside of the one anomaly being the 1971 montreal canadiens. So the bruins are trying to replicate a formula that hasn’t been done in 50+ years during a time when the league was very different

 

[Hookslide]

Yes, it was sarcasm.



You really think Debrusk was one of the best forwards in the NHL last season?

Yes I do ..................you don't .

 

[UncleRico]

Yes I do ..................you don't .

I guess it all depends on your definition of one of the best. Are you talking like top 30 forwards?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Exactly my point. The closest you can come up with is the time they almost did it. This doesn’t go for only the bruins. It’s a time tested failure outside of the one anomaly being the 1971 montreal canadiens. So the bruins are trying to replicate a formula that hasn’t been done in 50+ years during a time when the league was very different

It's an inane argument, with the benefit of hindsight, that the Bruins should have traded Chara, Bergeron, Krejci, and Marchand over a period of a few years, and you should be embarrassed for having the opinion that they're somehow deficient for not choosing your course.

 

[BradMarchandismydad]

Yes, it was sarcasm.



You really think Debrusk was one of the best forwards in the NHL last season?

I think he played the part of a first line forward, so was he a top player, yeah

Two way first line players don’t grow on trees

 

[Mainehockey33]

I guess it all depends on your definition of one of the best. Are you talking like top 30 forwards?

He was a legit top line winger last season. Stats and eye test agree.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

 

[UncleRico]

It's an inane argument, with the benefit of hindsight, that the Bruins should have traded Chara, Bergeron, Krejci, and Marchand over a period of a few years, and you should be embarrassed for having the opinion that they're somehow deficient for not choosing your course.

I’m not sure you understand the definition of the word hindsight.

Hindsight by definition is “the understanding of a situation or event after it has happened or developed”

I’ve had plenty conversations with you over the years IN THE MOMENT, of exactly what’s happened. So, no it is not hindsight as I’ve been calling for it before each season and as it’s been happening because it’s glaringly obvious.

And no I’m not embarrassed about being correct.

 

[UncleRico]

He was a legit top line winger last season. Stats and eye test agree.

There’s 96 top line forwards in the NHL and points wise he was 114th last year, 142nd the season before. Then before that was his really bad year.

I’d certainly keep him around, but he hasn’t been a top line forward stats wise ever in his career technically.

 

[Mainehockey33]

There’s 96 top line forwards in the NHL and points wise he was 114th last year, 142nd the season before. Then before that was his really bad year.

I’d certainly keep him around, but he hasn’t been a top line forward stats wise ever in his career technically.

Sitting out a quarter of the year with a broken leg might have had something to do with that.

 

[KrejciMVP]

You responded to a post saying Debrusk had good advanced stats last year, right?

can be good for stretches but have never considered him near the elite players in the league

 

[UncleRico]

Sitting out a quarter of the year with a broken leg might have had something to do with that.

So do we now credit players for being injured? Last I checked availability is an asset.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I’m not sure you understand the definition of the word hindsight.

Hindsight by definition is “the understanding of a situation or event after it has happened or developed”

I’ve had plenty conversations with you over the years IN THE MOMENT, of exactly what’s happened. So, no it is not hindsight as I’ve been calling for it before each season and as it’s been happening because it’s glaringly obvious.

And no I’m not embarrassed about being correct.

You have one and only one barometer that allows you to say you were correct in all your bloviating - they haven't won a Cup.

Here are some other examples (not as bad as yours) that would also be correct if anyone decided that they were going to run around and bleat them:

"I told you the Bruins should go with six lefthanded defensemen. They'll never win a Cup with a righthanded defenseman"

"I told you they should have traded McAvoy and Pasta. They didn't win a Cup so I'm right"

"I told you they should have kept Claude Julien. They haven't won a Cup so I'm right"

"Told you they should play Derek Forbort on PP1. They haven't won a Cup so I'm right"

"Told you they should fire Grizz into the sun. They haven't won a Cup so I'm right"

Literally any opinion one could have is by definition correct under your standards.

Not giving an ounce of quarter to the fact they made it to Game freaking 7 of a SC Final with the players you say they had to trade because they're too old, much less the fact that one of those players just won back to back Selke awards, is embarrassing.